The Badgers 3 pt shooting

[osullfam]

scares the hell out of me. They shoot from long range.
I was rooting for Vandy as the better match-up for us. I know Vandy came back, playing 2-3, but I suspect it was the change that stymied the Badgers, not the zone itself.
I think they control the outcome. If they're hot we lose. If not, we win.

 

[longislandcuse]

scares the hell out of me. They shoot from long range.
I was rooting for Vandy as the better match-up for us. I know Vandy came back, playing 2-3, but I suspect it was the change that stymied the Badgers, not the zone itself.
I think they control the outcome. If they're hot we lose. If now, we win.

Thats pretty much what anyone fears about anyone in a one and done format. Yea, they shoot a ton of threes but I see no reason why we wont extend our zone and make them beat us with 2's. They play great defense and have 5 guys who just jack up threes but other than that they have nothing to really scare us. They will not zone us so they can play the grittiest m2m they want, go ahead, noone on that team will be able to guard Dion/KJo/Good Scoop if they bring it.

Id rather play a great m2m team than an above average zone team. I just dont think they can handle our athleticism, length and speed. They play in the Big 10 as well, theyve never seen a defense like the one were going to throw at them.

The Wisconsin 3 point shooting is scary but would you rather play a more talented team in Vandy who would zone us, has a dominant big man in Ezeli and 3 guys who shoot above 41% from three in Taylor, Jenkins and Tinsley?

 

[tbonezone]

what the zone needs to do is identify the hot shooter and poke in him the eye ala preston shumpert.problem solved.

 

[ORRange]

scares the hell out of me. They shoot from long range.
I was rooting for Vandy as the better match-up for us. I know Vandy came back, playing 2-3, but I suspect it was the change that stymied the Badgers, not the zone itself.
I think they control the outcome. If they're hot we lose. If now, we win.

They are 263rd in scoring, 210th in rebounding, 268th in assists, and most importantly 230th in the country in field goal percentage. They shoot .362 % from three, which is okay and they don't turn it over (at only 9 TO's a game). Now I understand that some of these statistics are bad because they freeze the ball, but their fg% is awful . What's to be scared of? They jacked up 33 3 point shots yesterday. That's a recipe for failure.

 

[alphaorange]

You could also say that if we shoot well, we'll beat them by 25. Winning games when you DON'T shoot well is the sign of a dangerous team. Any team can win when they shoot well. Another factor that could be in our favor is that long shots lead to long rebounds which often leads to fast breaks, which happens to be our forte.

 

[jdubs30]

We absolutely should extend the zone; I think we'll do way better on the boards vs. them than we did yesterday; I think we get some long rebounds and beat them down court.

And honestly, if we extend the zone and they still hit 15 3s and beat us, hats off to them. But we have to make them make contested 3s.

 

[longislandcuse]

We absolutely should extend the zone; I think we'll do way better on the boards vs. them than we did yesterday; I think we get some long rebounds and beat them down court.

And honestly, if we extend the zone and they still hit 15 3s and beat us, hats off to them. But we have to make them make contested 3s.

As much as I love Fab, Rak is a very good rebounder so I trust him to clean the boards if (and we better) extend the zone.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

There is a very small chance that we will shoot over 42% from the floor against that defense. This will be a dogfight game in the low 60s...last possession kind of game. We don't have any guys outside of Dion, who do well against in-your-shorts coverage.

 

[longislandcuse]

There is a very small chance that we will shoot over 42% from the floor against that defense. This will be a dogfight game in the low 60s...last possession kind of game. We don't have any guys outside of Dion, who do well against in-your-shorts coverage.

I know K-State isnt as good defensively as Wisconsin, since Wisc is a great def. team but K-State prides themselves on a tough gritty m2m defense as well and that didnt end well for them.

 

[BRNCUSEFRVCUSE]

I thought of going out yesterday after we won and see if i could find a wisconsin t shirt cause i was going to be rooting hard for them.

Maybe it was just me but it seemed like every shot they took was from three. Ill take my chances with them. And they went 10 of 33 from three.

So I like our chances

 

[longislandcuse]

I thought of going out yesterday after we won and see if i could find a wisconsin t shirt cause i was going to be rooting hard for them.

Maybe it was just me but it seemed like every shot they took was from three. Ill take my chances with them. And they went 10 of 33 from three.

So I like our chances

They shot threes like they were going out of style. They play like a more talented mid-major who has a good defense.

 

[jdubs30]

Sagarin and KenPom both have us losing.

 

[Toga]

We absolutely should extend the zone; I think we'll do way better on the boards vs. them than we did yesterday; I think we get some long rebounds and beat them down court.

And honestly, if we extend the zone and they still hit 15 3s and beat us, hats off to them. But we have to make them make contested 3s.

Long rebounds - our guards need to be quick to the ball. Don't bleed out to run too quickly as that will lead to open threes for them after a long rebound.

 

[Orangemen]

Sagarin and KenPom both have us losing.

KenPom has admitted all year that his system over rates Wisky.

I wouldn't put too much stock into his system's assessment of the game.

 

[Bornorange]

According to Kenpom we are just lucky.

 

[jdubs30]

Long rebounds - our guards need to be quick to the ball. Don't bleed out to run too quickly as that will lead to open threes for them after a long rebound.

Guards did a really good job yesterday of trying to help on the boards (especially in the 2nd half); I'd imagine it will be even more stressed for Thursday.

 

[Loose Nukes]

I'll say this again, a complex computational equation has no business pretending to be able to determine the outcome of college basketball games. That's not how it works, especially in the tournament.

 

[Knicks411]

This is one game where the Pomeroy system is probably pretty meaningless. It has a hard-on for Wisconsin, and it's hard to get a handle on how we'd rate since we don't have Fab.

Wisconsin is going to try and slow the game down. They are going to take a ton of 3's. They aren't going to go hard to the offensive glass. They have a really really good defense. I like us to win, but I think it's going to come right down to the end.

 

[OrangeBlood]

My biggest worry is about one of their big white guys sitting at the top of the key an draining that mid range jumper all day because they can all shoot. Threes are always a worry in NCAA but KSt. couldn't shoot that mid range jumper and it killed them, Wiscy can.

 

[bnoro]

I'd much rather face Wisconsin over a team like Vandy that has three future NBA players.

Ezeli was a matchup disaster, he would have scored 20 points and got 20 boards.
Jenkins would be the best guard we would face all year, and stroke the absolute lights out from 3.
Jeff Taylor would hit midrange shots all day.

Not to mention they play zone. Vandy would have been a very very tough matchup. Wisconsin gives us a much better chance to win.

 

[jdubs30]

My biggest worry is about one of their big white guys sitting at the top of the key an draining that mid range jumper all day because they can all shoot. Threes are always a worry in NCAA but KSt. couldn't shoot that mid range jumper and it killed them, Wiscy can.

KState also hits the offensive glass way harder than Wisconsin. The Badgers won't get a lot of 2nd chances I don't think; they'll have to shoot a decent percentage and hit definitely more than 12 3s to win. If we can hit 60 we should be ok.

 

[Cusefannotindc]

My biggest concern in facing Wisconsin has always been their very low turnover rate. They have the second lowest turnover rate in the country, turning it over in just 15.1% of possessions. Our two losses came at the hands of the two lowest turnover rate teams we have faced, ND and Cincy both have a turnover rate of 16.2%. On the other hand, in both of those games, ND and Cincy turned the ball over significantly more than their season average. Based on how other teams turnover rate against SU compared to their season average, Wisconsin would be expected to have a turnover rate against SU of 19.2%. Surprisingly, the opposing teams turnover rate has no effect on SU offensive efficiency (points per possession). It does, however, have a big impact on their defensive efficiency, a decrease of 1% in the turnover margin increases the points scored per possession against SU by .012. So moving from SU's opponents' turnover rate for 25.1% to a projected 19.2% turnover rate for Wisconsin would mean the points per possession allowed by SU would increase .069. Over a game at SU's average tempo of 65.5 possessions per game, that is an increase of 4.5 points and 4 points at Wisconsin's 58.8 tempo.

 

[baggerbob]

They have no one on that team who can stop Southerland who i'm starting to feel we should call the freak from getting any shot he wants. This kid is starting to blossom before our eyes and this wisconsin team is exactly the type of team he could explode for 30 against. I've seen all the big 10 teams and none of them have the size and quickness that we do so they might only turn it over 9 times a game but we deflect a lot of passes.

 

[Jasoncuse]

It's not their 3's I worry about. It's their style and defense. If we can't score against them, all they really have to do is take smart shots, knock down some of those 3's and hang onto the ball to be right there. If we are hitting shots, it'll be hard to beat us.

 

[longislandcuse]

It's not their 3's I worry about. It's their style and defense. If we can't score against them, all they really have to do is take smart shots, knock down some of those 3's and hang onto the ball to be right there. If we are hitting shots, it'll be hard to beat us.

Would you rather play a tough m2m or a zone?