The QB's

[HRE Otto IV]

I like everyone wanted TD to succeed. There is not one fan that does not want every player to be a star.
I keep hearing. It’s the line, wr, play calling etc. personally the first time I saw real problems was 2018 against ND. Clark Lee called a great game. Blitzed heavy, changed coverages and confused TD. It seemed like all teams used that game as a blue print to defend TD.
I was really hoping in the off season he would learn to read D better, handle the blitz and go through his progressions . Last year when I saw similar issues as the ND game I like others placed blame on the line and cavenaugh.
Again this season I still did not observe the growth from that initial ND game. Yes the line is suspect and rb was limited but as a four year player I expected more growth.
TD throws a great long ball. It’s the short and intermediate routes that concern me. Also rolling out while giving time to his receivers. These are things I would have liked to seen improvement.
I know a lot of people want TD to come back and feel he will excel with a stronger line. I am not sure that is guaranteed after seeing his development over the last couple of years.
I know the qb room is limited but I am looking forward to seeing Morgan and possibly markowitz over the next three games. I expect mistakes. They are true freshman not four year players but if they continue to improve with every game it gives me hope for the future.

The last three seasons we had four QBs combine to be sacked once for every 14.02 pass attempts. The worst of which was a true freshman at 9.25. The other three were generally the same (13.6, 14.125, 14.84). Meanwhile we have that fifth QB sacked once every 6.93 attempts. When one thing is not like the other, it is hard to think that the one thing is not part of the issue on O.

 

[PhatOrange]

There are maybe a dozen good OLs in the nation and they all have QBs just as good as TD.

by good I meant like the top half of college. say top 40. A line that might give up 20 sacks on the season. Instead of good, maybe I should've said functional. TD would shred us if given some time in the pocket. I think our line now is actually becoming functional and we have RB threat.. He'll be fine once it's functional. Just don't ask him to adlib, that's not his game and he's not built for it.

 

[money3189]

by good I meant like the top half of college. say top 40. A line that might give up 20 sacks on the season. TD would shred us if given some time in the pocket. I think our line now is actually becoming functional and we have RB threat.. He'll be fine once it's functional. Just don't ask him to adlib, that's not his game and he's not built for it.

I think most of us know he will be better with a improved line. We just dont know how much better. Is it enough to not pursue a transfer that can compete for the position and possibly be better? Dino can't afford to be in the same situation next year. TD can get banged up again. He missed games the last two years. I truly believe TD needs competition to reach his full potentional. It can be a defining moment in his career. Him getting pushed and having to improve his weakness makes him better and the team more competitive.

 

[AngryOtto]

The last three seasons we had four QBs combine to be sacked once for every 14.02 pass attempts. The worst of which was a true freshman at 9.25. The other three were generally the same (13.6, 14.125, 14.84). Meanwhile we have that fifth QB sacked once every 6.93 attempts. When one thing is not like the other, it is hard to think that the one thing is not part of the issue on O.

I do not disagree the OLine has been an issue. I just do not think it is the only issue. My point was more to TD development. I do think we need development also on the oline.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

by good I meant like the top half of college. say top 40. A line that might give up 20 sacks on the season. Instead of good, maybe I should've said functional. TD would shred us if given some time in the pocket. I think our line now is actually becoming functional and we have RB threat.. He'll be fine once it's functional. Just don't ask him to adlib, that's not his game and he's not built for it.

He certainly would be better but saying that you couldn't want to play him IMO is a bit much. He is absolutely a better thrower of the football than Pickett or Jurkovec but IMO he is not a better QB than either. Those aren't guys I want to not play against. I said this before, I think Tommy's ceiling is having a similar career as Tom Savage (another guy I don't mind playing against). I can see Tommy having it click in his last year in college and then having a nice little stint in the NFL. That is assuming he puts it all together which still may never happen.

 

[BrooklynCuse]

Tommy would shred Cisco, Trill and Iffy? Or do you mean the true freshmen playing?

Why do ppl think Tommy is the best player on the team and could outplay everyone?

 

[OmahaCuse]

I think most of us know he will be better with a improved line. We just dont know how much better. Is it enough to not pursue a transfer that can compete for the position and possibly be better? Dino can't afford to be in the same situation next year. TD can get banged up again. He missed games the last two years. I truly believe TD needs competition to reach his full potentional. It can be a defining moment in his career. Him getting pushed and having to improve his weakness makes him better and the team more competitive.

Every team should have 2/3 really good QBs in college as injuries happen and competition, learning are important. Easier said than done.

 

[kcsu]

I think most of us know he will be better with a improved line. We just dont know how much better. Is it enough to not pursue a transfer that can compete for the position and possibly be better? Dino can't afford to be in the same situation next year. TD can get banged up again. He missed games the last two years. I truly believe TD needs competition to reach his full potentional. It can be a defining moment in his career. Him getting pushed and having to improve his weakness makes him better and the team more competitive.

Of course Dino should try and upgrade the QB position just like any other position. Its his job to improve the team. If Tommy stays i believe he will have the tools to be successful. If he leaves i hope he does well.
As to his Dad posting im all for it. He is free to share his opinions and his emotions. If he decides to criticize Tommy's teammates im sure he fully understands what he is doing and the inherent consequences.

 

[money3189]

Of course Dino should try and upgrade the QB position just like any other position. Its his job to improve the team. If Tommy stays i believe he will have the tools to be successful. If he leaves i hope he does well.
As to his Dad posting im all for it. He is free to share his opinions and his emotions. If he decides to criticize Tommy's teammates im sure he fully understands what he is doing and the inherent consequences.

yes , he is free to share his opinions and emotions just like the other members do. I know quite of few posters here that are tired of his shade remarks. The responses are going to get more and more nasty. We dont need that type of climate in this forum. It gets bad when people are just taking personal shots at each other.

 

[kcsu]

yes , he is free to share his opinions and emotions just like the other members do. I know quite of few posters here that are tired of his shade remarks. The responses are going to get more and more nasty. We dont need that type of climate in this forum. It gets bad when people are just taking personal shots at each other.

Agreed. I would hope TDs Dad understands that.

 

[SUFan44]

Of course Dino should try and upgrade the QB position just like any other position. Its his job to improve the team. If Tommy stays i believe he will have the tools to be successful. If he leaves i hope he does well.
As to his Dad posting im all for it. He is free to share his opinions and his emotions. If he decides to criticize Tommy's teammates im sure he fully understands what he is doing and the inherent consequences.

Not sure the last part but he is certainly free to be here.