The rise and fall of Syracuse's Northeast recruiting base

[PhatOrange]

Lots of NY kids that aren't the next Schwedes (sp) or Woodcock or Gedney on this list.

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all those New York kids have D1 athletic ability and a bunch have D1 football size so if they played football year-round they could probably be D1 football players.

I think that’s where NY lax does pull kids away from football. D1 type kids are playing lacrosse year-round and that’s why they’re playing D1 lacrosse. Football is not a year-round sport in New York the way it is in the south.

At the end of the day it boils down to where the kids commitment and dedication lies. Grayson high school in Georgia has a $200,000 weight room just for the football team, those kids are working out with paid trainers year-round to play football. They produced 15 D1 kids in one season a few years back.

We have 60 kids at the high school level playing fall lacrosse right now in the middle of football season. They also play in the winter and then their spring seasons and then full go in the summer. entirely different animal than football New York.

 

[elimunelson]

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We need to get down to business and figure out how we build a line that is 75% of what BC is doing there for the past 20 odd years

 

[GeauxSU]

Another Mass kid to Georgia(Lewis Cine), and a RI kid(Xavier Truss), as well. NH kid to UCLA( Chip Kelly connection, though) Connecticut (Will Levis) to Penn State.

We should have been in the Conversation for all of them. Offerred, but we didn't even seem like a consideration. (Other than, Maybe Levis) We landed Iffy from Mass. Lemieux from Mass. Need to win far more of these.

We have 4 kids from Mass on the Roster. They may all be PWOs?Reirdon, McPhail, O'Conner Darton.

One guy in Mass has coached most of them on Elite Teams. (He ran Shy Cullen's pro day) While Bob Kraft has flown in on helicopter to meet him, and support his efforts? Last I knew, our staff has never spoken with him. Rutgers? Yeah. They visited him this summer.

Lewis was an Everett kid, transferred to Trinity Christian in TX to play for Coach Prime and committed to UGA out of there, and not for nothing, but possibly one of the best tight ends in CFB this year in Isaiah Likely (Coastal) is an Everett kid too. The town is a factory, hard-working MFs. As for our Mass players right now, 3/5 rostered came from ISL/prep schools. 2 public kids, one from Hingham and Terry is out of Springfield Central (another factory, played IMG on nat'l tv the other week)

 

[anomander]

The thing I don’t like about Dino’s recruiting is that he doesn’t seem to have a philosophy. We seem to recruit different regions of the country on different years. I think this article shows you the most that relationships matter. That’s why I firmly believe you have to plan to recruit a certain area and stick to it. It also hurts with the constant changes to the staff. Every time you bring in a new position coach there goes time the prior coach put into certain relationships. I loved Marrone’s strategy. I’ve said it before but I think his staff was under rated as recruiters and most importantly great at identifying and developing talent. With the emergence of new recruiting territories close to us I feel we should target the following areas for most of our kids.

NYS
NJ
NE - lots of solid prep schools
Canada - CA has pumped out a ton of highly rated recruits the last 5 years. Montreal/Toronto
PA
Ohio
DMV
Fla

if you’re telling me you can’t find 80 solid players from those areas and another 5 or so from NC/SC/Mich then there is a problem. I don’t get all these offers from Arizona, California, Texas, Mississippi and Hawaii. These kids are the first to leave if they don’t play right away.

 

[Evan Miller]

The thing I don’t like about Dino’s recruiting is that he doesn’t seem to have a philosophy. We seem to recruit different regions of the country on different years. I think this article shows you the most that relationships matter. That’s why I firmly believe you have to plan to recruit a certain area and stick to it. It also hurts with the constant changes to the staff. Every time you bring in a new position coach there goes time the prior coach put into certain relationships. I loved Marrone’s strategy. I’ve said it before but I think his staff was under rated as recruiters and most importantly great at identifying and developing talent. With the emergence of new recruiting territories close to us I feel we should target the following areas for most of our kids.

NYS
NJ
NE - lots of solid prep schools
Canada - CA has pumped out a ton of highly rated recruits the last 5 years. Montreal/Toronto
PA
Ohio
DMV
Fla

if you’re telling me you can’t find 80 solid players from those areas and another 5 or so from NC/SC/Mich then there is a problem. I don’t get all these offers from Arizona, California, Texas, Mississippi and Hawaii. These kids are the first to leave if they don’t play right away.

You have to judge versus your main peers in ACC. Pitt and BC. Both are vastly outrecruiting Syracuse FB. Narduzzi has the PA territory and they recruit well. Generally top half of ACC every single year Hafley had BC #35 nationally last year and in Top 25 nationally so far this year. They are recruiting very well.

Unless you can compete with those recruiting numbers you are always fighting a losing battle. Right now, Syracuse is getting beaten by their peers.

You can only "coach up" so much. Recruiting numbers are indicative of won/loss record.