The Talk

[jr4750]

I’d be very upset if anyone has checked out at this point. We still have everything to play for. However unlikely it may be, we still have a chance. I want players that stay with it until the season is over.

 

[AlaskaSU]

with his complete lack of caring / effort on defense , he needs to go on GP alone. its truly gross and I've never seen anyone that laced up em for this university consistently care / try less on that end of the court . We've had plenty of bad defenders, but nobody that put forth this degree of WGAF.

He initially hangs close to the person he is defending but is too slow to stay in front. Gets beat every time and his frustration is obvious as he starts to foul on successive plays.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Add in Carey, Patterson and Hima.

McLeod says hello.

 

[Doc5120]

It's not that good for a three and no d

I don't disagree with that. I was taking your statement in a vacuum that 75% wasn't good, when by itself, it is. Certainly isn't good enough to have him on the court as much as we do, given his other shortcomings.

 

[phil77]

Players we need to replace next year ---

Mintz (NBA)
Cuffe
Bell
Taylor
McLeod
Benny
Patterson
Carey
Copeland
Hima

These players are either too one-dimensional to be a big-time P5 starter or too inconsistent. I understand that we will not turn the roster over that much but that is who needs to be replaced...

If they want to stay they need to be recruited over and be open to an off-the-bench role otherwise peace.

Foundation for next year

JJ - Westry - Brown - Freeman - Moore

People thought I was crazy lol Cuffe and Bell will stay. Maybe McLeod and Patterson. This was my guess 3 months ago. lol

 

[Newhouser]

People thought I was crazy lol Cuffe and Bell will stay. Maybe McLeod and Patterson. This was my guess 3 months ago. lol

Still think Judah is NBA bound?

 

[phil77]

Still think Judah is NBA bound?

I think he will declare for the draft and put his name in the portal at the same time.

 

[kingtidge]

People thought I was crazy lol Cuffe and Bell will stay. Maybe McLeod and Patterson. This was my guess 3 months ago. lol

10 demerits for self-bumping.

 

[721Comstock]

10 demerits for self-bumping.

HE WILL GO BLIND IF HE KEEPS DOING THAT!!!!!!!

 

[Ozone!]

 

[tbonezone]

Still think Judah is NBA bound?

he'll be riding a bus to his next gig.

 

[richard levy]

Portal wish list
1) 6'10, 240 lbs. Not necessarily to start, but in a rotation with Brown/Freeman. Carolina ate us up down low. That's not most teams, but there will be others
2) 6'6, 210. Wing with mid to upper 30% 3pt accuracy. Moore has a shot, Freeman range has been expanding. would give us at least 2-3 wing shooters on the court at all times. Bell would be great off the bench, he either is on or he isn't, and i hate his D. Taylor should have gone to Va, where they set picks and use more motion that matters
3) Hima physically unable to play. Carey, great warmup dunk skills, but so what. One or both should be gone depending of # scholarships

#1, check

 

[orangenauburn]

#1, check

#2 Roddy Gayle almost fits except he is 6'4 not 6'6

 

[althea]

#1, check

#3, check

 

[Nicknack]

I don't see #2 happening. If our plans is for Bell to come off the bench (which I actually like), he's likely holding hands with Brown on his way out.

 

[Cusefan0307]

#2 Roddy Gayle almost fits except he is 6'4 not 6'6

Shoots 28% from 3.

 

[Nicknack]

Shoots 28% from 3.

 

[Conrad13]

Shoots 28% from 3.

Everyone who's been watching Syracuse basketball the past few years: "That's pretty normal, right?"

 

[GoCuse14]

Shoots 28% from 3.

Wasn’t it 42 year prior?

 

[orangenauburn]

Shoots 28% from 3.

Last year.

Wasn't he almost 40% the year before?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Last year.

Wasn't he almost 40% the year before?

Where does he help us? He turns the ball over at a higher rate than Girard did when he was the PG.

He is a worse shooting better defensive version of JJ. If we didn’t have Cuffe, Moore and Westry I’d take him, but he’s redundant with our current roster.

 

[orangecuse]

Players we need to replace next year ---

Mintz (NBA)
Cuffe
Bell
Taylor
McLeod
Benny
Patterson
Carey
Copeland
Hima

These players are either too one-dimensional to be a big-time P5 starter or too inconsistent. I understand that we will not turn the roster over that much but that is who needs to be replaced...

If they want to stay they need to be recruited over and be open to an off-the-bench role otherwise peace.

Foundation for next year

JJ - Westry - Brown - Freeman - Moore

So... In hindsight, wholesale slaughter should have started at 8 guys leaving. Or sure feels like wholesale slaughter, especially when 8 guys leave and only 5 guys chime in to replace them. The roster is still a work in progress, but the chance to enter the transfer portal is over.

70% of us thought it would be only 2-4 players leaving, including Williams who already left the team. Boy were we wrong!

The roster carnage leaked out slowly, with months of transfers, so it really didn't seem that bad. Few of the transfers really hurt.

But we definitely turned over most of the team, with only 5 of 13 scholarship players staying from last season's opening roster.

Did we get better?

NOT RETURNING
Benny Williams	F	6-9	208	Sr.	Portal to UCF
Justin Taylor	G/F	6-6	200	Jr.	Portal to JMU
Quadir Copeland	G	6-6	200	Jr.	Portal (3/18)
Peter Carey	C	6-11	205	R-So.	Portal to Siena
Maliq Brown	F	6-9	222	Jr.	Portal to Duke
Mounir Hima	C	6-11	230	Sr.	Grad Portal (4/10)
William Patterson	C	7-2	220	R-Fr.	Portal (4/25)
Judah Mintz	G	6-3	165	Jr.	NBA Draft (4/11)

Well, it wasn't hindsight for Phil77. He was quite right, regardless of all the heat he knew would undoubtedly/expectedly come his way. Other than Bell for Brown, he was pretty spot on.

Unfortunately, at least how it has played out to date, it appears Red hasn't had nearly the success needed in the portal to have much of a change relative to results/standing come next year.

 

[zilo]

Well, it wasn't hindsight for Phil77. He was quite right, regardless of all the heat he knew would undoubtedly/expectedly come his way. Other than Bell for Brown, he was pretty spot on.

Unfortunately, at least how it has played out to date, it appears Red hasn't had nearly the success needed in the portal to have much of a change relative to results/standing come next year.

I agree. As the team stands now, I would expect 17-20 wins next year.