This Team is a Mystery

[orange2win]

Stats don't lie. This team is one game away from the SU all-time win record. YET...

• No 100 point games
• No 30 point scorer
• Ave. Win Point Spread 13.6 ppg (little better than 37 year average)
• Max RBs in a game 12 (unimpressive)
• 6 double/doubles (less than half of last year thru 20 games)

No SU appearance in the National Top 40 for Pts, RBs, Bks, FG%, FT% (Individual or Team)

So how are we doing it?

 

[longislandcuse]

Ridiculous balance plus one of the best defenses in the country, added to getting everyone's best shot.

 

[CorduroyG]

Biggest reason is tyler ennis. If we had any other pg in the country we'd have a couple losses. At least.

 

[Cusefan0307]

84-13 the last three years.

 

[longtimefan]

Stats don't lie. This team is one game away from the SU all-time win record. YET...

• No 100 point games
• No 30 point scorer
• Ave. Win Point Spread 13.6 ppg (little better than 37 year average)
• Max RBs in a game 12 (unimpressive)
• 6 double/doubles (less than half of last year thru 20 games)

No SU appearance in the National Top 40 for Pts, RBs, Bks, FG%, FT% (Individual or Team)

So how are we doing it?

They rebound well, and turn over the opposition a lot. Extra possessions.

And, Pomeroy has SU with the #6 adjusted offense in the country, and the #11 adjusted defense. So there is that.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

It's pretty simple actually. At the end of every game they have more points than their opponent. It's a fool proof strategy.

 

[jekelish]

It's pretty simple actually. At the end of every game they have more points than their opponent. It's a fool proof strategy.

 

[moqui]

Stats don't lie. This team is one game away from the SU all-time win record. YET...

• No 100 point games
• No 30 point scorer
• Ave. Win Point Spread 13.6 ppg (little better than 37 year average)
• Max RBs in a game 12 (unimpressive)
• 6 double/doubles (less than half of last year thru 20 games)

No SU appearance in the National Top 40 for Pts, RBs, Bks, FG%, FT% (Individual or Team)

So how are we doing it?

you are right, stats don't lie, but you can't rely on raw totals on a team that is deliberately choking down the tempo

• offensive efficiency is the highest in the 12 year database at Pomeroy
• offensive turnover percentage is the lowest in 12 years
• offensive rebounding rate is 2nd highest
• Free throw rate is the highest, and FTpct is the 4th highest - getting to the line and knocking them down
• On defense, turnover percentage is 2nd highest
• and the defensive rebounding percentage - the traditional Achilles heel - is the best its ever been
• all this while the tempo is the slowest in the 12 year database and probably in the entire Boeheim era

and then, of course, there is the sublime talent of Tyler Ennis orchestrating the whole thing

 

[iommi]

you are right, stats don't lie, but you can't rely on raw totals on a team that is deliberately choking down the tempo

• offensive efficiency is the highest in the 12 year database at Pomeroy
• offensive turnover percentage is the lowest in 12 years
• offensive rebounding rate is 2nd highest
• Free throw rate is the highest, and FTpct is the 4th highest - getting to the line and knocking them down
• On defense, turnover percentage is 2nd highest
• and the defensive rebounding percentage - the traditional Achilles heel - is the best its ever been
• all this while the tempo is the slowest in the 12 year database and probably in the entire Boeheim era

and then, of course, there is the sublime talent of Tyler Ennis orchestrating the whole thing

FTpct 4th highest? Huh? Please explain.

 

[Coach Orange]

Keep in mind that there are several aspects of basketball for which players are not awarded numbers, and yet they affect the outcome of games. Making positive versions of these plays greatly enhances the odds for victory.

 

[LennX6]

and the defensive rebounding percentage - the traditional Achilles heel - is the best its ever been

The best? Like ever?

 

[LennX6]

Keep in mind that there are several aspects of basketball for which players are not awarded numbers, and yet they affect the outcome of games. Making positive versions of these plays greatly enhances the odds for victory.

And game situations affect scores. 3 offensive rebounds on a particular possession takes 1-2 minutes off the clock with no corresponding scoring. Seems like we have seen 3 or more offensive rebounds in one play, several times , a lot more than normal.

 

[moqui]

FTpct 4th highest? Huh? Please explain.

the current squad is hitting 69.1% from the line, the school's 4th best total since 2003:

2007 - 70%
2012 - 69.8%
2003 - 69.4%
2014 - 69.1%

so, relative to other SU squads (not to other teams nationally), this one is hitting pretty well from the FT line.

 

[Cusefannotindc]

Stats don't lie. This team is one game away from the SU all-time win record. YET...

• No 100 point games
• No 30 point scorer
• Ave. Win Point Spread 13.6 ppg (little better than 37 year average)
• Max RBs in a game 12 (unimpressive)
• 6 double/doubles (less than half of last year thru 20 games)

No SU appearance in the National Top 40 for Pts, RBs, Bks, FG%, FT% (Individual or Team)

So how are we doing it?

Some of this can be explained by this SU team playing at a slower pace than past SU teams and more so in a year where the rules has sped pace up.

 

[iommi]

Free throw rate = Free Throw Attempts divided by Field Goal Attempts

I understand that...but then he said 4th highestPCT, which normally means % of FT makes.

 

[Cusefannotindc]

Free throw rate = Free Throw Attempts divided by Field Goal Attempts

I understand that...but then he said 4th highestPCT, which normally means % of FT makes.

Yea, sorry, I misread your post.

 

[iommi]

the current squad is hitting 69.1% from the line, the school's 4th best total since 2003:

2007 - 70%
2012 - 69.8%
2003 - 69.4%
2014 - 69.1%

so, relative to other SU squads (not to other teams nationally), this one is hitting pretty well from the FT line.

Ah, I see...but our % is skewed due to the ridiculously high percentage the team shot in Maui with those very soft rims even JB has talked about.

Our team is not a good FT shooting team and we need to be better than we've been, especially tomorrow.

 

[ImperialOrange]

you are right, stats don't lie, but you can't rely on raw totals on a team that is deliberately choking down the tempo

• offensive efficiency is the highest in the 12 year database at Pomeroy
• offensive turnover percentage is the lowest in 12 years
• offensive rebounding rate is 2nd highest
• Free throw rate is the highest, and FTpct is the 4th highest - getting to the line and knocking them down
• On defense, turnover percentage is 2nd highest
• and the defensive rebounding percentage - the traditional Achilles heel - is the best its ever been
• all this while the tempo is the slowest in the 12 year database and probably in the entire Boeheim era

and then, of course, there is the sublime talent of Tyler Ennis orchestrating the whole thing

Same reason the computers love Wisconsin every year.

 

[pearl31]

Stats don't lie. This team is one game away from the SU all-time win record. YET...

• No 100 point games
• No 30 point scorer
• Ave. Win Point Spread 13.6 ppg (little better than 37 year average)
• Max RBs in a game 12 (unimpressive)
• 6 double/doubles (less than half of last year thru 20 games)

No SU appearance in the National Top 40 for Pts, RBs, Bks, FG%, FT% (Individual or Team)

So how are we doing it?

No disrespect, but is this post meant as a spoof?
Are you actually saying that a college team is not legit if it hasn't scored 100 in a game or doesn't have a player that's scored 30 in a game?
And, who cares if no single player has no more than 12 rebounds in a game? Look at the team rebounding numbers for the year.
Look at the defensive numbers.
Look at the Ast/TO ratio of Ennis.
Look at the number of players averaging double figures.

 

[RF2044]

Keep in mind that there are several aspects of basketball for which players are not awarded numbers, and yet they affect the outcome of games. Making positive versions of these plays greatly enhances the odds for victory.

But... but... stats...

MONEYBALL!!!!!



PS--thank you for making this post.

 

[SWC75]

Possession is 9/10th of the law and a big chunk of basketball, as well. T his is our best rebounding team in years and our PG takes care of the ball. And we play great defense.

 

[Opus]

This is a job for...

 

[SWC75]

Maybe he could figure it out or...

 

[SWC75]

Maybe this guy...

 

[CaptainJ]

This is a job for...

Weird, about 20 minutes ago I was thinking of that and the possible allusions. Hey, have you been peeking in my window? I sure as (bleep) don't have a webcam, even before I knew the NSA could turn them on(like your phones) without you knowing.