Thought Kyle was gonna miss both FTs

[Tony DeFranco]

He should look to score a little more when close to the rim - looks like he is capable of baby hooks

 

[Charbroil]

Given his issues at the FT line, it took some stones to hit the second after missing the first. When he missed the first I was 90% sure he was missing the second, glad I was wrong. Good for him.

 

[MGraves5]

I was thinking of Jeremy McNeil in the Dome, 2003, Vs Pitt. Still can't believe McNeil made both.

 

[texascpa]

He has one of the weirdest ft hitches I've ever seen.

 

[NionDion]

He has one of the weirdest ft hitches I've ever seen.

Starling has a similar hitch. They start bringing the ball up from their right hip, then jerk and load the ball on their left shoulder before trying to twist their arm and wrist back to the right as they release. It’s like they’ve fallen asleep on a long drive and are starting to drift into another lane before swerving back straight

 

[Cusefan0307]

I was thinking of Jeremy McNeil in the Dome, 2003, Vs Pitt. Still can't believe McNeil made both.

Same. Just posted in another thread. Same or similar final score too.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Starling has a similar hitch. They start bringing the ball up from their right hip, then jerk and load the ball on their left shoulder before trying to twist their arm and wrist back to the right as they release. It’s like they’ve fallen asleep on a long drive and are starting to drift into another lane before swerving back straight

They shouldn’t bring it up so far. Start in front of your face and just follow through. Too much movement.

 

[Cuseregular]

Starling has a similar hitch. They start bringing the ball up from their right hip, then jerk and load the ball on their left shoulder before trying to twist their arm and wrist back to the right as they release. It’s like they’ve fallen asleep on a long drive and are starting to drift into another lane before swerving back straight

starling seems to have mostly lost the hitch in his FT shot, thankfully. All part of his maturation, growing and taking control of the reins of this team. Its impressive really and all crucial for the teams long term success for them to see this leadership from him to overcome it and become "the" leader, as he did down the stretch which is essentially what he said post game.

Man the rest of the season should be fun fun fun. When is the last time we could say this?!

 

[NionDion]

They shouldn’t bring it up so far. Start in front of your face and just follow through. Too much movement.

It’s picking nits, but if you load the ball in front of your face, you can’t harness the power from your legs and your shot is all arms, which makes it harder to control (look at Mitchell Robinson on the Knicks).

Good shooters almost always have some sort of dip. You want the path of the ball to more or less mirror the path of your torso as you bend your legs and extend upward.

Kyle and Starling both look fine on their gather, but then it gets wonky as they transition into the load phase of their shot, which gives them a messed up set point and theyre fighting the ball by the time they release.

 

[Fly Rodder]

starling seems to have lost the hitch in his FT shot, thankfully.

No he hasn't. It's not there in his jumper, but it's still very evident in his free throws.

 

[Cuseregular]

No he hasn't. It's not there in his jumper, but it's still very evident in his free throws.

the last ones he shot thought I saw it gone, at least he's not throwing airballs!

 

[OburgOrange]

My question is, why did Red run that play for him? Wouldn’t it have been prudent to go to someone who has a better chance to sink a free throw? We all knew whoever had the ball for that play was going to get fouled.

 

[hoopsupstate]

It’s picking nits, but if you load the ball in front of your face, you can’t harness the power from your legs and your shot is all arms, which makes it harder to control (look at Mitchell Robinson on the Knicks).

Good shooters almost always have some sort of dip. You want the path of the ball to more or less mirror the path of your torso as you bend your legs and extend upward.

Kyle and Starling both look fine on their gather, but then it gets wonky as they transition into the load phase of their shot, which gives them a messed up set point and theyre fighting the ball by the time they release.

The bending of the knees is absolutely necessary but the ball needs to be up higher when they start their motion. Bounce, bend and follow through. Earlier Kiyan and George were spinning the ball before they shoot. Not necessary.

 

[690West]

My question is, why did Red run that play for him? Wouldn’t it have been prudent to go to someone who has a better chance to sink a free throw? We all knew whoever had the ball for that play was going to get fouled.

Yup. He made a free throw, we survived the buzzer beater and won so it’ll get overlooked. But there is no circumstance ever where Kyle should’ve had the ball in his hands there being a 41% free throw shooter It just can’t happen. But we survived. Amen.

 

[hoopsupstate]

My question is, why did Red run that play for him? Wouldn’t it have been prudent to go to someone who has a better chance to sink a free throw? We all knew whoever had the ball for that play was going to get fouled.

It was all part of the action. They reacted to what the defense did. He was open and got the ball. Similiar to the end of Houston but the foul was called this time

 

[SkyTopBus44]

Kyle should shoot free throws like Rick Barry

 

[AZOrange]

JJ hitch comes and goes. Kyle hitch was different this week. Holding the ball higher and elbow further in which is good but then this weird push through the middle. His first one he made in 1H I thought he had 1 hand on oppo sides of ball. Looked like a chest passs shot. Never seen that

 

[OrangeXtreme]

JJ hitch comes and goes. Kyle hitch was different this week. Holding the ball higher and elbow further in which is good but then this weird push through the middle. His first one he made in 1H I thought he had 1 hand on oppo sides of ball. Looked like a chest passs shot. Never seen that

When JJ is forced to jack up a shot at the end of a shot clock, his shot looks fine.

When he has time to think about it, he hitches.

 

[AZOrange]

When JJ is forced to jack up a shot at the end of a shot clock, his shot looks fine.

When he has time to think about it, he hitches.

It’s that and not jumping. You see it in youth a lot. Jump shots have a rhythm that FTs do not and the players sometimes “recreate” it with a hitch/heave

 

[Newhouser]

They both have an odd flick to their wrist when they release the ball.

 

[bballbeadle]

HaveStarling has a similar hitch. They start bringing the ball up from their right hip, then jerk and load the ball on their left shoulder before trying to twist their arm and wrist back to the right as they release. It’s like they’ve fallen asleep on a long drive and are starting to drift into another lane before swerving back straight

WHY can’t they be coached to have better form? Is that happening but not working? Do they shoot ok in practice but not in games? What is happening?

 

[Owens guy]

I somehow knew that Kyle would make 1 of his 2 free throws.

Unfortunately I just expect that every Syracuse player is making 1 of 2 from the line this year.

 

[CuseFan]

I described this to my wife as the Charles Barkley golf swing for shooting free throws. it's just impossible to be consistent, with that outside in movement that creates a spin and swirl. Its just an awful process. Setup looks fine to start, but goes awry as he starts his shot.

Hard to believe some coach in middle school, high school, or college has not found a way to work with him to improve this.

Nonetheless, so glad he made 1 of the final 2 !

 

[OCESIP]

WHY can’t they be coached to have better form? Is that happening but not working? Do they shoot ok in practice but not in games? What is happening?

I agree. You don't let them off the free throw line in practice until there's a technique that looks reasonable. They don't have to even make a shot, just use a normal (semi normal at least) shooting technique and repeat it time after time. It's muscle memory. You can do it with eyes closed.

Kyle has to feel like the weight of the world is on his shoulders when he's on the line. Feel sorry for him, but it can be corrected.

 

[CardiacCuse]

I agree. You don't let them off the free throw line in practice until there's a technique that looks reasonable. They don't have to even make a shot, just use a normal (semi normal at least) shooting technique and repeat it time after time. It's muscle memory. You can do it with eyes closed.

Kyle has to feel like the weight of the world is on his shoulders when he's on the line. Feel sorry for him, but it can be corrected.

funn thing is he 65% FT as a freshman apparently. he has enough coordination to be able to shoot well imo...but somehow i usppose has built up some funky muscle memory that must be hard to break