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Not that hard for two ball-handlers to play together. Probe with the pick and roll and if it's not there swing it around the horn to the other guy. That's gonna be our offense
 
You said they have to be on the floor together. I said they both have to start, but after that you rotate Cuffe, and JJ is the first one out, most times. Judah is the star of this team, not JJ.
I think you're misunderstanding what I mean. They will have to share some time on the floor together because they will be both be getting around 30 min per game. That means there will be unavoidable overlap of floor time. During that overlap they will have to figure out how to complement one another. Beyond that, one should always be on the floor when the other is out to facilitate the offense. We should never have both out of the game at the same time. I was not saying we needed both on the floor at the same time in order for them to be successful.
 
Not that hard for two ball-handlers to play together. Probe with the pick and roll and if it's not there swing it around the horn to the other guy. That's gonna be our offense
I sure hope not.
 
I mean you wanna bring Starling off the bench so I don't know if you have the best take on our offense
I'm willing to give him some rope/time, but I'm not sure we are getting the JJ everybody thinks we are getting. Based on last year he was a player that needed to make improvements to be better than Girard. If he's limited from the perimeter it's going to be extremely difficult.
 
I agree with this, but I think if he or Judah make any bad mistakes early, we could see Cuffe at the first TV timeout. And I'm comfortable with that. I like Cuffe's game. I think he will keep the other guys on their toes.
I'm thinking about Starling and Mintz playing fewer minutes together as well. And one of them coming out at the 16 minute time out allows minutes for one of the high ceiling backup guards.

If Mintz and Starling both play 30 minutes, it can be worked out that they only play 10-12 minutes together pretty easily.

Especially if shooting becomes a concern, having Taylor, Bell and Williams on the court with a big and either Starling or Mintz can give the ball handler lots of options.

Having two ball dominant guards playing together could be a problem, but I think it's premature to worry about it.

This is a lot of hand wringing over two blowout wins over lesser competition when we were missing core players both games.

Mintz and Starling have had a summer and one game to play together. They'll figure it out, or Red will.
 
I mean you wanna bring Starling off the bench so I don't know if you have the best take on our offense
My main point is that our two best players have very similar skill sets and we’ll have to figure out how to prevent exactly what you’re saying above from being our offense. We will be so completely predictable that it will be incredibly ineffective.

To be the kind of team we all want us to be, I think we are going to need to balance both JJ and Judah with outside shooting to optimize our offense. I believe we really need two outside shooting threats on the court at the same time to be at our best. If (and that’s a big if) Benny develops into an excellent outside shooter and Bell or Taylor can hit reliably, then I agree that we can play them both JJ and Judah together. Or if one of the two of JJ or Judah (or both!) can develop a shot, that would be incredible. If we only have one outside shooter on the court and neither of these two will take a shot, IMO we won’t have a very good offense.

Let me also add that I hope I’m wrong! If we have Judah and JJ on the floor together without either of them taking an outside shot and still have a great offense, I will gladly fall on my sword.
 
You don’t think Judah is going to be consistent enough? What?
Calls for benching Judah freaking Mintz after one exhibition game where he scored 20 points!

Now we know it's the Silly Season!

Wait till we get blown out three times in Maui before we look for the guillotine, guys!
 
You don’t think Judah is going to be consistent enough? What?
He was wildly inconsistent with his play last season. I hope he’s matured and he’s learned from last season but would it be that shocking if he wasn’t?
 
Not that hard for two ball-handlers to play together. Probe with the pick and roll and if it's not there swing it around the horn to the other guy. That's gonna be our offense
Double screen high, with either Starling or Mintz with the ball on the opposite wing. Bell/Williams/Taylor in the corner opposite the ball.

The ball handler either has isolation on that side, or the Starling/Mintz without the ball comes off the double screen and gets the ball with his defender fighting through a mob... The guy now is on the middle of the court with the defense askew and a head of steam. He can drive, shoot or pass. Nothing but good options with a great player on the ball.

Whoever is beating his defender most consistently gets the initial ISO, after that the better defender gets to fight screens.

Basketball offense is so simple when you have Mintz and Starling on the court together.
 
Transition buckets go away against our schedule? Another crystal ball prediction from the hip. The takes after just 2 exhibition games are wild lol. Everyone should slow down on projecting failures as seems to be the current hot take early season. Give it some time.
People are crazy with these H0T Takes after two exhibition games. I wonder how Sherman and MCW ever drove into the lane all those years with their defenders sagging off them because of their bad to mediocre 3-point shooting. Lol. I’m happy to finally have some talented guys who can get into the lane on the team. That used to be our bread and butter.
 
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People are crazy with these H0T Takes after two exhibition games. I wonder how Sherman and MCW ever drove into the lane all those years with their defenders sagging off them because of their bad to mediocre 3-point shooting. Lol. I’m happy to finally have some talented guys who can get into the lane on the team. That used to be our bread and butter.
Your H0t Takes were some of the craziest I’ve read, mainly about Bell.

People have opinions man, some weird, some nonsensical, and some H0t.
 
This is exactly the same video I posted. It’s not even remotely close to his form and confidence now. That is gone. I hope it comes back, but right now it looks like a problem.
I’m wondering if they were trying to get a higher release point out of him, or he made his own adjustments knowing he’d have trouble getting a shot off because of the low release point.

No way he’s getting that shot off as easy as he was in college, it’s like he’s shooting from his hip.
 
I’m wondering if they were trying to get a higher release point out of him, or he made his own adjustments knowing he’d have trouble getting a shot off because of the low release point.

No way he’s getting that shot off as easy as he was in college, it’s like he’s shooting from his hip.
I’m not a big believe in changing form if you can make them. I think he would have got enough off based on his athleticism and made his fair share with that form. Now everything is a mess.
 
I’m not a big believe in changing form if you can make them. I think he would have got enough off based on his athleticism and made his fair share with that form. Now everything is a mess.
I agree with not changing the form if you’re making them, but if he has aspirations for the NBA someone down the line, either at prep, ND or maybe a trainer told him he won’t get shots off at the next levels and he had to. I’m not saying this is the case but it’s the only thing I can come up with.
 
One way to make optimal use of both Judah and JJ’s skills when they are on the court at the same time is to play a smothering full court press / heavy pressure defense designed to produce steals. This would alleviate some of the pressure on outside shooting. Thought we were going to go that route, but haven’t seen much of it yet. Maybe (hopefully!) it’s still coming.
 
Our expected star players who will need to be impactful are Judah and JJ. We will need significant contributions from 2 other guys in the rotation each game, whether it be Bell or Taylor with their shooting, Cuffe with defense and scoring, Copeland for his do it all ability, and McLeod defense/rim protection and around the basket scoring. But for major success, 2 glue guys consistently showing up will be needed, and I think those 2 are Malik and Benny.
 
I think Taylor can carve out a niche 10-12 minutes spelling the 3 and the 2 in select spots. I really dont have faith in bell
 
JM has an outside shot. Showed it at the end of last yr.t

JJ has no outside shot. He had a shoulder injury. He was only 65% from the line last yr. I'd expect that from a 5, not a 2.

We will not have a winning season without having 3 or more shooters on the court. Without a 3 pt. shot, JJ is likely to be outscored by the opposing 2. His drives will force the D to collapse.

It was said that we will have more dunks than 3's. Yikes. Unlike last year, center will not be high in point production.

A bigger and stronger Brown will be a beast. He is our only big that I would trust to have better stats than his defender.

I had hoped that Cope would be less twitchy. Maybe next year?

That leaves Cuffe. He might be the difference maker?

At best, JT and Bell would hold their own sometimes, but not often enough.

It is imperative that Benny has a big year.
 
JM has an outside shot. Showed it at the end of last yr.t

JJ has no outside shot. He had a shoulder injury. He was only 65% from the line last yr. I'd expect that from a 5, not a 2.

We will not have a winning season without having 3 or more shooters on the court. Without a 3 pt. shot, JJ is likely to be outscored by the opposing 2. His drives will force the D to collapse.

It was said that we will have more dunks than 3's. Yikes. Unlike last year, center will not be high in point production.

A bigger and stronger Brown will be a beast. He is our only big that I would trust to have better stats than his defender.

I had hoped that Cope would be less twitchy. Maybe next year?

That leaves Cuffe. He might be the difference maker?

At best, JT and Bell would hold their own sometimes, but not often enough.

It is imperative that Benny has a big year.
Benny is what he is. If your season rests on Benny, don't bother watching. Also how many teams have 3 or more shooters on the court, besides Villanova?
 
Benny is what he is. If your season rests on Benny, don't bother watching. Also how many teams have 3 or more shooters on the court, besides Villanova?
Most of the top teams do. Baylor. Kansas. Miami. Alabama. UConn. Those are just the teams off the top of my head.
 

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