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Thoughts on the upcoming year

I would LOVE to go small ball here and there.. Gillon, Howard, Battle, White, and Lydon. Yes, it looks crazy, but I think it would be fun to watch under the right circumstances (like up 20 against a colgate :) )

That's straight 09 Villanova.

Edit- best part is we know lydon can play the 5, and based on general's superb analysis (seriously, great great work), white is used to being one of the bigger guys on this side of the floor.
 
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I would LOVE to go small ball here and there.. Gillon, Howard, Battle, White, and Lydon. Yes, it looks crazy, but I think it would be fun to watch under the right circumstances (like up 20 against a colgate :) )

That's straight 09 Villanova.

That's a cool lineup. So many possibilities. I am really looking forward to November!
 
Mal's last 3 halves of last season were really good to sublime, but it might also be useful to remember that in the two games before that, he shot 3 of 14 against Gonzaga and 1 of 7 against Mid Tenn St - all four games together are pretty respresentative of his entire season. He would have had to make a very big sophmore jump to be in the POY conversation this season.

First off, I'm pretty bullish on SU this year. I'm thinking top 10, final 4 etc.

We had a chance to have (at least in my opinion) the clear cut best team in the country if Malachi did not go pro, and if Tyler Cavanaugh transferred here (which I really thought was going to happen, would love to hear what went on behind the scenes there).

Unfortunately Malachi made the correct decision for him. Though he was inconsistent as a freshman (which is pretty typical) he would not have been inconsistent as a sophomore. He probably would have been the best player in the country. I, personally, don't think Syracuse got to the final 4 by fluke. I think they got there because Malachi and Lydon grew into their exceptional talent, especially Malachi who I think is going to be a good pro.

Boeheim and staff really did a great job of rolling with the punches by adding Jon Gillon and Andrew White to give themselves a very complete and well rounded roster. When Boeheim has the pieces he needs to make his system work Syracuse is always elite . . . this year Boeheim has the pieces to make his system work.

Lets talk about one of those pieces, Andrew White. He is a fantastic replacement for Malachi, but lets cool it a bit on him being better that Malachi would have been. I think pretty much everybody knows the book on Andrew White by now, great shooter, not much of a ball handler (for a guard), not many assists, lots of rebounds, poor lateral quickness, good straight line quickness, good hops.

I watched three of Andrew White's games pretty carefully (against Michigan St., Miami, and Samford) and here is what I saw.

First of all, Nebraska played a line up of 5 guards. Their center was a Draymond Green type who actually played point on offense a lot of the time. The other three starters were midgets by SU standards. This left 6'7 Andrew White to play what amounted to the stretch 4 role. He was never asked to create offense. His job was to hang out behind the three point line, find an opening and knock down shots - and he was great at it.

Here is what we don't know . . . is Andrew White capable of handling the ball and initiating offense? Its possible that he may be able to do more of this than he showed but Nebraska simply didn't need him to because they were playing 5 guards and he was the best shooter/tallest of the 5.

Against Michigan St. White was asked to guard 6'10 first round draft pick Deyonta Davis, and Nebraska made the choice not to double team. Pretty understandably, White looked uncomfortable guarding Davis under the basket, and was fouled out of the game in about 19 minutes.

Against Miami White guarded 6-6 wing Davon Reed and pretty much shut him down, while scoring an efficient 13 points himself. Nebraska lost in overtime (which is a great result against a top 10 team).

Against Samford, White guarded one of their forwards who was a short guard by ACC standards. Again White shut him down. Against both Miami and Samford White was primarily covering the perimeter and looked really comfortable doing it, even against a smaller quicker guard. Against Michigan St. White was asked to protect the paint and looked very uncomfortable.

I don't think White will be a great defensive player for us no matter where he plays, but I think he will be better at the top of the zone than the wing of the zone. Our wings have to cover a lot of space and his noticeable lack of lateral quickness will make it hard for him to do that. And our wings will at times be matched up with bigs down low, and that is not White's strength.

On the other hand White looks very comfortable guarding the perimeter, and his lack of quickness will be less of a liability because (1) he will be taller and longer than the guys he's guarding (rather than shorter as a forward) which will help make up for a lack of quickness, and (2) because Syracuse is probably going to encourage guards to penetrate more this year because unlike last year we will have a 7'2 shot blocker waiting to make their life hell.

This does not mean I think White is going to play guard. It just means I think he'd be a better defensive guard than forward. How much White actually plays guard will have more to do with Battle/Gillon/Howard than White.

White is less of a ball handler, passer, penetrater than Malachi was, which is usually a bad thing, but could be a good thing if Battle turns out to be SO good that he needs the ball in his hands all the time. In that case White will make a better complimentary player than Richardson would have. Although something interesting I noticed from watching White, he never took a deep 3's. His toes were always right up to the line.

Batttle is the single most important player on our team. If he's our leading scorer in the games that matter, we are probably a national championship contender. If Battle can play point and Boeheim wants to keep the ball in his hands, then I can see him building version 2 of 2012 with Battle filling in for Dion Waiters and Chukwu filling in for Melo. A team of Battle and White at the guards, Roberson and Lydon at the forwards and Chukwu at center would be very hard to score against, and it would have enough rebounding to release Battle early in transition the way we did with Waiters. I think this team would be better in the half court than that team was, however, and better rebounding which is saying something because that team only lost 1 game.

Of course this puts a lot of pressure on a freshman to run the show, and there is no way to know yet if he is ready for all that. Maybe we will be better with a "true" point guard, meaning Gillon or Howard. I was one of the people pointing out last year that Howard was terrible both offensively and defensive (a fact I think most SU fans missed for some reason) however you could see Howard's progression at the end of the year, he literally got better every post season game we played. I could see him being a very different player this year than he was last year.

If I had to guess (and at this point its really just a guess) I think you will see Boeheim tinker with line ups more this year than most years to exploit other teams weaknesses. That is my way of saying forget about the starting line up, its going to be almost meaningless as a reflection of minutes played.

When we play a team like Louisville who presses you'll probably see lots of Gillon at point and White at small forward. But when we play a team that plays a zone or a man to man that sags back, you might see the better defensive combo of White and Battle as the guards.

Some teams will be vulnerable to the press and in those situations you will almost definite Gillon leading the press and Chukwu protecting the basket.

Other teams wont score much in the paint against us and perhaps Boeheim chooses to play Lydon at center and go with a fantastic offensive team of Gillon Battle White Roberson and Lydon (that's 4 guys who can shoot and Roberson under the basket to hoover up the few misses they have).

My guess is minutes and roles will very greatly from game to game because Boeheim can tweak this team more than most of the teams he's had.

So what to look for in preseason and in practice reports?

1) How does Battle look and can he play the point?
2) Who is the better point guard, Gillon or Howard?
3) Are Moyer and Thompson good enough to take minutes away from the big guys when it matters? I seriously doubt it.
4) Is Coleman good enough to earn major playing time? I have my doubts on this one, I could see Boeheim going offense/defense with Chukwu and Lydon. Lydon won't be the liability in the middle he was last year because Boeheim can choose to play him only when it will benefit us (like when a team's major low post scoring threat is sitting the bench).
5) Is White learning two positions on defense or does Boeheim want him to master one? White and Lydon are the only two guys I can see playing different roles in the zone (Lydon wing and center, White guard and wing).
6) Can Chukwu be a defensive game changer? We are probably only a championship team if he is.

Should be an exciting season with lots to argue about!
 
The thing that excites me about the versatility is that personnel that gives you options hopefully translates into being able to win different ways. Coach has shown that he's a mastermind at winning defensive chess matches in the tournament, and that's incredibly valuable, but is also somewhat dependent on getting the right matchups come tourney time. You can increase your chances of getting a matchup you can win by being versatile, and it looks like our roster offers that.
 
Great post

I disagree that Malachi would've or could've been the best player in the country. There are a ton of great players still around, and his inefficiencies, while likely improved, would've made it hard for him to be the top player.

White will play whichever position he is most comfortable with on D, IMO, and especially where JB feels most comfortable. The question is whether he's quick enough up top to slide side to side and cut off the driving lanes. From all indications, he's not an elite athlete and has average overall agility. That screams forward to me, and if he can prove to JB that he understands the rotations, trapping from the wing in the zone and can rebound, I think he'll see the majority of his time there.

I think we're looking at 30 or so minutes from White, Lydon up around 35, and Robey 20-25, with Lydon seeing minutes at the 5 and White a few up top in the games that matter. I don't see Moyer playing much, and Thompson probably won't either.

We'll probably see a lot of Gillon and Howard handling the ball, with Battle maybe the 3rd ball handler. We may see a TB/AW/TL/TR/C lineup at times, but I think Gillon or Howard will be on the court the majority of the time and have the ball in their hands. If Tyus proves capable of handling PG duties and AW can play up top, we may see that big lineup more.

It's great having a lot of flexibility and solid depth. I wish we had more inside scoring, but it seems that all other areas of possible concern are in good shape (Rebounding, outside shooting, depth, scoring). The only other concern may be how the new guys adapt to playing our zone. Battle, Gillon, White and Chukwu will all see big minutes, but haven't played in this zone. It may take some time defensively.
 
There are a couple of things which JB will make abundantly apparent from the get go with this group. The first is that if you don't buy in and utilize your talents in the fashion that JB wants them utilized... JB has plenty of other options at the position at his disposal. The competition among the players on the team being 2 deep at every position bodes well for JB eliciting the best from each and every one of them. Who can forget JB's commentary about Roberson after a game in which his impact was nonexistent?
The second thing is he will stress that they haven't accomplished anything yet!... that will be his mantra to both the team and all who posit questions in the post game pressers. Anyone would be foolish to think that JB doesn't think that this group has ALL the components to execute his vision of what the team needs to do to be the last team standing come April.

As far as equating Pascal to Fab... Chuckwu actually gives a few pounds to Melo but that will be offset by the additional inches. And I seem to recall the early hook for Melo was a frequent occurrence his first season and he wasn't the most teachable player in the post we've ever had. Certainly it wouldn't be a stretch to think that PC will have a greater affinity for picking up the nuances of the position than did Fab. A Boeheim team with a viable 7 footer has been one which is very formidable ever since 2003.

Bottom line is we are poised to watch what promises to be an Uber exciting and promising season... the kind of season that we all dream about. Barring some really bad juju... I think we are in for one hell of a ride! I can't wait.
 
First off, I'm pretty bullish on SU this year. I'm thinking top 10, final 4 etc.

We had a chance to have (at least in my opinion) the clear cut best team in the country if Malachi did not go pro, and if Tyler Cavanaugh transferred here (which I really thought was going to happen, would love to hear what went on behind the scenes there).

Unfortunately Malachi made the correct decision for him. Though he was inconsistent as a freshman (which is pretty typical) he would not have been inconsistent as a sophomore. He probably would have been the best player in the country. I, personally, don't think Syracuse got to the final 4 by fluke. I think they got there because Malachi and Lydon grew into their exceptional talent, especially Malachi who I think is going to be a good pro.

Boeheim and staff really did a great job of rolling with the punches by adding Jon Gillon and Andrew White to give themselves a very complete and well rounded roster. When Boeheim has the pieces he needs to make his system work Syracuse is always elite . . . this year Boeheim has the pieces to make his system work.

Lets talk about one of those pieces, Andrew White. He is a fantastic replacement for Malachi, but lets cool it a bit on him being better that Malachi would have been. I think pretty much everybody knows the book on Andrew White by now, great shooter, not much of a ball handler (for a guard), not many assists, lots of rebounds, poor lateral quickness, good straight line quickness, good hops.

I watched three of Andrew White's games pretty carefully (against Michigan St., Miami, and Samford) and here is what I saw.

First of all, Nebraska played a line up of 5 guards. Their center was a Draymond Green type who actually played point on offense a lot of the time. The other three starters were midgets by SU standards. This left 6'7 Andrew White to play what amounted to the stretch 4 role. He was never asked to create offense. His job was to hang out behind the three point line, find an opening and knock down shots - and he was great at it.

Here is what we don't know . . . is Andrew White capable of handling the ball and initiating offense? Its possible that he may be able to do more of this than he showed but Nebraska simply didn't need him to because they were playing 5 guards and he was the best shooter/tallest of the 5.

Against Michigan St. White was asked to guard 6'10 first round draft pick Deyonta Davis, and Nebraska made the choice not to double team. Pretty understandably, White looked uncomfortable guarding Davis under the basket, and was fouled out of the game in about 19 minutes.

Against Miami White guarded 6-6 wing Davon Reed and pretty much shut him down, while scoring an efficient 13 points himself. Nebraska lost in overtime (which is a great result against a top 10 team).

Against Samford, White guarded one of their forwards who was a short guard by ACC standards. Again White shut him down. Against both Miami and Samford White was primarily covering the perimeter and looked really comfortable doing it, even against a smaller quicker guard. Against Michigan St. White was asked to protect the paint and looked very uncomfortable.

I don't think White will be a great defensive player for us no matter where he plays, but I think he will be better at the top of the zone than the wing of the zone. Our wings have to cover a lot of space and his noticeable lack of lateral quickness will make it hard for him to do that. And our wings will at times be matched up with bigs down low, and that is not White's strength.

On the other hand White looks very comfortable guarding the perimeter, and his lack of quickness will be less of a liability because (1) he will be taller and longer than the guys he's guarding (rather than shorter as a forward) which will help make up for a lack of quickness, and (2) because Syracuse is probably going to encourage guards to penetrate more this year because unlike last year we will have a 7'2 shot blocker waiting to make their life hell.

This does not mean I think White is going to play guard. It just means I think he'd be a better defensive guard than forward. How much White actually plays guard will have more to do with Battle/Gillon/Howard than White.

White is less of a ball handler, passer, penetrater than Malachi was, which is usually a bad thing, but could be a good thing if Battle turns out to be SO good that he needs the ball in his hands all the time. In that case White will make a better complimentary player than Richardson would have. Although something interesting I noticed from watching White, he never took a deep 3's. His toes were always right up to the line.

Batttle is the single most important player on our team. If he's our leading scorer in the games that matter, we are probably a national championship contender. If Battle can play point and Boeheim wants to keep the ball in his hands, then I can see him building version 2 of 2012 with Battle filling in for Dion Waiters and Chukwu filling in for Melo. A team of Battle and White at the guards, Roberson and Lydon at the forwards and Chukwu at center would be very hard to score against, and it would have enough rebounding to release Battle early in transition the way we did with Waiters. I think this team would be better in the half court than that team was, however, and better rebounding which is saying something because that team only lost 1 game.

Of course this puts a lot of pressure on a freshman to run the show, and there is no way to know yet if he is ready for all that. Maybe we will be better with a "true" point guard, meaning Gillon or Howard. I was one of the people pointing out last year that Howard was terrible both offensively and defensive (a fact I think most SU fans missed for some reason) however you could see Howard's progression at the end of the year, he literally got better every post season game we played. I could see him being a very different player this year than he was last year.

If I had to guess (and at this point its really just a guess) I think you will see Boeheim tinker with line ups more this year than most years to exploit other teams weaknesses. That is my way of saying forget about the starting line up, its going to be almost meaningless as a reflection of minutes played.

When we play a team like Louisville who presses you'll probably see lots of Gillon at point and White at small forward. But when we play a team that plays a zone or a man to man that sags back, you might see the better defensive combo of White and Battle as the guards.

Some teams will be vulnerable to the press and in those situations you will almost definite Gillon leading the press and Chukwu protecting the basket.

Other teams wont score much in the paint against us and perhaps Boeheim chooses to play Lydon at center and go with a fantastic offensive team of Gillon Battle White Roberson and Lydon (that's 4 guys who can shoot and Roberson under the basket to hoover up the few misses they have).

My guess is minutes and roles will very greatly from game to game because Boeheim can tweak this team more than most of the teams he's had.

So what to look for in preseason and in practice reports?

1) How does Battle look and can he play the point?
2) Who is the better point guard, Gillon or Howard?
3) Are Moyer and Thompson good enough to take minutes away from the big guys when it matters? I seriously doubt it.
4) Is Coleman good enough to earn major playing time? I have my doubts on this one, I could see Boeheim going offense/defense with Chukwu and Lydon. Lydon won't be the liability in the middle he was last year because Boeheim can choose to play him only when it will benefit us (like when a team's major low post scoring threat is sitting the bench).
5) Is White learning two positions on defense or does Boeheim want him to master one? White and Lydon are the only two guys I can see playing different roles in the zone (Lydon wing and center, White guard and wing).
6) Can Chukwu be a defensive game changer? We are probably only a championship team if he is.

Should be an exciting season with lots to argue about!
The Hubie Brown of Syracuse.com
 
Count me as another bullish on DC...I don't think he is necessarily a "token" starter. He already has the ability to be an elite rebounder.
 
First off, I'm pretty bullish on SU this year. I'm thinking top 10, final 4 etc.

We had a chance to have (at least in my opinion) the clear cut best team in the country if Malachi did not go pro, and if Tyler Cavanaugh transferred here (which I really thought was going to happen, would love to hear what went on behind the scenes there).

Unfortunately Malachi made the correct decision for him. Though he was inconsistent as a freshman (which is pretty typical) he would not have been inconsistent as a sophomore. He probably would have been the best player in the country. I, personally, don't think Syracuse got to the final 4 by fluke. I think they got there because Malachi and Lydon grew into their exceptional talent, especially Malachi who I think is going to be a good pro.

Boeheim and staff really did a great job of rolling with the punches by adding Jon Gillon and Andrew White to give themselves a very complete and well rounded roster. When Boeheim has the pieces he needs to make his system work Syracuse is always elite . . . this year Boeheim has the pieces to make his system work.

Lets talk about one of those pieces, Andrew White. He is a fantastic replacement for Malachi, but lets cool it a bit on him being better that Malachi would have been. I think pretty much everybody knows the book on Andrew White by now, great shooter, not much of a ball handler (for a guard), not many assists, lots of rebounds, poor lateral quickness, good straight line quickness, good hops.

I watched three of Andrew White's games pretty carefully (against Michigan St., Miami, and Samford) and here is what I saw.

First of all, Nebraska played a line up of 5 guards. Their center was a Draymond Green type who actually played point on offense a lot of the time. The other three starters were midgets by SU standards. This left 6'7 Andrew White to play what amounted to the stretch 4 role. He was never asked to create offense. His job was to hang out behind the three point line, find an opening and knock down shots - and he was great at it.

Here is what we don't know . . . is Andrew White capable of handling the ball and initiating offense? Its possible that he may be able to do more of this than he showed but Nebraska simply didn't need him to because they were playing 5 guards and he was the best shooter/tallest of the 5.

Against Michigan St. White was asked to guard 6'10 first round draft pick Deyonta Davis, and Nebraska made the choice not to double team. Pretty understandably, White looked uncomfortable guarding Davis under the basket, and was fouled out of the game in about 19 minutes.

Against Miami White guarded 6-6 wing Davon Reed and pretty much shut him down, while scoring an efficient 13 points himself. Nebraska lost in overtime (which is a great result against a top 10 team).

Against Samford, White guarded one of their forwards who was a short guard by ACC standards. Again White shut him down. Against both Miami and Samford White was primarily covering the perimeter and looked really comfortable doing it, even against a smaller quicker guard. Against Michigan St. White was asked to protect the paint and looked very uncomfortable.

I don't think White will be a great defensive player for us no matter where he plays, but I think he will be better at the top of the zone than the wing of the zone. Our wings have to cover a lot of space and his noticeable lack of lateral quickness will make it hard for him to do that. And our wings will at times be matched up with bigs down low, and that is not White's strength.

On the other hand White looks very comfortable guarding the perimeter, and his lack of quickness will be less of a liability because (1) he will be taller and longer than the guys he's guarding (rather than shorter as a forward) which will help make up for a lack of quickness, and (2) because Syracuse is probably going to encourage guards to penetrate more this year because unlike last year we will have a 7'2 shot blocker waiting to make their life hell.

This does not mean I think White is going to play guard. It just means I think he'd be a better defensive guard than forward. How much White actually plays guard will have more to do with Battle/Gillon/Howard than White.

White is less of a ball handler, passer, penetrater than Malachi was, which is usually a bad thing, but could be a good thing if Battle turns out to be SO good that he needs the ball in his hands all the time. In that case White will make a better complimentary player than Richardson would have. Although something interesting I noticed from watching White, he never took a deep 3's. His toes were always right up to the line.

Batttle is the single most important player on our team. If he's our leading scorer in the games that matter, we are probably a national championship contender. If Battle can play point and Boeheim wants to keep the ball in his hands, then I can see him building version 2 of 2012 with Battle filling in for Dion Waiters and Chukwu filling in for Melo. A team of Battle and White at the guards, Roberson and Lydon at the forwards and Chukwu at center would be very hard to score against, and it would have enough rebounding to release Battle early in transition the way we did with Waiters. I think this team would be better in the half court than that team was, however, and better rebounding which is saying something because that team only lost 1 game.

Of course this puts a lot of pressure on a freshman to run the show, and there is no way to know yet if he is ready for all that. Maybe we will be better with a "true" point guard, meaning Gillon or Howard. I was one of the people pointing out last year that Howard was terrible both offensively and defensive (a fact I think most SU fans missed for some reason) however you could see Howard's progression at the end of the year, he literally got better every post season game we played. I could see him being a very different player this year than he was last year.

If I had to guess (and at this point its really just a guess) I think you will see Boeheim tinker with line ups more this year than most years to exploit other teams weaknesses. That is my way of saying forget about the starting line up, its going to be almost meaningless as a reflection of minutes played.

When we play a team like Louisville who presses you'll probably see lots of Gillon at point and White at small forward. But when we play a team that plays a zone or a man to man that sags back, you might see the better defensive combo of White and Battle as the guards.

Some teams will be vulnerable to the press and in those situations you will almost definite Gillon leading the press and Chukwu protecting the basket.

Other teams wont score much in the paint against us and perhaps Boeheim chooses to play Lydon at center and go with a fantastic offensive team of Gillon Battle White Roberson and Lydon (that's 4 guys who can shoot and Roberson under the basket to hoover up the few misses they have).

My guess is minutes and roles will very greatly from game to game because Boeheim can tweak this team more than most of the teams he's had.

So what to look for in preseason and in practice reports?

1) How does Battle look and can he play the point?
2) Who is the better point guard, Gillon or Howard?
3) Are Moyer and Thompson good enough to take minutes away from the big guys when it matters? I seriously doubt it.
4) Is Coleman good enough to earn major playing time? I have my doubts on this one, I could see Boeheim going offense/defense with Chukwu and Lydon. Lydon won't be the liability in the middle he was last year because Boeheim can choose to play him only when it will benefit us (like when a team's major low post scoring threat is sitting the bench).
5) Is White learning two positions on defense or does Boeheim want him to master one? White and Lydon are the only two guys I can see playing different roles in the zone (Lydon wing and center, White guard and wing).
6) Can Chukwu be a defensive game changer? We are probably only a championship team if he is.

Should be an exciting season with lots to argue about!

I envision White making a kick-out 3-point shot with 10 seconds left against Duke in the Dome game winner.
 
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We usually have a three player backcourt rotation most years. That White could fill in as the fourth guard provides quality depth, protects against injuries, etc. It doesn't put us at a disadvantage that he might play 3.


It's really more complicated than that. Almost every year, we play four guards until about mid-January or February, and then we cut down to 3 guards for the stretch run. Even in a season like last season when we had so little bench, Kaleb Joseph still got some time until about mid-season, before he disappeared. The year before, Ron Patterson got 29 games as our 4th guard, at more than 10 minutes a game. You have to have four guards, just due to injury.

You have to build some depth before you cut the rotation down. Sure, every year in March, we only play 7 or 8 guys, but for the first 3 or 4 months of the season, we go deeper, certainly whenever we have enough players worthy of an opportunity. But our rotation has almost never been only 7 guys for 35 games. People just don't hold up to the wear and tear, and you don't develop anyone for the future that way.
 
Meh. if white was anywhere near as talented as malachi, he wouldn't be here. he might be a good rotation guy, or he might be worse or better than that. there is nothing to go on. the point guard from Colorado? ok, good luck youngster. no one knows what battle is, is he john wall or some tool? then I read people saying that lydon would come off the bench. all of you lose whatever little credibility you have as posters. why in the name of the great officiant would we not start our best player. oi vei.
 
Meh. if white was anywhere near as talented as malachi, he wouldn't be here. he might be a good rotation guy, or he might be worse or better than that. there is nothing to go on. the point guard from Colorado? ok, good luck youngster. no one knows what battle is, is he john wall or some tool? then I read people saying that lydon would come off the bench. all of you lose whatever little credibility you have as posters. why in the name of the great officiant would we not start our best player. oi vei.

The only reason you don't know what Battle is is because you're misinformed. Also, probably best to not call others out on lost credibility when you get just about every detail in your post wrong.

But hey--there's always the JV board for such insightful posts.
 
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Meh. if white was anywhere near as talented as malachi, he wouldn't be here. he might be a good rotation guy, or he might be worse or better than that. there is nothing to go on. the point guard from Colorado? ok, good luck youngster. no one knows what battle is, is he john wall or some tool? then I read people saying that lydon would come off the bench. all of you lose whatever little credibility you have as posters. why in the name of the great officiant would we not start our best player. oi vei.

I'm not so sure Malachi was all that good. If TC did not miss so many shots I'm not sure Malachi would have had such good PPG numbers. He seemed a little inconsistent to me during the regular season. But his career game against UVA in the Elite 8 was sensational! One of the most amazing performances I've ever seen.

I think White is going to be a better player than Malachi. He just got jumped over at Kansas by some crazy talent. And Nebraska was a strange place to end up. When I watched the Nebraska team played they were not exactly kicking the ball out to White that much. Some of the players seemed a little selfish to me. I think White may surprise us. The Dome may be the environment White needs to really shine.
 
It's really more complicated than that. Almost every year, we play four guards until about mid-January or February, and then we cut down to 3 guards for the stretch run. Even in a season like last season when we had so little bench, Kaleb Joseph still got some time until about mid-season, before he disappeared. The year before, Ron Patterson got 29 games as our 4th guard, at more than 10 minutes a game. You have to have four guards, just due to injury.

You have to build some depth before you cut the rotation down. Sure, every year in March, we only play 7 or 8 guys, but for the first 3 or 4 months of the season, we go deeper, certainly whenever we have enough players worthy of an opportunity. But our rotation has almost never been only 7 guys for 35 games. People just don't hold up to the wear and tear, and you don't develop anyone for the future that way.

Not really complicated at all. JB has a preferred approach to using his bench, and traditionally employs a substitution pattern that primarily utilizes 3 guards. Nobody attributes what happens during the preseason portion of the schedule, where a rotation might be expanded due to easier competition, as evidence of coach using more of the bench.

With few exceptions, by the start of conference play--not March--we're down to 7 or 8 guys.

Recent history also runs counter to your claim. Even in 2012, when we were LOADED in the backcourt, JB used only 3. Here are the four guys JB had at his disposal that year: Scoop / Triche [who were experienced guys that JB trusted], Dion who ended up being a top 5 pick in the NBA draft, and MCW who ended up being the NBA rookie of the year two years later. I think that most people would acknowledge that season as the year that JB utilized a consistent, expanded substitution pattern out to 9, far deeper than he usually goes. By the last third of the season, MCW was firmly glued to the bench. He didn't even play the entire NCAA tournament if I'm not mistaken.

So--even in a year where JB had 4 immensely talented guys to use in his backcourt rotation, and that fourth guy ended up being a point guard who had the talent to later lead us to the final four / win NBA rookie of the year--JB still utilized a 3 guard rotation.

JB has never doled out PT for developmental purposes, in his 40 years on the bench. I know that many of us wish that he WOULD use an expanded bench and give younger players some developmental playing time, but that's not / has never been / will never be the way he coaches. He coaches to win every game, not to develop players for next year.
 
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I'm not so sure Malachi was all that good. If TC did not miss so many shots I'm not sure Malachi would have had such good PPG numbers. He seemed a little inconsistent to me during the regular season. But his career game against UVA in the Elite 8 was sensational! One of the most amazing performances I've ever seen.

I think White is going to be a better player than Malachi. He just got jumped over at Kansas by some crazy talent. And Nebraska was a strange place to end up. When I watched the Nebraska team played they were not exactly kicking the ball out to White that much. Some of the players seemed a little selfish to me. I think White may surprise us. The Dome may be the environment White needs to really shine.
They both did the NBA combine. One is in college, the other in the NBA
 
The only reason you don't know what Battle is is because you're misinformed. Also, probably best to not call others out on lost credibility when you get just about every detail in your post wrong.

But hey--there's always the JV board for such insightful posts.
misinformed? in comparison to what, the board wisdom? the board wisdom on paul harris was that he was the second coming. dion was not the best college player on that team. it worked because he came off the bench and dominated. do you honestly think that lydon is coming off the bench this year? he is one of the best players in all of college. do you honestly believe the crap you spew or do you do it just to try to win internet arguments?
 
Meh. if white was anywhere near as talented as malachi, he wouldn't be here. he might be a good rotation guy, or he might be worse or better than that. there is nothing to go on. the point guard from Colorado? ok, good luck youngster. no one knows what battle is, is he john wall or some tool? then I read people saying that lydon would come off the bench. all of you lose whatever little credibility you have as posters. why in the name of the great officiant would we not start our best player. oi vei.
your takes are so hot they BURN
 
misinformed? in comparison to what, the board wisdom? the board wisdom on paul harris was that he was the second coming. dion was not the best college player on that team. it worked because he came off the bench and dominated. do you honestly think that lydon is coming off the bench this year? he is one of the best players in all of college. do you honestly believe the crap you spew or do you do it just to try to win internet arguments?

I think you should change your avatar to something that both fits your handle and more accurately fits the quality of the crap YOU spew:

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