Title or bust

[CorduroyG]

So sick of these kinds of comments.

I laugh at Syracuse fans. They gloat about regular season victories and the fact that they have 1 loss. It's the same thing every year. I've seen his movie before. March rolls around and they are bounced in the early rounds. They are such underachievers and largely a disappointing tournament team.​

Like it or not thats the perception other teams fans have of us, people think we're loaded every year like duke or kansas and bow out early every year in the tourny. The reality is we're very rarely a 1 or 2 seed in the tournament, and went about 20 years where we werent a top 2 seed. But that never gets mentioned, people only remember richmond and vermont and butler and think that happens every year. Getting to a final 4 would shut some of them up, but we need another title to shut all of them up. ​

 

[texascpa]

Except for 1) We won a National Championship just 9 years ago and 2) We've never had a one-loss season. That comment is obviously made by an uninformed rube.

 

[BlueCurtain]

Except for 1) We won a National Championship just 9 years ago.

9 years ago is a lifetime to new recruits.

 

[HoustonCuse]

9 years ago is a lifetime to new recruits.

Maybe so, but only 5 schools can claim a more recent title and Kentucky is not one of them. Hasn't seemed to hurt their recruiting much.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Except for 1) We won a National Championship just 9 years ago and 2) We've never had a one-loss season. That comment is obviously made by an uninformed rube.

Eh, let's be honest. We have hugely underachieved in the NCAA tournament. Only 4 times past the Sweet 16 is embarrassing in what is it, 36 years ? We should have made at least 2 or 3 more regional finals in that time, if not a couple more final fours.

 

[NKR1978]

9 years ago is a lifetime to new recruits.

You're right. Our recruiting has been painfully bad these last few years.

 

[AZOrange]

You're right. Our recruiting has been painfully bad these last few years.

I assume our recruiting is so bad because JB has failed to garner enough information from the crowd as to what players he should recruit.

 

[Marsh01]

BlueCurtain 9 years ago is a lifetime to new recruits.

So bad that the #1 recruit was in our building and the #2 recruit is pissed we arent recruiting him.

Try again dickweed.

 

[orangenirvana]

I'll gladly take a Final Four loss. Unless it's to a mid-major. Even then, though, I'll sleep well through the entire summer.

 

[jr4750]

Forget about legacy, perception, recruiting etc. I just think we have the talent, experience and the depth to do it this year. Whether that gets us Nerlens Noel or not. There are three teams that I think can play with us when we are at our best. If my math is right, and talent trumps luck, we should be thinking FF or bust. The kids have worked hard for it, and the coaching staff believes we are capable. Thats good enough for me.

 

[Knicks411]

BlueCurtain years ago is a lifetime to new recruits.

So bad that the #1 recruit was in our building and the #2 recruit is pissed we arent recruiting him.

Try again dickweed.

Agree with the main point; did we ever figure out if the Muhammad thing was a fake or not?

 

[jdubs30]

Our recruiting now is way better than it was immediately following the title.

We were salivating over this class in 03: Terrence Roberts, Darryl Watkins, Demetris Nichols, Louie McCroskey
04: Josh Wright, Dayshawn Wright, Tommy Moss (who?)
05: Eric Devendorf, Arinze Onauku (here's where it starts to turn)
06: Devin Brennan-McBride, Paul Harris, Mike Jones
07: Jonny Flynn, Donte Greene, Rick Jackson, Scoop Jardine, Sean Williams, Kristof Ongenaet
08: Mookie Jones, Kris Joseph
09: Brandon Triche, DaShonte Riley, James Southerland
10: Fab Melo, CJ Fair, Baye Moussa-Keita, Dion Waiters
11: Michael Carter-Williams, Trevor Cooney, Rakeem Christmas

I think as of now this is how I would rank the classes (holding off on 2011):
2007
2010
2005
2009
2008
2003
2006
2004

 

[pearl31]

9 years ago is a lifetime to new recruits.

As are those bigger courts they have to play on.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

05: Eric Devendorf, Arinze Onauku (here's where it starts to turn)

You left out Andy Rautins.

 

[DeGrozz]

Tommy Moss?

I don't think I ever heard that name before...

 

[jdubs30]

You left out Andy Rautins.

Ah good call. I just went on At their request, this network is being blocked from this site. when I did that, he wasn't on there.

Yeah I never heard of Moss either, maybe he was a football recruit or something?

 

[jec1521]

Tommy Moss?

I don't think I ever heard that name before...

He played football, but rivals had him as a bball recruit too for some odd reason.

 

[bnoro]

Our recruiting now is way better than it was immediately following the title.

We were salivating over this class in 03: Terrence Roberts, Darryl Watkins, Demetris Nichols, Louie McCroskey
04: Josh Wright, Dayshawn Wright, Tommy Moss (who?)
05: Eric Devendorf, Arinze Onauku (here's where it starts to turn)
06: Devin Brennan-McBride, Paul Harris, Mike Jones
07: Jonny Flynn, Donte Greene, Rick Jackson, Scoop Jardine, Sean Williams, Kristof Ongenaet
08: Mookie Jones, Kris Joseph
09: Brandon Triche, DaShonte Riley, James Southerland
10: Fab Melo, CJ Fair, Baye Moussa-Keita, Dion Waiters
11: Michael Carter-Williams, Trevor Cooney, Rakeem Christmas

I think as of now this is how I would rank the classes (holding off on 2011):
2007
2010
2005
2009
2008
2003
2006
2004

I say 2010's better than 2007.

 

[mikekan14]

Eh, let's be honest. We have hugely underachieved in the NCAA tournament. Only 4 times past the Sweet 16 is embarrassing in what is it, 36 years ? We should have made at least 2 or 3 more regional finals in that time, if not a couple more final fours.

YES! and let's not mention the opening round exits to Vermont and A&M since the championship year.

 

[jdubs30]

YES! and let's not mention the opening round exits to Vermont and A&M since the championship year.

That A&M loss doesn't bother me as much. We really weren't a good team that year and were exhausted from the BET.

 

[jec1521]

I say 2010's better than 2007.

First thing that came to my mind as well.

 

[moqui]

I say 2010's better than 2007.

that may end up being the case, but if Dion and Fab leave early w/o getting past the Sweet 16, what then?

And, I will put a special note in for the 2008 class, because even though it is a small group and one of the two barely played at all, when all is said and done, Kris is going to leave the school with close to 1500 points and over 600 boards and as the winningest player in SU history.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

There are teams that haven't even made the tourney. Who the @ck cares if we generally only make it a few rounds in?

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

I'll gladly take a Final Four loss. Unless it's to a mid-major. Even then, though, I'll sleep well through the entire summer.

THIS. We are a damn good team year in and year out.. its time we start making hay with some of these good teams. Where there is smoke, there is fire. 4 out of 36 past the round of 16 just isn't enough for an elite program.

 

[jdubs30]

that may end up being the case, but if Dion and Fab leave early w/o getting past the Sweet 16, what then?

And, I will put a special note in for the 2008 class, because even though it is a small group and one of the two barely played at all, when all is said and done, Kris is going to leave the school with close to 1500 points and over 600 boards and as the winningest player in SU history.

Until Brandon grauduates.

He has a damn good chance of starting every game all 4 years during the best 4 year stretch in SU history.