Top 5 of the Last 50: Pass Rushers

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I’ve seen at least two of these guys change a whole game due to their athleticism. Solid list

 

[wfschrec]

I probably would have put Rob Barnett at 5 ahead of Mitchell.

 

[crales44]

I probably would have put Rob Barnett at 5 ahead of Mitchell.

I love both guys but Mitchell is sixth all time at Cuse in sacks as a nose tackle and Burnett is in tenth. Mitchell was an absolute force. I still smile thinking how he dominated Colorado in the 93 Fiesta Bowl.

 

[upperdeck]

had mitchell been a bit bigger he would have been crazy good,

 

[anglerman]

Freeney is first period without question.

 

[XC Cuse]

Jay Bromleys senior year was pretty good

 

[crales44]

To be honest, I'm not sure Chandler makes my top five. He was more good than great at Syracuse. Different story in the pros, where he really flourished.

 

[shu 49]

Freeney is first period without question.

Agreed

 

[23Zone]

Terry Wooden would be 5.5

 

[sufandu]

To be honest, I'm not sure Chandler makes my top five. He was more good than great at Syracuse. Different story in the pros, where he really flourished.

Yeah. I'm not sure pro stats should matter all that much. 10 sacks over the course of 3 seasons doesn't scream top 5 to me. Clearly, the tools were obvious, he was a first round pick.

 

[sufandu]

I'm ok with Green being #1 over my avatar. He did have 11.5 more career sacks and was a consensus all American. I saw the list for most sacks in a game. Of course Freeney putting Vick on his back 4.5 times is #1. #2? Green with 4 against... Virginia Tech.

Edit: We have 4 other guys with 4 sack games. 3 of those were against Pitt.

 

[sufandu]

Crazy to think Freeney had 13 sacks in 2000. How many does he get if he doesn't miss the end of VaTech and the last 4 games of the season? We probably don't get to have 2001 if he doesn't get hurt. And he's not around to sign my football after the 2001 spring game.

 

[Yeti]

Biased but that year we had both Alton Robinson and Kendall Coleman with 10 sacks should be its own entry.

 

[upperdeck]

We don't need NFL good pass rush guys, but it sure helps if you have college good pass rush guys on the Dline.

 

[Chip]

To be honest, I'm not sure Chandler makes my top five. He was more good than great at Syracuse. Different story in the pros, where he really flourished.

His brother could be in consideration for the 2008 Notre Dame game alone.

 

[MSOrange]

To be honest, I'm not sure Chandler makes my top five. He was more good than great at Syracuse. Different story in the pros, where he really flourished.

I can get on board with that argument. As I recall, he had some injury issues at SU that hampered his production also.

 

[sufandu]

Biased but that year we had both Alton Robinson and Kendall Coleman with 10 sacks should be its own entry.

May be the second best duo behind Freeney and Pettijohn in 2000.

 

[OrangeBass]

I agree with Tim Green at number 1, based on 4 years of work. If Freeney had stayed healthy I think he could have been number 1. I definately think Kevin Mitchell over both Duke Pettijohn and Chandler Jones. He could really disrupt things from the noseguard spot. Chandler is only on here due to his pro stats. The main name missing is Ted Gregory. Again an injury really limited him.

 

[RF2044]

Freeney was better, and should be #1. Green was clearly terrific, as well, and I have zero problem with them being # 1 / 2.

Cool to see Duke getting his due. He was a fantastic player for us, and a stud pass rusher.

Hard to believe he and Freeney were here a quarter of a century ago.

 

[orange_in_VA]

As a Syracuse player, I'm putting Brandon Sharpe over Chandler Jones.

 

[sufandu]

Freeney was better, and should be #1. Green was clearly terrific, as well, and I have zero problem with them being # 1 / 2.

Cool to see Duke getting his due. He was a fantastic player for us, and a stud pass rusher.

Hard to believe he and Freeney were here a quarter of a century ago.

I guess the discussion is how you weigh better vs more accomplished. For a list like this when you have two guys that were both great, I can see the more accomplished one getting the nod.

Reconciling different eras is also an interesting discussion. Green played against more run oriented offenses that were probably slower paced, so he may have had fewer opportunities. But Freeney played as offenses were evolving for QBs to get rid of the ball quicker.

Would love to have seen 3 full healthy years of Freeney.

 

[RF2044]

I guess the discussion is how you weigh better vs more accomplished. For a list like this when you have two guys that were both great, I can see the more accomplished one getting the nod.

Reconciling different eras is also an interesting discussion. Green played against more run oriented offenses that were probably slower paced, so he may have had fewer opportunities. But Freeney played as offenses were evolving for QBs to get rid of the ball quicker.

Would love to have seen 3 full healthy years of Freeney.

Yeah, not worth splitting hairs [in general, not with your response sufandu] over definitions -- "better" versus "accomplished." These type of lists and how people interpret them are all subjective, anyway.

For me, Freeney was the most dominant player I've ever seen for Syracuse football [McNabb and McCord would be the only other ones with similar impact, but on the other side of the ball]. So I rate him higher.

Good point about the different eras, roles, etc. though.

 

[sufandu]

Yeah, not worth splitting hairs [in general, not with your response sufandu] over definitions -- "better" versus "accomplished." These type of lists and how people interpret them are all subjective, anyway.

For me, Freeney was the most dominant player I've ever seen for Syracuse football [McNabb and McCord would be the only other ones with similar impact, but on the other side of the ball]. So I rate him higher.

Good point about the different eras, roles, etc. though.

Yeah. I've never seen a defensive player dominate games for us the way he did.

 

[Eric15]

Imagine in some alternate reality if Mike Vick comes to SU and we have him with those 1999 and 2000 defenses.