UConn

[Alsacs]

I posted this about UConn on the football board.

I feel a little bad for UConn(they have gotten the shaft but they act like douchenozzles), but they keep acting like that relative/friend who feels like if you get invited to a party you have to bring them with you just because they are your relative/friend. Syracuse was not part of the 2003 ACC lawsuit and don't think the ACC schools never forget that. Its why we were their first choice for future expansion as 13 now Virginia Tech and Pitt were also part of that lawsuit, but UVA got the screws put to them by Marc Warner and that is how VPI got in, and whether its fair or not the perception that Blumthemal leading the lawsuit as the face for UConn made UConn the number 1 target for angst from the ACC and if BC/Miami blackballed UConn in favor of Pitt that is their own fault.

What annoys me is that it took so long for UConn to get into the D-1 football game and they act like they should be given a lottery ticket as a result. While teams like TCU, SMU have history from the 70's and Louisville built itself from C-USA. Okay, UConn you stepped up in 1998 Congrats buddy, but how about earning your way into an elite league. Syracuse football was bad from 2005 till 2009 and they want to make that era seem like it wipes out our decades of history prior while they have none. We beat Kansas State, West Virginia, Minnesota in bowl games UConn's best bowl wins are South Carolina, Toledo, Buffalo. I mean Congrats you guys achieved mediocrity pretty easily by being given a golden ticket in a BCS league, but you have not accomplished that much so and respect is earned NOT GIVEN.

This is my problem with the UConn program. Their basketball program is going to die slowly as a national program like it has happened to UNLV because it will be stuck playing East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Central Florida, Memphis, Temple in conference play. Their program will max out as a 3-4 seed in the NCAA Tournament and that is if they don't have their annual What losses like last night and actually win good OOC games. It doesn't mean they can't be a decent basketball team and make a run occasionally, but they are now in a mid-major conference and will die the death of 1000 cuts.

 

[ithacat]

It was Houston's largest crowd of the year I believe! They almost had 4,500 in attendance!

That's more than 50% capacity. TV must have played tricks on my eyes.

 

[jncuse]

It was Houston's largest crowd of the year I believe! They almost had 4,500 in attendance!

Was 4,500 the announced attendance?

They were lucky if there was 450 people at the game - and I am not saying that to be a smartass.

 

[cuseguy]

I think a soldout SMU arena is awaiting them this weekend. Houston should be ashamed of have only 100s at the arena. Somehow I see UConn coming back and getting this game to go to the wire...but they still suck. Houston has 3 starters out.

The crowd of about 5,000 was 1,000 more than they usually get.

 

[jdubs30]

Was 4,500 the announced attendance?

They were lucky if there was 450 people at the game - and I am not saying that to be a smartass.

4,035 was. But I agree, it was way less than that.

 

[jncuse]

UConn has not been a dominant programs in five years. You can win a title and not be dominant (and yes UConn fans deserve to be proud of the 2011 team regardless)

There is no sign that its underclassmen and current recruits will change that - it looks like they will be average for a while still.

The problem is that this is an urgent time for the UConn program and it needs to be dominant this year and the next 3-4 years to counter irrelevancy. Tulane, Tulsa, and ECU are coming and they are only going to act as rapid accelerators to a downward spiral to irrelevancy.

Bye UConn.

 

[jncuse]

its mind boggling that cuse fans still wnat uconn in the acc. why?????

You may want to use "about a dozen" somewhere in that sentence.

 

[Orangezoo]

Lol just read a post saying their 2011 team is a national title winner this year... it will be a slow path for them to acceptance.

 

[Alsacs]

Lol just read a post saying their 2011 team is a national title winner this year... it will be a slow path for them to acceptance.

Yeah, that 2011 NC is such a fluke it really pisses me off. Their road to the NC was so EASY. They had the best player in college that year in Kemba Walker, but what an outlier run to a NC. I mean I give them credit for winning 6 games in a row, but they beat #14 Bucknell, #6 Cincinnati, #2 San Diego State, #4 Arizona, #4 Kentucky, #8 Butler.

I mean WOW. I wish in retrospect that Ohio State had beat Kentucky in the sweet 16. I was rooting against the Buckeyes that year, but they run to the NC if they beat Kentucky whom they lost to by 1 pt. The 2011 East regional was stacked that year.

 

[Ghost]

I don't know - I watched that game last night. I give them all the credit in the world. That was one plucky mid-major I saw out there storming back to take the lead over the mighty Houston, ummmm (Texans? Oilers? Cougars?) in front of a double-digit crowd!!

All 50 or so fans in attendance were really bored with passionate about their team - such a home-court advantage for the Cougars. I wouldn't want to play in that atmosphere.

Anyway, I'm going against the grain here and giving all the credit in the world to UConn. I, for one, came away extremely impressed. They could really be the next VCU or George Mason if they can keep this up and get a little better as the year progresses.

 

[orange79]

I posted this about UConn on the football board.

I feel a little bad for UConn(they have gotten the shaft but they act like douchenozzles), but they keep acting like that relative/friend who feels like if you get invited to a party you have to bring them with you just because they are your relative/friend. Syracuse was not part of the 2003 ACC lawsuit and don't think the ACC schools never forget that. Its why we were their first choice for future expansion as 13 now Virginia Tech and Pitt were also part of that lawsuit, but UVA got the screws put to them by Marc Warner and that is how VPI got in, and whether its fair or not the perception that Blumthemal leading the lawsuit as the face for UConn made UConn the number 1 target for angst from the ACC and if BC/Miami blackballed UConn in favor of Pitt that is their own fault.

What annoys me is that it took so long for UConn to get into the D-1 football game and they act like they should be given a lottery ticket as a result. While teams like TCU, SMU have history from the 70's and Louisville built itself from C-USA. Okay, UConn you stepped up in 1998 Congrats buddy, but how about earning your way into an elite league. Syracuse football was bad from 2005 till 2009 and they want to make that era seem like it wipes out our decades of history prior while they have none. We beat Kansas State, West Virginia, Minnesota in bowl games UConn's best bowl wins are South Carolina, Toledo, Buffalo. I mean Congrats you guys achieved mediocrity pretty easily by being given a golden ticket in a BCS league, but you have not accomplished that much so and respect is earned NOT GIVEN.

This is my problem with the UConn program. Their basketball program is going to die slowly as a national program like it has happened to UNLV because it will be stuck playing East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Central Florida, Memphis, Temple in conference play. Their program will max out as a 3-4 seed in the NCAA Tournament and that is if they don't have their annual What losses like last night and actually win good OOC games. It doesn't mean they can't be a decent basketball team and make a run occasionally, but they are now in a mid-major conference and will die the death of 1000 cuts.

You lost me after "I feel a little bad for UConn..."

 

[Alsacs]

You lost me after "I feel a little bad for UConn..."

Yeah, I don't "feel bad" for the fans. What I meant is that in all of this realignment that has taken place. The B1G, ACC, SEC, Pac-12, Big XII adding teams, and the Catholic-7 breaking off no school has lost more than UConn. That is why I feel a little bad. Its not enough for me to wish for them to be in the ACC, but I can say that I understand how they must feel bad. If their fanbase wasn't so annoying I would feel more bad. They have been sent to C-USA and honestly that is where their football team deserves to be as they did nothing to deserve to being given a golden ticket into a BCS when they joined D-1 football. USF and Cincinnati have also lost since this realignment has taken place, but they came from C-USA so they aren't as large a loser as UConn because they were never there. UConn made its bed, but I can say I feel a little bad for them and not like them.

 

[GFTakedown]

Should the Big 12 pick up some schools, I still don't think they approach UConn! Cincy, Memphis, USF/UCF are better programs for the Big 12 recruiting areas/markets. Uconn's only chance would be for some miracle expansion by Big 10 because I don't see the ACC expanding in the NE anymore. That actually occurring is a pipe dream!!

 

[wallacecuse]

Was 4,500 the announced attendance?

They were lucky if there was 450 people at the game - and I am not saying that to be a smartass.

Honestly - pick a random Wegman's on any given Saturday, and you will find more people than were at that game last night.

 

[ClamOtto]

If UConn stays in that conference there will be no more threads about them on here within three years. They'll be no more our rivals than St. Bonaventure. I do worry that the ACC will give in and invite them though. I wouldn't have thought that would happen after the first round of expansion because the ACC schools really do care about academics. Everyone except NC State is top 100 and they're close. But then they took Louisville, which isn't even in the same ballpark academically. UConn is MIT in comparison.

 

[orange79]

If UConn stays in that conference there will be no more threads about them on here within three years. They'll be no more our rivals than St. Bonaventure. I do worry that the ACC will give in and invite them though. I wouldn't have thought that would happen after the first round of expansion because the ACC schools really do care about academics. Everyone except NC State is top 100 and they're close. But then they took Louisville, which isn't even in the same ballpark academically. UConn is MIT in comparison.

There is no reason at all for the ACC to 'give in' and invite UConn. They bring nothing that is currently important to the ACC - football. The league addressed basketball while addressing football (SU, Pitt, Louisville, and to a lesser extent, ND). All UConn brings is hoops - and even that is in question with Calhoun's retirement. The only way UConn gets thrown a bone is if ND decides to go all in and UConn is part of the deal. And there is no evidence that ND gives a single about UConn. Unless the Big XII wants to expand north and east (and I seriously doubt that would ever happen - there's no reason to), there is no other league that would want them. They are screwed.

 

[tee1222]

You know why we haven't heard from any uconn fans this thread?

Let's think about it logically for a second.
Cause of New Year's? Nah.
They don't come around here normally? Not a chance.





























Answer is, they're busy doing something else.

 

[PeteCalvin]

I know many people think that Georgetown was the ultimate rivalry but the Yukon fans definitely made that rivalry more compelling. Very similar to Yankees vs Red Sox. I think it was definitely more about the fans than about the players.

I think it is great that they lost to Houston. I remember one of the Yukon fans coming on our board preaching how good the Houston program is. Well they found out first hand. Looking at the Huskies schedule I can possibly see seven or eight more losses. Plus they are going to have a tough one at home on January 8th when they host Harvard.

The parallel between UConn Fan and Red Sox Fan is actually pretty accurate. I preface this by saying I am not a Yankee fan, so I have no dog in the fight. However, I know some pretty arrogant Red Sox fans that have been unbearable the last ten years. It's like one decade of excellence had made up for a lifetime of mediocrity. As with Red Sox Fan, all the venomous BS built up in UConn Fan over the years and then just spilled out upon the world the minute success was achieved. I get that. However, just because you won a third championship 3 years ago doesn't make your team America's Team. I certainly don't go around and gloat about 2003. Don't have to. The continual success of SU Basketball does all the talking for me. UConn Fan would trade his left nut to be where SU is right now. Believe that. This is about far more than how many trophies you have. This is about maintaining the level of relevance and success. ACC >>>>>AAC.

 

[IthacaMatt]

But, but, they won [multiple] n.c's

So did teams like San Francisco, Cincinnati and Oklahoma State, back in the day... And the sun is setting on that day. They've got about 5 years to get into a major conference before they become Temple or UMass or Providence.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Mighty UConn has not been more than 2 games above .500 in conference in the last 4 years - their combined Big East record in that period was 34-38. Looks like the trend will continue this year.

I knew they were middling along but I had no idea they were doing that poorly.

That 2009 title was only because the refs stopped calling traveling on Kemba Walker for the month of March.

 

[QManCuse]

I live in the Orlando area. There has been talk down here that the Big 12 may be interested in UCF. They are truly a sleeping giant, the 2nd largest school in the country. How great would it be to have them in the ACC, tremendous fball team that will only get better, and with the addition of a big name coach, a hoops squad that could quickly become relevant given the attractiveness of the area. Outstanding football rivalries and with all our NE transplants, (especially CNY) just a perfect addition. Really, what does UConn bring? How about a pathetic football team and a has-been bball program. Certainly nothing attractive there.

 

[cusetown1]

Uconn needs to drop their football program and beg the Big East to let them back in. Maybe even start a catholic tradition or something.

 

[Orange87]

The problem with. Bringing UCF to the ACC is the same reason UConn is still out in the cold. ACC doesn't want an odd number of football programs.

IF Notre Dame ever comes into the ACC has a full football member then the ACC would look to add another school to balance out the number of schools.

If that happened and the ACC chose UCF over UConn? Hooo-boy that would definitely be the death knell for the Huskies.

 

[Frozen]

tremendous fball team that will only get better,

That is questionable. Also, while I respect O'Leary, he is going to be 68 before next season starts, so that's not necessarily conducive to bringing in top talent, Jim Boeheim's track record aside.

 

[zeekay]

The problem with. Bringing UCF to the ACC is the same reason UConn is still out in the cold. ACC doesn't want an odd number of football programs.

IF Notre Dame ever comes into the ACC has a full football member then the ACC would look to add another school to balance out the number of schools.

If that happened and the ACC chose UCF over UConn? Hooo-boy that would definitely be the death knell for the Huskies.

UCF will never happen. No conference nowadays will accept another school in the same state they have members. ACC already has 2 there. That just kills your TV revenue sharing. Even if ND joins, UCF will not happen. Any schools in the same state as existing schools are out of the picture. Same is true for any other major expanding conference (BigTen, SEC)