University Of Buffalo New Coach

[orange_in_VA]

UB shouldn't be a concern in the immediate future, but I wouldn't ignore them. If NYS can get past the jealousies of other SUNY schools and start throwing money at UB, they could improve quickly. The school has an opportunity to share an NFL class facility with the Bills. Like SU, the school wants to be recognized as New York's team. The starting QB (Licata) had an offer from SU. Leipold is a successful head coach. The immediate need is for better athletes on the defensive side of the ball, but given Leipold's record, it is not hard to see UB becoming a consistently strong MAC school. Add some serious state money and who knows what could happen.

Before you snicker too much, ask yourself when was the last time SU had a player drafted in the NFL first round? For UB it was 2014, top 5 pick Khalil Mack. The school also had running backs that now play for the Packers and the Chargers as well as players on the Ravens and Vikings. In short, UB's success with NFL players over the past few years is not too different from SU.

I think Leipold will do really well there. The guy knows how to win, and has a lot of head coach experience. He's already recruiting pretty well for UB. They got two really nice Running Backs in the 2015 class, both with multiple P5 offers, and Licata's strong play has helped them attract some pretty good QB prospects. They've been churning out better RBs than Cuse in recent years with James Starks and Brandon Oliver, and are becoming a Mid-Major RBU of sorts.

I don't really get your point about first round draft picks however. Mack was the only first round draft pick in their D1 history. We've had Pugh and Chandler Jones in recent years, and many more draft picks overall compared to UB.

 

[Pyle]

the history is that many here said the very same thing about rutgers when they started to emphasize their football program. they were laughed at, by us made fun of etc. they virtually shut us out of recruiting in nj (to just recently), beat us several times, have better attendance than we do etc etc. we are not in a position by any stretch of the imagination, to not worry.

The biggest problem for UB is the way SUNY is setup. They will never be as big as other state U's because of the way NYS has 4 major univeristy centers in Stony Brook, Albany, Binghamton, and UB. They will never have the same size student body, commitment by the state, etc. UB is a non-issue.

 

[orange_in_VA]

The biggest problem for UB is the way SUNY is setup. They will never be as big as other state U's because of the way NYS has 4 major univeristy centers in Stony Brook, Albany, Binghamton, and UB. They will never have the same size student body, commitment by the state, etc. UB is a non-issue.

UB has more students than Cuse, and Albany is already about to expand their brand new stadium.

 

[Shenexon]

BUFFALO and OKLAHOMA to the B1G

Rutgers DOES need a regional rival...

 

[Pyle]

UB has more students than Cuse, and Albany is already about to expand their brand new stadium.

I wasn't referencing their size in relation to us but to Rutgers. It was mentioned that we need to worry about UB because we took a similar attitude with Rutgers and it bite us in the arse. Fact is Rutgers has 45k undergrad and 65k total enrollment. That's more than 2x the size of UB. Combine that with the fact that UB has to share state funds with 3 other university centers and you can see they don't have the resources to pull off a Rutgers style renaissance.

 

[Millhouse]

ACC vs MAC, some world university games track stadium vs the dome

i mean, come on now. i like the hire and i want them to be good but this is not something to worry about.

 

[orange_in_VA]

I wasn't referencing their size in relation to us but to Rutgers. It was mentioned that we need to worry about UB because we took a similar attitude with Rutgers and it bite us in the arse. Fact is Rutgers has 45k undergrad and 65k total enrollment. That's more than 2x the size of UB. Combine that with the fact that UB has to share state funds with 3 other university centers and you can see they don't have the resources to pull off a Rutgers style renaissance.

Gotcha. My bad. I thought you were talking about enrollment compared to Cuse.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I just realized that their new coach, Lance Leipold, has won 5 Dlll national championships since 2007. He has had double digit wins ever since 2007, sometimes getting 14 and 15 wins in a season. I believe that if you can coach, it will be manifested at any college level. Does anyone think this will be a concern for Syracuse in the future? I realize that any success he has there will only be until some team snatches him away from UB. In the meantime he could get Buffalo to a level that big time NY recruits will give the Bulls some attention.

Yikes. Really? We are fine and if UB gets really good, we should ALWAYS still be better, if we aren't then worry about Syracuse not UB.

 

[Trueblue25]

UB over PSU this season mark my words.

 

[NKR1978]

UB shouldn't be a concern in the immediate future, but I wouldn't ignore them. If NYS can get past the jealousies of other SUNY schools and start throwing money at UB, they could improve quickly. The school has an opportunity to share an NFL class facility with the Bills. Like SU, the school wants to be recognized as New York's team. The starting QB (Licata) had an offer from SU. Leipold is a successful head coach. The immediate need is for better athletes on the defensive side of the ball, but given Leipold's record, it is not hard to see UB becoming a consistently strong MAC school. Add some serious state money and who knows what could happen.

Before you snicker too much, ask yourself when was the last time SU had a player drafted in the NFL first round? For UB it was 2014, top 5 pick Khalil Mack. The school also had running backs that now play for the Packers and the Chargers as well as players on the Ravens and Vikings. In short, UB's success with NFL players over the past few years is not too different from SU.

Justin Pugh was a first round pick.

No one in NY is ever going to care about Tuesday night MACtion wins agains WMU.

 

[TheCusian]

The ceiling for UB is low due to conference affiliation and money. The end.

 

[Trueblue25]

Woah, I love my tuesday night maction

 

[IthacaBarrel]

UB over PSU this season mark my words.

OK will do. When UB had Turner Gill they came to the dome which was their hey day they came to the dome to play just a horrible Syracuse team coached by GROB, just a horrible Syracuse team, and Syracuse still won. Enough said and UB was probably the better team that day. Will never happen again. If I were Syracuse I would never play UB, just would not do it.

Alibrandi stadium is nicer than their dump

 

[Trueblue25]

OK will do. When UB had Turner Gill they came to the dome which was their hey day they came to the dome to play just a horrible Syracuse team coached by GROB, just a horrible Syracuse team, and Syracuse still won. Enough said and UB was probably the better team that day. Will never happen again. If I were Syracuse I would never play UB, just would not do it.

Alibrandi stadium is nicer than their dump

Any given day anything can happen, thats why they play the game

 

[orangedave]

Some serious differences, 1- they are the primary/only D1 program in a talented state 2- they were in the big east at the time a power conference.

Buffalo is not now, nor ever been in a power conference, they are also not even in a talent rich state, let alone the primary d1 power in that state

That plus they were the beneficiary of truckloads of cash sent to the program by the NJ state legislature.

 

[Rocco]

no sir, su does have something to worry about ---pay attention to history---and curb arrogance

What is wrong with you? Curb arrogance? Good grief.

 

[Trueblue25]

And just sayin, the khalil mack's last year team that made the potato bowl (haha i know) was far, far better than turner gil's in my opinion. Comparable running back in Bo Oliver, better recievers, solid Qb and an all american top 5 pick at linebacker/end

 

[tipphill]

No problem being wrong - it was him or Marrone that did damage to our relationships with NJ coaches.

Share your knowledge instead of the goal being proving me wrong and the site will be a better place, I think.

Also - let whatever issue you have with me go. I'm trying to be a model citizen around here. If you want me gone - just say it. I'll go back to lurking.

it happened prior to marrone and grob----people blamed pp for the decline in su football, but it was more the non investment in the program and facilities than the coach. ben s. suffered a similiar fate. it came at a time when ru and other schools were up grading facilities. by the way, bees made a very good suggestion---perhaps a better response may have been asking what others thought the decline was due to. it was the perfect storm for su. i am sure there are other reasons as well, that is just my take .

 

[Digable5]

Buffalo (the city and area) are having a resurgence. There is a lot of development going on and a lot of things to be excited about. UB is having work done on their stadium and football facilities. There is more reason to be optimistic about their chances than ever before. UB could definitely be lifted up by the BuffaLove. You could become worried about them recruiting premier NYS recruits.

That being said, Syracuse should't be worried about UB. They should be worrying about FSU, Miami, Clemson, etc... Worry about Ohio State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida. If UB becomes a good program and even moves to the B1G, great for them. There are plenty of players to go around if you continue to recruit good players from wherever they are and win football games. Let's have the top programs start worrying about us instead of worrying about anyone else.

 

[Trueblue25]

Buffalo (the city and area) are having a resurgence. There is a lot of development going on and a lot of things to be excited about. UB is having work done on their stadium and football facilities. There is more reason to be optimistic about their chances than ever before. UB could definitely be lifted up by the BuffaLove. You could become worried about them recruiting premier NYS recruits.

That being said, Syracuse should't be worried about UB. They should be worrying about FSU, Miami, Clemson, etc... Worry about Ohio State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida. If UB becomes a good program and even moves to the B1G, great for them. There are plenty of players to go around if you continue to recruit good players from wherever they are and win football games. Let's have the top programs start worrying about us instead of worrying about anyone else.

Fear the BuffaLove

 

[donniesyracuse]

I see UB's ceiling as being a perennial MAC power, which would occasionally put them in the national conversation like Northern Illinois in the past. I cannot imagine SUNY ever investing in the program enough to warrant ACC or Big Ten consideration. I am too lazy to look up the numbers, but UB's athletic department must lose a ton of money for the University/system.

 

[tipphill]

I see UB's ceiling as being a perennial MAC power, which would occasionally put them in the national conversation like Northern Illinois in the past. I cannot imagine SUNY ever investing in the program enough to warrant ACC or Big Ten consideration. I am too lazy to look up the numbers, but UB's athletic department must lose a ton of money for the University/system.

ub has what is called the ub2020. basically it is a strategic plan for the campus which includes significant stadium and facility upgrade--- i would not put it past nys investing more dollars in suny ub, and they become as you say a, a mac power competing for su recruits locally. you never know what the ceiling maybe. i believe that if we do not regain some respectability, we have no basis to overlook them or anyone else for that matter. we have something to prove. by the way, for a fan experience they have a pregame concert series which seems very popular. starts 2hrs before each game

 

[Ozcuse]

If UB wanted to compete H2H with Cuse for recruits they would need to hire a coach that hits the areas that we do hard. If they hired someone like Acosta, Daoust or Lester away from us as HC that could hurt us short term recruiting wise but I still think that Buffalo's recruiting area and ceiling mirrors their conference affiliation- the midwest plus PA, FL, and NY scraps.

 

[retro44]

If a Western NYS kid was down to UB. and Syracuse and wants in on an engineering degree bad he just might choose Buffalo and don't surprised or talk bad about the kid,it's his choice. Buffalo might get a kid now and then that we might want. Michigan fans probably has that same opinion of Syracuse......

 

[Trueblue25]

UB2020 is amazing and good for them it's really going to go along with helping rejuvenate and bring jobs to the area too.