USC Fires Clay Helton

[CA Monk]

How about the firm of Franklin, Fickell and Fleck.

FU?

 

[Alsacs]

Say we get two completely reasonable (like factual) whistles and we win the game 13-7. Would everyone still be bellyaching here?

We were pathetic offensively.

If we won the game I would say 4-8 rather than 3-9.
That offense wasn’t FBS level decent that isn’t even the level of P5 which if should be.

 

[elimunelson]

Joe Brady is a name I read USC will want to interview.

I wonder if Marrone would want the USC job. He’s unpredictable and they are too

 

[Briancuse]

I wonder if Marrone would want the USC job. He’s unpredictable and they are too

He doesn't recruit well enough and not flashy enough for La.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I’m honestly confident he thought he was going there in 2019. There was a podcast where they strongly hinted at him leaving for there (a guy known to know these things, well-respected media).

That was the end of Dino. His mind has wandered on to other things that "might have been".

 

[Bayside44]

NO and that isn't to say that they should or shouldn't be. The lack of using the time outs against Pitt last year and while we wouldn't know about the punt on 4th and 10, that kind of decision will rear it's ugly head again someday. Probably sooner than we would all like.

I hated that call. Something different needs to be happening by conference play. We hired Dino because he didn't punt there.

 

[tep624]

Hahahahaha

The Schiano thing is a joke right?

There's no way that's a credible tweet.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Hasn't Helton been this close to getting fired like as soon as they hired him?

 

[elimunelson]

The Schiano thing is a joke right?

There's no way that's a credible tweet.

Schiano is a good coach. If Rutgers goes bowling somehow it’ll be a testament to him.

 

[TheCusian]

That was the end of Dino. His mind has wandered on to other things that "might have been".

I’m beginning to think this is right. That and the Baylor system getting figured out stole the thing that made him.

He’s still a good, seasoned coach. Maybe he retires soon? Gotta think that’s what’s next.

 

[TheCusian]

Schiano is a good coach. If Rutgers goes bowling somehow it’ll be a testament to him.

Good is not the word. “OK” “Limited, but whatever”

 

[elimunelson]

Good is not the word. “OK” “Limited, but whatever”

Schiano > Babers

I wonder who the interim USC guy is and if we shouldn’t be calling him since he’s a Syracuse guy who is a monster recruiter

 

[FasterCuse]

Say we get two completely reasonable (like factual) whistles and we win the game 13-7. Would everyone still be bellyaching here?

If ifs and buts were only candy and nuts

 

[SkyTopBus44]

Since LA got the NFL, I am not sure if SC is as powerful a draw. It is also amazing to think that Nebraska, Florida State, Tennessee, USC, Texas, all stink.

 

[tep624]

Schiano is a good coach. If Rutgers goes bowling somehow it’ll be a testament to him.

His claim to fame is building up a pariah of a program to .500 on the back of 40 victories against 1AA programs and service academies. He’s about as smoke and mirrors as it gets.

And if you honestly believe he’d ever be a HC at USC I have a few bridges I’d love to sell you.

 

[FloCuse2323]

Jamey Chadwell from Coastal would be a home run hire for us… don’t think he’ll come though

 

[IthacaMatt]

Say we get two completely reasonable (like factual) whistles and we win the game 13-7. Would everyone still be bellyaching here?

How do you feel about a coach who doesn't try to win the game?

 

[IthacaMatt]

I hated that call. Something different needs to be happening by conference play. We hired Dino because he didn't punt there.

We are in Year Six. Why would anything be much different within a few weeks?

 

[cto]

Ranked #14 before Saturday .. and only two games into the season. Just wow

 

[Bayside44]

We are in Year Six. Why would anything be much different within a few weeks?

He'll play a different QB and WRs. This is a very different looking product from previous years so far.

 

[Cuse'91]

Being upstaged by cross-town rival Ucla couldn't have helped.

 

[Cuseregular]

Say we get two completely reasonable (like factual) whistles and we win the game 13-7. Would everyone still be bellyaching here?

I’d still b biotching about the qb position for lack of production when a (most likely) better alternative is not playing as much as he should.

 

[IthacaMatt]

He'll play a different QB and WRs. This is a very different looking product from previous years so far.

I agree that the defense looks good, but there have been flashes of that all along.

He can't coach in terms of an offense, after his "Fast" mantra.
That appears to be his only "trick".

We have had special teams talent of pretty impressive quality over the last several years.
But the offense should not be so consistently clueless, in terms of play calling, in-game adjustments, just having a functional offensive line. It took until year six, and the jury is still out.

He used to be a "riverboat gambler" on 4th downs in his first couple years, and now he is more conservative than Paul Pasqualoni ever was. It's like when Shafer had passed his "Sell By" date. You just knew.

Dino lacks the inspiration and fire to get that swag back.

 

[IthacaMatt]

He'll play a different QB and WRs. This is a very different looking product from previous years so far.

But will he? The defense seems to play a ton of guys. The offense just doesn't seem that way to me. It seems like we run the same guys out there, time after time, whether they are getting the job done or not. We don't seem to play the back-ups nearly as much.

I guess in coach-speak, the justification is that "we have the best chance to win with the more experienced guys" - but in an offense with no playbook* (*supposedly), what is so damn hard about this offense? It's not the zone blocking, that's way simpler to execute than a lot of intricate traps and counters; it's not the same 6 or 8 plays we always call that seem to comprise 85% of our total play calls.

Taking what the defense gives you is hard? Isn't that what players try to do in every sport situation? Find the open spaces, get the defender going one way, and then you go the other.

Can't the QB read where the player is going to be by looking at which way the defender is going? It's the QB's 5th year in the system. If it takes 5 years to learn a system, guess what? That's too damn long!

 

[LaggyJon]

Shows the difference between teams at the top of D1 and where SU is now. USC just fired a guy with an overall winning record 2 games into the year. Our coach is well under .500 in year 6 and just scored 7pts against a bad RU team and we have more then a quarter of the board who think the turnaround is just around the corner.

At this point, I don't know how many people here honestly think the turnaround is gonna happen.

It seems like most posters acknowledge that we've got a tire fire. We're largely arguing over how to feng shui the burning rubber.