VA TECH Post Game

[TinyManInside]

I’m telling you . He made some deal with a genie that affords him the ability to be very good for a finite portion of each game but once it wears off it’s as if he never played basketball. Now the problem is neither he nor the genie controls what segment of the game this will entail.

This is so accurate. You get 7 minutes of great play and 30 minutes of feces… and you never know when the 7 minutes is going to come.

 

[jgeorge322]

JJ’s defense is almost as shameful as his shooting form on his free throws. Just worked all over the court by Young.

 

[dwilmont44]

Jadon Young ABUSES JJ Starling.

There's your YouTube title.

 

[Cusefan0307]

JJ’s defense is almost as shameful as his shooting form on his free throws. Just worked all over the court by Young.

Young came into the game averaging 7ppg on 34% shooting. Absolutely ridiculous when you think about it.

 

[jgeorge322]

Young came into the game averaging 7ppg on 34% shooting. Absolutely ridiculous when you think about it.

JJ was about 4 steps behind him on one screen. Just embarrassed our best player, though maybe that’s Eddie.

 

[MadNY3]

People think I'm crazy, but I suggested—if a new excellent head coach option couldn't be identified and brought in quickly—that we should bring Boeheim back for a year.

• It would give us time to identify a really promising head coach.
• It would give us the best chance to hold onto Kiyan Anthony and others and also to potentially bring in some portal players who want to play under a HOF coach on a one-year run.
• It would generate some excitement in the media and the fan base, specifically next year with Anthony.
• It would be a move with a pre-determined end-date, so it provides some stability even while things are up in the air.

I'm not saying it's a better idea than bringing in a proven coach who is available, but I think it's a better idea than hoping for an incremental improvement with Autry or brining in someone who is a crap shoot just to have someone new here.

btw, there is someone in a position of power in SU athletics who loves this idea (no, it's not JB).

This is amazing.

Bring back someone who never wanted to leave to fix the program that declined for a few years under his watch and that his protege couldn’t fix.

And people would get excited.

Noone in the AD thinks that is a good idea, let alone loves. I promise you.

 

[NKR1978]

People think I'm crazy, but I suggested—if a new excellent head coach option couldn't be identified and brought in quickly—that we should bring Boeheim back for a year.

• It would give us time to identify a really promising head coach.
• It would give us the best chance to hold onto Kiyan Anthony and others and also to potentially bring in some portal players who want to play under a HOF coach on a one-year run.
• It would generate some excitement in the media and the fan base, specifically next year with Anthony.
• It would be a move with a pre-determined end-date, so it provides some stability even while things are up in the air.

I'm not saying it's a better idea than bringing in a proven coach who is available, but I think it's a better idea than hoping for an incremental improvement with Autry or brining in someone who is a crap shoot just to have someone new here.

btw, there is someone in a position of power in SU athletics who loves this idea (no, it's not JB).

Boeheim is the primary reason this program is as bad as it is. He got old and lazy.

 

[FrancoPizza]

My new go to move is dvr game and watch on x3 speed long after game is over. It’s a compromise I’ve worked out with myself.

Our players would certainly look faster.

 

[tbonezone]

Bumbles have more bounce .

 

[Scooch]

Boeheim is the primary reason this program is as bad as it is. He got old and lazy.

Don’t forget stubborn and selfish.

 

[Sherman20]

Terrible excuse today, we were the more talented team today, can't say that every time, but today VA Tech was down their best player, so today we had the most talent on the court. Now JJ didn't play like the best player on the court, but that is different than being the most TALENTED. Today we 1000% lost because of coaching not because of talent.

I don't agree with all the JJ hate. He needs to work way harder and smarter on defense, but I feel like the coaching staff is to blame. They're not teaching him and developing him into a better defensive player. He has the quickness and athleticism. Maybe he just doesn't have the instincts for it, but to me, this is really on our coaching staff. You can teach good defense, positioning, slides, and scheme, but the effort needs to be there, too.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I don't agree with all the JJ hate. He needs to work way harder and smarter on defense, but I feel like the coaching staff is to blame. They're not teaching him and developing him into a better defense. He has the quickness and athleticism. Maybe he just doesn't have the instincts for it, but to me, this is really on our coaching staff. You can teach good defense, positioning, slides, and scheme, but the effort needs to be there, too.

He gets the least out of his athleticism on defense than anyone I can remember. He doesn’t play hard enough either. The raw tools have not equaled production and I wouldn’t bet on it happening in year 4 either. That kid who toasted him was a replacement for a guy who was out.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

His form is exactly the same as mine was when I was in 6th grade.

It’s not so much a shot as it is the result of releasing a coiled spring from a confined space

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I don't agree with all the JJ hate. He needs to work way harder and smarter on defense, but I feel like the coaching staff is to blame. They're not teaching him and developing him into a better defense. He has the quickness and athleticism. Maybe he just doesn't have the instincts for it, but to me, this is really on our coaching staff. You can teach good defense, positioning, slides, and scheme, but the effort needs to be there, too.

So they couldn’t teach defense at ND either ? This guy has no luck

 

[rhcuse]

I don't agree with all the JJ hate. He needs to work way harder and smarter on defense, but I feel like the coaching staff is to blame. They're not teaching him and developing him into a better defense. He has the quickness and athleticism. Maybe he just doesn't have the instincts for it, but to me, this is really on our coaching staff. You can teach good defense, positioning, slides, and scheme, but the effort needs to be there, too.

JJ has been playing bball his whole life. If he cannot play tight m2m just once in a real game then it is not coaching…it is his attitude.

 

[Scooch]

So they couldn’t teach defense at ND either ? This guy has no luck

I blame AAU.

 

[tptcuse]

JJ has been playing bball his whole life. If he cannot play tight m2m just once in a real game then it is not coaching…it is his attitude.

I don't know. The coaches seem to spend all their time telling him he is "one of the best guards in the country." That is all I hear from them. He seems like the opposite of not having a good attitude. He needs someone to teach him to be tougher and give him specific, real, honest coaching. Nobody who is as smart and quick as JJ should play defense the way he does.

 

[SUbear]

I don't know. The coaches seem to spend all their time telling him he is "one of the best guards in the country." That is all I hear from them. He seems like the opposite of not having a good attitude. He needs someone to teach him to be tougher and give him specific, real, honest coaching. Nobody who is as smart and quick as JJ should play defense the way he does.

JJ is a good player but not a franchise player. Our team lacks offensive movement and designed plays. We do not currently have the type of players where you can play isolation ball and expect to win. 90 percent of this years bad performance is because of poor coaching on both offense and defense.
Do not mistake that I am saying we would be a tourny team, we probably would not, however we should have a marginally winning record at the least. This kind of coaching will not get us far no matter how great we recruit via HS or portal.

 

[rhcuse]

I don't know. The coaches seem to spend all their time telling him he is "one of the best guards in the country." That is all I hear from them. He seems like the opposite of not having a good attitude. He needs someone to teach him to be tougher and give him specific, real, honest coaching. Nobody who is as smart and quick as JJ should play defense the way he does.

If you need someone to teach you to be tough, then you by definition are not tough. Toughness is an internal determination to never be out worked or give up.

Yes, coaching can improve techniques which allow you to perform better. But regarding JJ’s proclivity to sag off his guy and be 2 or 3 steps behind lateral movement thus necessitating he go under a screen, to me this shows he is trying to avoid always giving maximum effort. In other words, he chooses not to be tough on defense.

 

[007]

If you need someone to teach you to be tough, then you by definition are not tough. Toughness is an internal determination to never be out worked or give up.

Yes, coaching can improve techniques which allow you to perform better. But regarding JJ’s proclivity to sag off his guy and be 2 or 3 steps behind lateral movement thus necessitating he go under a screen, to me this shows he is trying to avoid always giving maximum effort. In other words, he chooses not to be tough on defense.

Eh, I'm not so sure toughness can't be taught. The military absolutely believes in "effective resiliency training" including training mental, physical, and psychological toughness. We also have a football coach who trains the players in both physical and mental toughness. It can be instilled in basketball, especially on defense. But, I do agree that some people are innately tougher than others.

 

[Scooch]

If you need someone to teach you to be tough, then you by definition are not tough. Toughness is an internal determination to never be out worked or give up.

Yes, coaching can improve techniques which allow you to perform better. But regarding JJ’s proclivity to sag off his guy and be 2 or 3 steps behind lateral movement thus necessitating he go under a screen, to me this shows he is trying to avoid always giving maximum effort. In other words, he chooses not to be tough on defense.

That’s not true at all. Of course toughness can be taught.

I suspect most of us have had a coach, or teacher, that held us to a higher standard than we thought we could achieve. That taught us how to look within ourselves to find that extra something that enables success.

JJ Starling is simply a lousy defender. It’s not a character defect. He just sucks at it.

 

[rocklloyd]

Our players would certainly look faster.

Sadly other team still looks faster

 

[Dave]

It’s a shame anyone had to win.