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"We can't handle Duke"

I don't see what the fuss is about. Sure he didn't have to say it but is he wrong? Does this team have the players to beat that Duke team? Pick any coach you want. It ain't happening. I don't like saying it but I think it is accurate. I think Boeheim has one year left no matter how they do next year.
maybe it's the way he said it?

from my first post in the thread, "matter-of-fact resignation."

He assembled a team, a Syracuse team, that can't compete with a conference foe. And that, apparently, is just that.
 
I don't see what the fuss is about. Sure he didn't have to say it but is he wrong? Does this team have the players to beat that Duke team? Pick any coach you want. It ain't happening. I don't like saying it but I think it is accurate. I think Boeheim has one year left no matter how they do next year.
He picked the players he wanted. He deserves the criticism.
 
JB has had a good run. Get another win tonight or Saturday and leave with your sons and your dignity noone wants to see him coach a team that is below .500 in the ACC.

We can't give JB 2 more years under any circumstances because if we mess up the hire we need to fire that guy in 2 years. Noone wants annual bubble teams we are a top 10 program and the AD needs to act like it or get used to the Dome being empty.
 
It's probably significant when an architect says he designed a building that's expected to fall down. JB built the team. Did he do it with the intention of not hanging with the top teams? Didn't he say something similar when Villanova beat us?
He recruited. He didn't "design" the team. He didn't get the best players. It happens sometimes.

But no one is saying he is incorrect? Does anyone think this SU team can beat Duke. Please come forward if you do.

As I noted, I don't think he should have said it but he's not wrong.
 
He recruited. He didn't "design" the team. He didn't get the best players. It happens sometimes.

But no one is saying he is incorrect? Does anyone think this SU team can beat Duke. Please come forward if you do.

As I noted, I don't think he should have said it but he's not wrong.
Whether it's by design or failure to obtain the necessary talent, it's inadequate. And this isn't a one season aberration.
 
He recruited. He didn't "design" the team. He didn't get the best players. It happens sometimes.

But no one is saying he is incorrect? Does anyone think this SU team can beat Duke. Please come forward if you do.

As I noted, I don't think he should have said it but he's not wrong.
The bigger issue is who he lost to transfer, not who he recruited. If we have last years team outside of Marek and Griffin we are in the top 25.
 
Whether it's by design or failure to obtain the necessary talent, it's inadequate. And this isn't a one season aberration.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with him being right about saying this team can't beat this Duke team.
 
Yes, but that has nothing to do with him being right about saying this team can't beat this Duke team.
He said we can't handle Duke, he's right that we can't handle Duke and that ought to be cause for serious alarm. But it's not, apparently - at least if you judge by his tone, his actions, and the sort of roster he's going to roll with next year.
 
I don't see what the fuss is about. Sure he didn't have to say it but is he wrong? Does this team have the players to beat that Duke team? Pick any coach you want. It ain't happening. I don't like saying it but I think it is accurate. I think Boeheim has one year left no matter how they do next year.
its very hard to say how another coach might have developed these players and what type of play he mightve gotten out of them...its easy to just look at how they have been used in this rigid system and assume a lot from there

I agree that these players coached by boeheim cannot handle duke

but im not fully convinced there isnt a coach out there who couldve doen something vs duke with these players.

beat UVA by 1, lost to folrida state, lost to miami...duke is good but not a juggernaut

the way boeheim plays - his system with these players? totally...no chance ...vs duke

jb needs to be able to switch up his system more than he does in cases where the opponent is primed to destroy his scheme.
 
Yes, but that has nothing to do with him being right about saying this team can't beat this Duke team.
Did anybody say he wasn't right? The point is that he is resolved to it. It's a statement about the current state of the program. This is not a program that should ever say we CAN'T beat an opponent.
 
Did anybody say he wasn't right? The point is that he is resolved to it. It's a statement about the current state of the program. This is not a program that should ever say we CAN'T beat an opponent.
I don't get that he was "resolved to it" as if he doesn't care of won't try to better it for next year with new players. It would be silly to think that he is ok with it and not intent on having a more Cuse year next year. He just can't do much this year. That's all I hear.
 
I don't get that he was "resolved to it" as if he doesn't care of won't try to better it for next year with new players. It would be silly to think that he is ok with it and not intent on having a more Cuse year next year. He just can't do much this year. That's all I hear.
The problem is that he doesn't seem to recognize the problem or is too stubborn ro address it. You said earlier he didn't choose the roster. When you aren't putting forth the same effort as your competitors on the recruiting trail (as has been stated by numerous well connected people) there are two reasons. You're ok with what you have and the results you get (resolved to it) or you're not capable of doing the job.
 
maybe it's the way he said it?

from my first post in the thread, "matter-of-fact resignation."

He assembled a team, a Syracuse team, that can't compete with a conference foe. And that, apparently, is just that.

He also re-iterated the Duke thing, again, last night in the presser.
 
The problem is that he doesn't seem to recognize the problem or is too stubborn ro address it. You said earlier he didn't choose the roster. When you aren't putting forth the same effort as your competitors on the recruiting trail (as has been stated by numerous well connected people) there are two reasons. You're ok with what you have and the results you get (resolved to it) or you're not capable of doing the job.
Of course he recognizes it.

I said he didn't select the roster. Like all coaches, you recruit kids then some of those kids select you.

Saying he isn't putting forth the effort needed has no basis in any fact. It's your perception. The guy has been doing this for many years. He knows exactly where he is... doesn't mean he is going to tell us all about it in press conferences.
 
Of course he recognizes it.

I said he didn't select the roster. Like all coaches, you recruit kids then some of those kids select you.

Saying he isn't putting forth the effort needed has no basis in any fact. It's your perception. The guy has been doing this for many years. He knows exactly where he is... doesn't mean he is going to tell us all about it in press conferences.
Ugh. You're entitled to your take, but it misses the mark.
 
Of course he recognizes it.

I said he didn't select the roster. Like all coaches, you recruit kids then some of those kids select you.

Saying he isn't putting forth the effort needed has no basis in any fact. It's your perception. The guy has been doing this for many years. He knows exactly where he is... doesn't mean he is going to tell us all about it in press conferences.
It's not my perception. There are some well connected recruiting insiders on here that for a few years have stated he isn't putting forth the effort he used to. He's not on the road as much. He's not going to as many tournaments.
 

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