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We should’ve won today

I guess I’m failing to see the point. We built a crazy athletic and talented team with the money that Melo clearly gave us. I’m glad we played well, but we blew it on late game coaching failures and missing free throws. Someone tell me how I’m the bad guy here.
What late game coaching failures are we talking about here? We were down 11 with like 3 minutes left and got it to OT. Are we talking about Kyle not getting a shot off at the end of regulation? Because I liked that idea and to be honest thought it could’ve been a foul (but I get the refs swallowing the whistle there).

Seems to me he pushed the right buttons down the stretch.
 
What late game coaching failures are we talking about here? We were down 11 with like 3 minutes left and got it to OT. Are we talking about Kyle not getting a shot off at the end of regulation? Because I liked that idea and to be honest thought it could’ve been a foul (but I get the refs swallowing the whistle there).

Seems to me he pushed the right buttons down the stretch.
I mean, we bucked up a 3 out of the time out 3 yards off the line down 4 with 17 seconds left. The look on Reds face made it appear like that was the play. That seemed like a pretty big whiff.
 
How many titles did we win during that Elite period? As many as Duke, UConn, Kansas, NC..? They were elite, we had a few good years during that period, but not Elite.
What does that have to do with anything. We had two one seeds where one faced an injury and another a suspension. The FF team during that period won 30 games and lost on a BS charge call. We basically were in the top 10 weekly for 5 years in a row.

By this logic Houston is not an elite program right now.
 
I can’t explain the free throws. We are 1000x better than last year. I am not a fire the coach guy. But, yes, I do think we’re at least equally as talented as Houston and I do think coaching had a large negative impact on the game. Free throws aside, we needed some set plays to get us points when we needed them. We did not run anything. The end of regulation just wasn’t good. Neither was the end of the first half. Neither was the long three at the end of OT. Again, free throws aside, you just can’t win meaningful games this way. Can we beat middling ACC teams, yes, but as a Syracuse fan who wants to see the program back, we need to win important games. Otherwise, we’re just back to going nowhere fast
I’m so sick of these stupid posts. Autry has done an excellent job of changing the style and energizing the defense. We run tons of sets and got a ton of great looks against the best defensive team in the country. We shot it poorly except for Betsey, missed a record amount of free throws and still were right there to beat #2. Yet still people want to harp on the coach. The hate just dumbfounds me.
 
Dude, 11 years ago we were ranking #1 in week 16 . The year before that we were in the Final 4. The year before that were in the Elite 8. What are you talking about?

Edit: the year before that we were in the round of 32, the year before that we were in the sweet 16 for the second year in a row. I kinda feel like people are forgetting this.
Yeah.. That was a really good cycle.. Elite teams, reload year after year, decade after decade and win titles. We haven't been doing that.. Dayton had good teams then as well, wouldn't call them Elite.
 
I mean, we bucked up a 3 out of the time out 3 yards off the line down 4 with 17 seconds left. The look on Reds face made it appear like that was the play. That seemed like a pretty big whiff.
So all these angry posts are about one shot (which analytically you want a 3 there) in a 45 minute game? I just want to be sure what we’re complaining about here
 
And down 4* out of a timeout we shot a 3 3 feet off the arc with 17 seconds left.

I’m not saying we played poorly. We have some of the best players in the country. I’m saying Red Autry is a bad coach.

Edit: damn typos.
That was not the play we drew up. Also, I think the timeout came before George inexplicably fouled the Houston player 40 feet from the hoop. Which is on George.
 
I guess I’m failing to see the point. We built a crazy athletic and talented team with the money that Melo clearly gave us. I’m glad we played well, but we blew it on late game coaching failures and missing free throws. Someone tell me how I’m the bad guy here.
You’re not a bad guy. You just know nothing about basketball. No crime there.
 
Yeah.. That was a really good cycle.. Elite teams, reload year after year, decade after decade and win titles. We haven't been doing that.. Dayton had good teams then as well, wouldn't call them Elite.
Oh my god, you people are impossible. From 2012 to 2016 we had a first round pick every year. We went to the final 4 again on a surprise run in 2016.

By your definition we’ve never been elite. So pick whatever adjective you’d like to describe it. We need to get back there.
 
They played their hearts out today congrats to coach Autry who now has the team that will be in March
Not if we don’t close out ranked wins. And now every game we are up in, teams will be fouling to put us at the line. Can’t win games if you can’t make FTs
 
You’re not a bad guy. You just know nothing about basketball. No crime there.
Yeah, well you know, I mean, that’s just like, uh, your opinion, man.

Enjoy your consolation prize. Here’s hoping we execute against Kansas instead of falling apart.
 
Used to be an elite basketball school was like 20 years ago. Times have changed. If red doesn’t make the tourney, then he probably deserves to go and will be gone most likely. But this team will be really good next year too… kingz will get another year too. They have a large amount of NIL money for next year too. The trajectory is upward right now which we haven’t seen in a while and I know it’s hard to please everyone bc Cuse has stunk for a long time, but this was a step in right direction
We had a couple good seasons 10 years ago, but we haven't been elite for 20+ years.. Dude, enjoy the win, the season.. can't believe you're spending this much time bashing the Coach right now.
20 years ago we won the national title. Our second golden age from 2008-2016 (with two #1 seeds, a number 1 ranking, two Final Fours, an Elite Eight and two Sweet 16s) was only coming to an end 10 years ago. We were elite then.

Also, we’ve stunk (aka not made the tourney) for four years, that’s not really a long time in the grand scheme (unless you’re in your 20s) but in Syracuse’s storied history it feel like an eternity, I’ll give you that. Before that, from 2017-2021 we were more a fringey NCAA tourney program, but still made two Sweet 16s and three NCAA tourneys.
 
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Jesus Christ people. Yes, we now—more or less—pay the players directly for playing without media appearances. However, you’re seriously telling me that Melo had nothing to do with the presence of his son at this school or for the money that stood to make both of them? How does everybody tie their shoes in the morning?
Melo said that Kiyan was not given a bag to come to SU. Kiyan just a big NIL deal today from NIKE along with the Boozer twins and Strong from UCONN. It’s his third big national NIL deal.
 
I guess I’m failing to see the point. We built a crazy athletic and talented team with the money that Melo clearly gave us. I’m glad we played well, but we blew it on late game coaching failures and missing free throws. Someone tell me how I’m the bad guy here.
Your not the bad guy just a guy that doesn’t understand getting a team to play hard against a team that plays harder than any in D1 is outstanding coach. Most team fold against Houston. Tonight we did not!
 
Jim would draw up a final play
Yeah thats whete we lost game. Red went to his style of play which was wing it and Nate doesnt have that ability as seen bye his pass down low to kyle ir his late 3 ptr th a t wasnt close.
 
Oh my god, you people are impossible. From 2012 to 2016 we had a first round pick every year. We went to the final 4 again on a surprise run in 2016.

By your definition we’ve never been elite. So pick whatever adjective you’d like to describe it. We need to get back there.
Aright man... I'm gonna focus on tonight and now... Not debating with you about 15 years ago FCOL.
 
Yeah, well you know, I mean, that’s just like, uh, your opinion, man.

Enjoy your consolation prize. Here’s hoping we execute against Kansas instead of falling apart.
Yes, by all means let’s not fall apart like we did tonight with our 11-0 run to tie the game. You know, like,I mean,uh ,where I’m coming from .
 
Yeah thats whete we lost game. Red went to his style of play which was wing it and Nate doesnt have that ability as seen bye his pass down low to kyle ir his late 3 ptr th a t wasnt close.
can we please stop acting like kicking it inside to your center 1 foot from the basket for a relatively high percentage shot is a bad idea, yeah it got blocked, he also probably got fouled, but the idea there is solid and better than chucking some mid-range or 3 there.
 
The 3rd place game would be teams 3 and 4 playing it out. That doesn't mean that there's a semifinals round before the finals round.
You are correct. Everyone only plays 3 games. Actually top 14 will finish playing on Nov 26th and go home. Only the bottom four will stay in LV and play on Thanksgiving Day.
 
Jesus Christ people. Yes, we now—more or less—pay the players directly for playing without media appearances. However, you’re seriously telling me that Melo had nothing to do with the presence of his son at this school or for the money that stood to make both of them? How does everybody tie their shoes in the morning?
Melo isn’t really funding the team’s NIL though. That’s what you implied. Multiple posters on here have said as much during the offseason. You don’t know what you don’t know, buddy.
 
Yeah thats whete we lost game. Red went to his style of play which was wing it and Nate doesnt have that ability as seen bye his pass down low to kyle ir his late 3 ptr th a t wasnt close.

The play we ran is how you have to attack that Houston defense in that situation. They will not help on the drive and they will attack any ball screen to force a turnover. The timing was just off a bit plus Houston fouled like they did a number of times in key moments not called.
 
- I get the frustration - it felt like we had this..biggest regular season win since 2019. If we bring this level of effort and energy against every top 100 we play, we will make the tournament easily. We won’t play a team better than Houston all year except Duke. If tonight was indicative of what Red is building we should see some big wins .. hopefully starting tomorrow .

- I like Kiyan. I think he competes and the offensive game will be special. He’s a willing passer and the IQ is definitely there. The shooting will come. But man … he looks slow footed, especially on defense. He tries and he has that nice deflection on the press … but he looks a step slower than the other guards. Houston is obviously elite athletically, and he didn’t lack confidence - but it was noticeable
 
- I get the frustration - it felt like we had this..biggest regular season win since 2019. If we bring this level of effort and energy against every top 100 we play, we will make the tournament easily. We won’t play a team better than Houston all year except Duke. If tonight was indicative of what Red is building we should see some big wins .. hopefully starting tomorrow .

- I like Kiyan. I think he competes and the offensive game will be special. He’s a willing passer and the IQ is definitely there. The shooting will come. But man … he looks slow footed, especially on defense. He tries and he has that nice deflection on the press … but he looks a step slower than the other guards. Houston is obviously elite athletically, and he didn’t lack confidence - but it was noticeable
The KU game tomorrow is really important and it’s very winnable. Kiyan is going to be quite good, he looks like a freshman now. Not Cooper Flagg freshman of course, a typical but talented freshman. Or something.
 

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