Weitsman comments | Page 5 | Syracusefan.com
.

Weitsman comments

Status
Not open for further replies.
AZOrange said:
Career earnings and current day cash flow are very different things
Expand...
Fair point and I am not going to get into the weeds analyzing his actual annual income or how compounded growth on a investment strategy he would have likely followed given he is an intelligent and educated guy. Suffice to say he more than had the means during his career and he likely more than had the means post career to donate proportionally.
So the question still stands has he ever donated and if not why is he spearheading this fight?
 
Scooch said:
His team runs his account straight outta the "rise & grind" playbook of every bro-dude who aspires to be an entrepreneur influencer.
Expand...

He IS a bro-dude entrepreneur influencer.

My personal opinion after reading the back and forth on this (and BIG caveat - I may very well be wrong)...

KS and Lallys (and maybe other BOT members) do not want a high profile influencer "bro" in the powerbroker room for NIL donations.

They see what he does and how he operates as low-brow and not in the best interest of the school's academic PR image.

Is there a valid concern about how AW operates from an school image perspective? Sure.

Does shutting the door completely on AW with board members spouting off publicly about their disdain for him also come off as elitist. You bet.

At the end of the day, it's part of the chancellor's leadership job to wrangle the whale donor egos and get people rowing in the same direction... or you draw a line in the sand and say no.

We appear to have done the latter and it simply has not been handled well.

You can't sweep a guy with 17.5 million social media followers under the rug without backlash and it's naive to think you could.

If there is a compromise to be made, it starts first with being willing to compromise to get something done.

It will be intersting to hear dasher 's full story, as it sounds like there was zero interest in compromise.
 
Last edited:
If I, a townie with a modest income, have provided more donations to SU athletics than wealthy basketball alums; then I don't want to hear them complaining about lack of financial support to the program.
 
whobut03 said:
I've dealt with Adam on a personal/business level. I'll keep my comments to myself.

What gets lost in ALL of this is, if Adam truly cared about the University and not clout, he was MORE than welcome to give to Orange United or any NIL collective. He chose not to. That should tell you all you need to know about his motives.

What does Fran Brown say? Oh yeah, NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE "S".

Move on, put this to bed. The university and Adam will NEVER happen. And you know what, we'll be just fine.
Expand...
But why should we care about Adam’s clout? If he donates or does something to contribute and make a positive impact then who cares how Adam benefits!
 
kingtidge said:
He IS a bro-dude entrepreneur influencer.

My personal opinion after reading the back and forth on this (and BIG caveat - I my very well be wrong)...

KS and Lallys (and maybe other BOT members) do not want a high profile influencer "bro" in the powerbroker room for NIL donations.

They see what he does and how he operates as low-brow and not in the best interest of the school's academic PR image.

Is there a valid concern about how AW operates from an school image perspective? Sure.

Does shutting the door completely on AW with board members spouting off publicly about their disdain for him also come off as elitist. You bet.

At the end of the day, it's part of the chancellor's leadership job to wrangle the whale donor egos and get peole rowing in the same direction... or you draw a line in the sand and say no.

We appear to have done the latter and it simply has not been handled well.

You can't sweep a guy with 17.5 million social media followers under the rug without backlash and it's naive to think you could.

If there is a compromise to be made, it starts first with being willing to compromise to get something done.

It will be intersting to hear dasher 's full story, as it sounds like there was zero interest in compromise.
Expand...
Hey, if AW wanted to donate to the NIL collective he can. He could do it today if he wanted too. Just write a check, designate it to hoops and be done. It’s really that simple.
 
kingtidge said:
He IS a bro-dude entrepreneur influencer.

My personal opinion after reading the back and forth on this (and BIG caveat - I my very well be wrong)...

KS and Lallys (and maybe other BOT members) do not want a high profile influencer "bro" in the powerbroker room for NIL donations.

They see what he does and how he operates as low-brow and not in the best interest of the school's academic PR image.

Is there a valid concern about how AW operates from an school image perspective? Sure.

Does shutting the door completely on AW with board members spouting off publicly about their disdain for him also come off as elitist. You bet.

At the end of the day, it's part of the chancellor's leadership job to wrangle the whale donor egos and get peole rowing in the same direction... or you draw a line in the sand and say no.

We appear to have done the latter and it simply has not been handled well.

You can't sweep a guy with 17.5 million social media followers under the rug without backlash and it's naive to think you could.

If there is a compromise to be made, it starts first with being willing to compromise to get something done.

It will be intersting to hear dasher 's full story, as it sounds like there was zero interest in compromise.
Expand...
I don't think it's elitism from the other big donors. I think they resent that Weitsman made a huge show without actually giving much money.

Again, after asking people here over and over what AW did, all they could come up with is the tricked out Dome suite and some NIL deals to a handful of non-revenue athletes. That's it.

He can spend his money however he wants, but nearly all of the money he spent regarding SU didn't actually do much for SU. It did much more for the brand of Adam Weitsman.

If the guy wants to dump a couple million a year into our basketball NIL fund, I'm all for it. If he wants to slap his name on a new weight room or practice facility, then hear hear.

But there's been precious little evidence that he wants to do stuff like that.
 
Just polling the fanbase. Are we ok with AW becoming a Mike Repole situation where he basically sits on the bench with the players and gets in the handshake line at the end of games? Also The Head Coach constantly checking in with him to make sure he's ok with his roster moves and how the team is doing.

Personally I think what's happening with Repole and Pitino down there is as creepy as it gets and cringe but they're winning and I'm real sick of losing.
 
oldpinepoint said:
I wouldn’t say his loyalty is only to himself, but being an Alumni probably has a great vested interest. I happen to think AW does a lot of good, but is also incredibly self serving
Expand...

But, but, wait, what!? Wasn't it just a few days ago here in another NIL type thread how one getting an education is self-serving. And, moreover, how pretty much everything one does can be construed as same? So, what's the big deal? ;):)
 
Red2003 said:
Just polling the fanbase. Are we ok with AW becoming a Mike Repole situation where he basically sits on the bench with the players and gets in the handshake line at the end of games? Also The Head Coach constantly checking in with him to make sure he's ok with his roster moves and how the team is doing.

Personally I think what's happening with Repole and Pitino down there is as creepy as it gets and cringe but they're winning and I'm real sick of losing.
Expand...
Rick Pitino would do something creepy? Noooooo.
 
Red2003 said:
Just polling the fanbase. Are we ok with AW becoming a Mike Repole situation where he basically sits on the bench with the players and gets in the handshake line at the end of games? Also The Head Coach constantly checking in with him to make sure he's ok with his roster moves and how the team is doing.

Personally I think what's happening with Repole and Pitino down there is as creepy as it gets and cringe but they're winning and I'm real sick of losing.
Expand...
Honestly, hell no. So basically instead of Repole owning an NBA team, he decided to buy the St Johns Men’s Basketball team. Sorry but Syracuse basketball isn’t for sale. It’s the Universities team, not one individuals team to buy and tell the coach what to do roster wise. That’s what the coach gets paid to do. Now if AW wants to contribute and donate like every one else, sure. Doesn’t mean he gets to own the team. Sure if you donate a lot of money you should get more access to the team and program than others. But to basically own a college basketball team. Hell no.
 
Red2003 said:
Just polling the fanbase. Are we ok with AW becoming a Mike Repole situation where he basically sits on the bench with the players and gets in the handshake line at the end of games? The Head Coach is constantly checking in with him to make sure he's ok.

Personally I think what's happening with Repole and Pitino down there is as creepy as it gets and cringe but they're winning and I'm real sick of losing.
Expand...
My personal thought is college hoops in general is a huge mess and in worse shape than football. I like hoops but I’m a FB guy first and think the majority of resources should go there over the next 5 years until the next round of conference realignment happens. The difference between football and hoops at SU is night and day.

Im not in favor of having someone like repole on the bench. It reals of narcissism. If we think that our issues with Hoops can be fixed by brining in just AW we are in trouble.
 
Scooch said:
I don't think it's elitism from the other big donors. I think they resent that Weitsman made a huge show without actually giving much money.

Again, after asking people here over and over what AW did, all they could come up with is the tricked out Dome suite and some NIL deals to a handful of non-revenue athletes. That's it.

He can spend his money however he wants, but nearly all of the money he spent regarding SU didn't actually do much for SU. It did much more for the brand of Adam Weitsman.

If the guy wants to dump a couple million a year into our basketball NIL fund, I'm all for it. If he wants to slap his name on a new weight room or practice facility, then hear hear.

But there's been precious little evidence that he wants to do stuff like that.
Expand...

Agreed - but I also think he was shut down when NIL was just starting and before he could really get going in that regard, no?
 
Lukeyloo said:
If I, a townie with a modest income, have provided more donations to SU athletics than wealthy basketball alums; then I don't want to hear them complaining about lack of financial support to the program.
Expand...
I wonder if former players who competed in the pre-NIL era may not exactly love the idea of giving some of whatever they earned to today’s players. Former players I’ve heard speak on it seem to encourage the younge guys to get what they can, but that may only apply to OPM. Who knows?
 
Idk how this all works but with laurelee saying there’s donors that are making 7 and 8 digit contributions where is this money being allocated cause it seems that we’d have a lot of money to use so where is this money?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

T
    • Like
Stat projections
Replies
0
Views
274
Ttk.gman2
T
T
    • Like
freshmen impact players
2
Replies
32
Views
4K
Ttk.gman2
T
Eric15
    • Like
Thread for folks going to Atlanta
3 4 5
Replies
108
Views
9K
Moontan
Moontan
NKR1978
    • Like
One little, one medium and one big thing I wish SU would do
Replies
6
Views
1K
SUfaninAZ
SUfaninAZ

Forum statistics

Threads
174,167
Messages
5,138,664
Members
6,109
Latest member
ISLlaxfan

Share this page

Online statistics

Members online
195
Guests online
1,780
Total visitors
1,975
Totals may include hidden visitors.


...
Top Bottom