ElwoodJBlues
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Ah got it. Didn’t add those two up.Yes.
That's why Jake referred to hiring a "bench" coach.
Ah got it. Didn’t add those two up.Yes.
That's why Jake referred to hiring a "bench" coach.
I would take a pass on Drew Valentine as he still needs to proof he can win with his recruits. Dead last in the A-10 does no get me excited. He might be available for an interview if they get bounced by St. Joe's tomorrow. I've watched them several times and this years team is a turnover machine.Sean Miller, Pitino, Jerome Tang, Dennis Gates, Drew Valentine, Micah Shrewsberry, Niko Medved (Colorado State), Grant McCasland, Boynton (it’s hard to recruit to Oklahoma State…he might do well here.).
Agreed, might want to wait as players off tournament teams probably wont enter until their season is over.One year does not make nor break a program. Isn't it more important to get the right HC, than hit the portal in March vs April?
Kids aren't going to sign with another school the day of. There will be plenty of kids available in April. Especially kids who don't want to announce until their season is over.
It would be irresponsible to just grab the best 2-3 kids on March 13, when better kids may be available in April.
Sean Miller, Pitino, Jerome Tang, Dennis Gates, Drew Valentine, Micah Shrewsberry, Niko Medved (Colorado State), Grant McCasland, Boynton (it’s hard to recruit to Oklahoma State).
Are they hot?What if his daughters sit behind him?
This is important information.the players love Red. he’s our best hope for Judah coming back.
Would the question have been asked otherwise? No, it would not.Are they hot?
Women are not objects FWIW.Are they hot?
yes, and to be clear, I have zero info on Judah’s return probability. But Red would certainly help.This is important information.
If Red is HC then hopefully we can get Hop (assuming he gets fired at UW) to come back or add Mike Brey to the bench.
That depends on who the next HC is.It's a fair point. I'd say I put more faith in guys getting better than I do in us pulling better dudes from the portal.
Marrone stepped down in January. Most ADs are going to stay in-house when the coach leaves that late.I understand this is not apples to apples. But does anyone remember when we hired SS because we tried to keep continuity instead of doing a real national search?
If Jim stepped down several years ago before these past 2 seasons (rock bottom) then I would still be against it because I want a national search, Best candidate possible. But it would be understandable. Now we are at Rock bottom giving a coach who has never been a coach before reigns to a top 10 program in a bad situarion. Now, if Red fails how many years does he get to turn it around? If he flames out after 3-4 years we are now looking at 13 years of poor performance. That becomes even harder to overcome and attract a big time coach.
I think this would be a terrible decision to hand the program over to an inexperienced coach and could set us back a decade, not just years.
Gate, Traynor, FLJ all have something in common. They were all head coaches before coming back home to Syracuse. Gate has been training for years in the wings to become a head coach for the men and has the clout to back it up. Red is nothing like gate in that sense. This would be unprecedented to me to give the program to a guy that has only been an assistant coach at Va tech and the worst part of Jim’s Syracuse career. What exactly did he do as an assistant? Recruiting has never been worse and the skill level on the court has never been worse. I am not saying that is all his fault. But I’m not exactly sure what he has actually done to get this position other than play at Syracuse University? Who cares about keeping the team together or what Jim wanted. Forgoing a national search could be devastating to this program.
PS. I hope I’m wrong. Just don’t see the positives of hiring red without any type of search.
I’ll be surprised. Too many distractions at the moment.were beating Wake
I knew what you were asking before I clicked.Are they hot?
I understand this is not apples to apples. But does anyone remember when we hired SS because we tried to keep continuity instead of doing a real national search?
If Jim stepped down several years ago before these past 2 seasons (rock bottom) then I would still be against it because I want a national search, Best candidate possible. But it would be understandable. Now we are at Rock bottom giving a coach who has never been a coach before reigns to a top 10 program in a bad situarion. Now, if Red fails how many years does he get to turn it around? If he flames out after 3-4 years we are now looking at 13 years of poor performance. That becomes even harder to overcome and attract a big time coach.
I think this would be a terrible decision to hand the program over to an inexperienced coach and could set us back a decade, not just years.
Gate, Traynor, FLJ all have something in common. They were all head coaches before coming back home to Syracuse. Gate has been training for years in the wings to become a head coach for the men and has the clout to back it up. Red is nothing like gate in that sense. This would be unprecedented to me to give the program to a guy that has only been an assistant coach at Va tech and the worst part of Jim’s Syracuse career. What exactly did he do as an assistant? Recruiting has never been worse and the skill level on the court has never been worse. I am not saying that is all his fault. But I’m not exactly sure what he has actually done to get this position other than play at Syracuse University? Who cares about keeping the team together or what Jim wanted. Forgoing a national search could be devastating to this program.
PS. I hope I’m wrong. Just don’t see the positives of hiring red without any type of search.
I’d guess in 2 years. There won’t be enough patience for 3-4 years.Agreed. If Red doesn’t work out, we know the next search will 100% be external and hopefully at that time, there is a more natural pairing out there. I think most can admit there wasn’t an “obvious” candidate out there for us.
If Red works, great. If not, it’ll be a national search in 3-4 years
Red doesn’t carry a room well. Kind of well known.The biggest thing for me with Red is that I feel like we know so little. What is his impact on the existing kids, how is he with the press and the community? What is his approach? Gerry has been out there more on podcasts and radio shows where as Red feels like an unknown. I also will say that those things don't make a good coach or program builder either so... with so little time I'm going with the flow hoping those here advocating so much for Red.. are right.
Anybody think they don’t love Gerry?This is important information.
But he’ll need a talented two guard beside him if he returns. If it’s not Joe, we’ll need to strike it in the portal.Jake specifically said that Benny and Bell transferring was simply his speculation. We really have no idea who might come back. I gotta believe that if Judah doesn’t turn pro, he will be back playing for Red.
Red doesn’t carry a room well. Kind of well known.