What people calling for Carney are really saying

[Millhouse]

thank you for putting into way too many words all the things none of us were thinking

 

[swish7]

What's a coffin throw?

When you either overthrow or take too long to throw or throw too slow, putting a receiver in a dangerous position over the middle, and giving the D too much time to react, leading to big hits on prone receivers & injuries

 

[OttoinGrotto]

thank you for putting into way too many words all the things none of us were thinking

 

[Crusty]

Everyone said Justin Lamson was good and he transferred to Stanford and he started one game then transferred to Montana State. You just never know.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Barry Baker.

Game. Set. Match.

 

[JKinUtah]

Everyone said Justin Lamson was good and he transferred to Stanford and he started one game then transferred to Montana State. You just never know.

Most of this board never knows

 

[AngryOtto]

Most of this board never knows

Agree. Fans it’s just speculation. However we have seen Ricky and he is not doing good so far. Fans just want to win and hope maybe someone else can be effective to win games.

 

[Scooch]

Most of this board never knows

In fairness, that applies to many of our past head coaches as well.

 

[Chip]

1) When people say that it can’t get any worse… nonsense, it can ALWAYS get worse. It’s entirely possible that Carney is completely incapable of running an offense against a P4 defense.

2) When people say that if you bench Collins then you can’t bring him back to play… nonsense, this sort of thing happens all the time. Sometimes it’s actually helpful for a guy to sit and watch and relax. That approach worked with Troy Nunes.

3) I’m really not sure it matters all that much in the grand scheme of this season. We likely have 2 winnable games left on the schedule, and we’ll win them with defense and a running game regardless of who’s under center.

Funny you should mention Nunes. I kept thinking that if we play Carney, it will feel like Nunes vs RJ all over again. The quicker smaller guy with the weaker arm** vs the slower bigger guy with the stronger arm.

** I don't know anything about Carney's arm strength yet.

 

[Finwad32]

I would like to see Carney. But yesterday wasn’t the time nor place. And it does not necessarily need to be a wholesale switch.

 

[baggerbob]

I would like to see Carney. But yesterday wasn’t the time nor place. And it does not necessarily need to be a wholesale switch.

Thinking realistically if they hadn't bought in Steve we would be 1-5 and in ESPN's bottom 10. That's how bad Rickie has been.

 

[anomander]

I think the biggest tell is the body language of the players. Obvious conclusion is they see this all the time and insist on going this route. At least with Carney he has the threat of using bis legs. That in itself should be enough to at least try and make a change.

 

[dan7800]

Collins hasn't been great by any means, but remember that unless your QB is Josh Allen-like the most popular guy in town is QB#2

 

[texascpa]

Maybe we can go two back sets, and run "option" since it is kinda in our play book. We have the inside zone runs and the swing passes to the RBs. RPO that stuff all day since it is safe.

BTW where are the RB passes this year?

Collins had Willis for a TD but threw it to the wrong shoulder and way off mark. So, like any other pass, Collins can't hit it.

 

[Archbold44]

Collins had Willis for a TD but threw it to the wrong shoulder and way off mark. So, like any other pass, Collins can't hit it.

Why was it the wrong shoulder? Do you know the route? I have never seen a RB on a screen looking for the throw facing the backfield...usually, they are stationary. And if it is a wheel route, usually they curl downfield to catch the pass with momentum into the end zone. Given the number of drops by Willis and his inability to hit the hole hard all game... and Nixon being the better receiving RB by far... don't be too sure about that one.

 

[XC Cuse]

Why was it the wrong shoulder? Do you know the route? I have never seen a RB on a screen looking for the throw facing the backfield...usually, they are stationary. And if it is a wheel route, usually they curl downfield to catch the pass with momentum into the end zone. Given the number of drops by Willis and his inability to hit the hole hard all game... and Nixon being the better receiving RB by far... don't be too sure about that one.

He missed Willis by a mile. He was wide open in the flat. Anyone with eyes could see Collins missed

 

[RedtheGOB]

1) When people say that it can’t get any worse… nonsense, it can ALWAYS get worse. It’s entirely possible that Carney is completely incapable of running an offense against a P4 defense.

2) When people say that if you bench Collins then you can’t bring him back to play… nonsense, this sort of thing happens all the time. Sometimes it’s actually helpful for a guy to sit and watch and relax. That approach worked with Troy Nunes.

3) I’m really not sure it matters all that much in the grand scheme of this season. We likely have 2 winnable games left on the schedule, and we’ll win them with defense and a running game regardless of who’s under center.

This is the post. We're arguing over 7 wins or 5 wins in my opinion too. Yea it matters for the team and culture and fanbase but it does not matter nearly as much for next year as people are blowing this up.

We have our QB1 and there will be huge upside and hype going into next year. I don't think there is any world where Rickie stays here anyway.

I'm less interested in the Who right now and more interested if the coaching staff can get on the same page. We are playing this middle ground of not committing to the run but then telling the team we're going to have a balanced offense. Then they see Rickie pass 45 times and run the ball 10 times. Whole offense and team is confused...

I need to watch the last 2 weeks again but Nixon seems to be too willing to allow the defense to dictate his playcalling. They leave our playmakers with matchup issues to goad us into passing but Rickie can't make those plays like his 2 predecessors.

Over the last 2 weeks 4 interceptions and 13 pass deflections + 3 sacks. He threw the ball 96 times. So over 20% of his throws are big plays for the defense that just give them momentum and deflate our team.