When was the last time Syracuse averaged 70% from FT

[cusetown1]

Orangeyes I need your help on this one.

 

[pfister1]

According to ESPN.com

2006-07 .695
2002-03 .694

stats don't go further back than 2001-02 on the site.

 

[OttoMets]

2000-2001, .715 http://suathletics.com/sports/2002/11/22/2000-01stats.aspx?id=1265

2006-2007 and 2002-2003 were close, with .695 and .694, respectively. Most of our teams in recent history have been horrid from the line, though.

 

[cusetown1]

thanks guys.

 

[dollarbill44]

I think some of our worst teams had some of our better FT %s.

 

[OttoMets]

SUAthletics stats only go back through 1983-1984.

Over 70%:
2000 .705
1996 .705
1994 .715
1985 .715
1984 .751

Worst during that stretch: .600 in 1988. That one's especially galling; we lost nine games that year, and eight of those were by four points or fewer. Eight losses by a total of 13 points. Free-throw shooting was the difference between a great year (and a certain one seed) and a forgettable one.

 

[asj410]

The SU Athletics website has us at 69.8% through 26 games this season, and...

2010-11: 66.5%
2009-10: 67.7%
2008-09: 64.5%
2007-08: 66.8%
2006-07: 69.5%
2005-06: 64.3%
2004-05: 66.7%
2003-04: 64.3%
2002-03: 69.4%
2001-02: 65.0%
2000-01: 71.5% <---- The last time we shot at least 70% at the line for the season.
1999-00: 70.5%
1998-99: 66.3%
1997-98: 67.6%
1996-97: 64.2%
1995-96: 70.5%
1994-95: 66.2%
1993-94: 71.5%
1992-93: 68.6%
1991-92: 68.5%
1990-91: 64.5%
1989-90: 64.7%
1988-89: 61.1%
1987-88: 60.0% (OUCH!)
1986-87: 65.0%

It goes further back than that, but that's about all the effort I felt like putting into this...lol.

 

[CusefanATL]

1987... nuff said.

smart should have never been in position to hit a game winner.

 

[Jasoncuse]

It's nice having pretty much every guy on the floor capable of knocking down their FT's and no real stinker (Onuaku, Rick, Terrence Roberts, etc). With Fab, Keita and Xmas all over 60%, despite somewhat limited attempts, we see a much higher success rate. It's shocking how bad Scoop has been and how much better Dion could be.

Is it me, or does it seem we aren't getting to the line nearly as much as we usually do this year? I wish there was a way to separate FTA's under 4 minutes to compare to prior years.
Even then, we're attempting 18.7 FT's per game this year. That's definitely a drop over prior years:
2011: 20.4 FTA per game
2010: 21.3 FTA's
2009: 23.3 FTA's
2008: 24.9 FTA's
2007: 24.3 FTA's

Kind of crazy that our attempts have fallen each of the past 5 years. I think we're seeing a lot more jump shooting and maybe fewer guards driving all the way to the rim for trips to the line. Maybe OREB's are down? Anybody have an answer for the declining attempts per game?

Also, Joseph is driving a lot less this year. Last year, he average 5.5 FTA's per game, this year it's around 4 per game. The way he's been playing over the past week, he's going to start getting more driving opportunities if he keeps knocking down jumpers.

 

[Marsh01]

1987... nuff said.

smart should have never been in position to hit a game winner.

Actually for the NC game year of 1987 we shot 65% which was about average. The following year was 60%.

 

[Rocco]

I think some of our worst teams had some of our better FT %s.

Agree to disagree. 2002-03's team ended up doing pretty well. They shot 69.4%.

 

[dollarbill44]

Agree to disagree. 2002-03's team ended up doing pretty well. They shot 69.4%.

I'm not going to disagree with what you wrote. I didn't make a blanket statement such as "ONLY our worst teams had our better FT %s." I do remember at least one of our "poor" teams (read NIT years) were quite adept FT shooters. I also know that many of our "best" teams were poor FT shooting teams.

Btw, what is up with Scoop's FTs this year? He has been Onuaku-like. And DW is a very solid FT shooter until the final minute of close games.

 

[Knicks411]

We are definitely shooting fewer FT this year. We're 300th in the country in FT per FGA.

 

[cpatrocks]

We are definitely shooting fewer FT this year. We're 300th in the country in FT per FGA.

I think we're just so fast, they can't get there to follow us.

 

[moqui]

Btw, what is up with Scoop's FTs this year? He has been Onuaku-like. And DW is a very solid FT shooter until the final minute of close games.

it's focus (or, rather, lack thereof). In the final 60 seconds of games, Scoop is 7/9 (and Dion is 4/4). Clearly, he can knock them down when he is focused.

 

[Rocco]

Btw, what is up with Scoop's FTs this year? He has been Onuaku-like. And DW is a very solid FT shooter until the final minute of close games.

No clue. It is awful to watch. He looks like he's throwing a beach ball at a solo cup.

 

[SouthCampusHero]

it's focus (or, rather, lack thereof). In the final 60 seconds of games, Scoop is 7/9 (and Dion is 4/4). Clearly, he can knock them down when he is focused.

I guess you arent counting the final minute of an overtime period if you have Dion going 4/4.

 

[pfister1]

it's focus (or, rather, lack thereof). In the final 60 seconds of games, Scoop is 7/9 (and Dion is 4/4). Clearly, he can knock them down when he is focused.

Actually Dion missed both free throw attempts at the end of OT against Georgetown. Could have put us up 5 with :02 to go. You could argue that they weren't likely to get off a length of the court shot with the time remaining, so they weren't critical, but if he made them it would have definitely put the game out of reach.

 

[moqui]

I guess you arent counting the final minute of an overtime period if you have Dion going 4/4.

Actually Dion missed both free throw attempts at the end of OT against Georgetown. Could have put us up 5 with :02 to go. You could argue that they weren't likely to get off a length of the court shot with the time remaining, so they weren't critical, but if he made them it would have definitely put the game out of reach.

yes, final minute of regulation. SU athletics keeps stats detailing final 5:00 to 2:00, 1:59 to 1:00, o:59 to 0:00, and OT.

 

[cpatrocks]

I guess you arent counting the final minute of an overtime period if you have Dion going 4/4.

yeah - I was thinking the same thing...

 

[SWC75]

It sucks to be Central Arkansas: http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/basketball/ncaab/stats/team-FT-Pct

The NCAA keeps track of statistical trends:
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/All-time Statistical Trends chart.pdf
The Media Guide has team numbers from the 1949-50 season

SU vs. the average free throw percentage:

1949-50 SU: .611 Nation: .618 Difference: -.007

1950-51 SU: .642 Nation: .628 Difference: +.014
1951-52 SU: .687 Nation: .626 Difference: +061
1952-53 SU: .644 Nation: .640 Difference: +.004
1953-54 SU: .634 Nation: .652 Difference: -.018
1954-55 SU: .642 Nation: .665 Difference: -.023
1955-56 SU: .607 Nation: .668 Difference: -.061
1956-57 SU: .671 Nation: .673 Difference: -.002
1957-58 SU: .647 Nation: .664 Difference: -.017
1958-59 SU: .681 Nation: .671 Difference: +.010
1959-60 SU: .700 Nation: .674 Difference: +.026

1960-61 SU: .673 Nation: .682 Difference: -.009
1961-62 SU: .680 Nation: .679 Difference: +.001
1962-63 SU: .650 Nation: .682 Difference: -.032
1963-64 SU: .700 Nation: .683 Difference: +.017
1964-65 SU: .704 Nation: .690 Difference: +.014
1965-66 SU: .712 Nation: .692 Difference: +.020
1966-67 SU: .723 Nation: .690 Difference: +.033
1967-68 SU: .747 Nation: .691 Difference: +.056
1968-69 SU: .694 Nation: .684 Difference: +.010
1969-70 SU: .659 Nation: .687 Difference: -.028

1970-71 SU: .686 Nation: .681 Difference: +.005
1971-72 SU: .747 Nation: .686 Difference: +.061
1972-73 SU: .699 Nation: .684 Difference: +.015
1973-74 SU: .638 Nation: .684 Difference: -.046
1974-75 SU: .671 Nation: .690 Difference: -.019
1975-76 SU: .635 Nation: .692 Difference: -.057
1976-77 SU: .675 Nation: .694 Difference: -.019
1977-78 SU: .675 Nation: .692 Difference: -.017
1978-79 SU: .712 Nation: .697 Difference: +.015
1979-80 SU: .719 Nation: .696 Difference: +.023

1980-81 SU: .749 Nation: .689 Difference: +.060
1981-82 SU: .711 Nation: .686 Difference: +.015
1982-83 SU: .713 Nation: .685 Difference: +.028
1983-84 SU: .751 Nation: .689 Difference: +.062
1984-85 SU: .715 Nation: .689 Difference: +.026
1985-86 SU: .686 Nation: .691 Difference: -.005
1986-87 SU: .650 Nation: .691 Difference: -.041
1987-88 SU: .600 Nation: .689 Difference: -.089
1988-89 SU: .612 Nation: .691 Difference: -.079
1989-90 SU: .647 Nation: .689 Difference: -.042

1990-91 SU: .645 Nation: .686 Difference: -.041
1991-92 SU: .685 Nation: .681 Difference: +.004
1992-93 SU: .686 Nation: .677 Difference: +.009
1993-94 SU: .715 Nation: .671 Difference: +.044
1994-95 SU: .622 Nation: .676 Difference: -.054
1995-96 SU: .705 Nation: .674 Difference: +.031
1996-97 SU: .642 Nation: .674 Difference: -.032
1997-98 SU: .676 Nation: .675 Difference: +.001
1998-99 SU: .663 Nation: .678 Difference: -.015
1999-2000 SU: .705 Nation: .681 Difference: +.024

2000-01 SU: .715 Nation: .685 Difference: +.030
2001-02 SU: .650 Nation: .690 Difference: -.040
2002-03 SU: .694 Nation: .694 Difference: none
2003-04 SU: .643 Nation: .688 Difference: -.045
2004-05 SU: .667 Nation: .687 Difference: -.020
2005-06 SU: .643 Nation: .691 Difference: -.048
2006-07 SU: .695 Nation: .690 Difference: +.005
2007-08 SU: .668 Nation: .691 Difference: -.023
2008-09 SU: .645 Nation: .690 Difference: -.045
2009-10 SU: .677 Nation: .689 Difference: -.012

2010-11 SU: .665 Nation: .693 Difference: -.028

It's hard to detect a strong trend there, although we have been behind the national average for most of the last decade. The average number of free throws taken per game is about 20. 70% is 14 made free throws. 13 made is 65%. 12 made is 60% so each made free throw moves you up by +.050. We were better or worse than the national average by signicantly more than that only in 1987-88 and 1988-89. People remember particular teams that were bad or games where we had some big misses but the overall record isn't that bad. I also thing that people over-estimate the "normal" free throw percentate, which has never reached 70.0%. The big thing if that if you have a guy who gets to the line alot, you want him to make a good percentage and if you've got a guy who is automatic, you want to get him the ball in the final minute.

 

[cusetown1]

70% exactly now.

 

[dollarbill44]

Actually Dion missed both free throw attempts at the end of OT against Georgetown. Could have put us up 5 with :02 to go. You could argue that they weren't likely to get off a length of the court shot with the time remaining, so they weren't critical, but if he made them it would have definitely put the game out of reach.

He did it again last night!!!