Who is QB1 v Pitt

[OrangeXtreme]

Braden Davis (portal transfer from South Carolina & Delaware Gatorade Player of the Year) can play in the last three games and still redshirt.

Davis has only played in one game (Colgate) so he can play the final three games and still redshirt.

“New redshirt rule in place state that football players will now be allowed to play in up to four games and still qualify for a redshirt season, maintaining four years of eligibility.”

Davis redshirted last year at South Carolina.

His clock is running regardless of how many games he plays this season.

 

[llandz]

During a commercial break on the pregame show with Infanti and Don McPherson. Don shared how on the Monday BEFORE the Virginia Tech game Shrader shared with him that he could barely throw a football and he was six months into a two year recovery. We all saw why he still played at Tech despite that considering CDRW’s performance last night.

I am going to add something, but without much context as it is confidential. But one of the players parents reached out to me about a week ago, and in the text conversation said something is very wrong with Schrader and a lot of the players don't understand why he is playing. So not just the injury he suffered at Va. Tech but much more than that. They were frustrated with mostly Beck but also why didn't Babers ever make changes when needed, such as Schrader being too injured to play.
That is all I am going to say...

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

I am going to add something, but without much context as it is confidential. But one of the players parents reached out to me about a week ago, and in the text conversation said something is very wrong with Schrader and a lot of the players don't understand why he is playing. So not just the injury he suffered at Va. Tech but much more than that. They were frustrated with mostly Beck but also why didn't Babers ever make changes when needed, such as Schrader being too injured to play.
That is all I am going to say...

This sounds like someone who is just over playing football. Thanks for the additional information. Something has just seemed off and we’ve all noticed it.

 

[llandz]

This sounds like someone who is just over playing football. Thanks for the additional information. Something has just seemed off and we’ve all noticed it.

Not even close...

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Not even close...

That’s fine. Appreciate the info and understand you can’t share more.

 

[Orangello]

It doesn't matter cause we're not beating Schpitt. They're giving FSU a game. Their defense will destroy our pathetic offense and their QB and receivers are actually functional.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Not even close...

Not surprised by this. There’s a lot of smoke on the topic with the tidbits coming out so can only imagine what the players think. They know.

 

[orangemass]

You heard Dino say that he thought CDRW did a good job so I guess he will be back. Buckle up.

We as a collective fan base should never subjected to another snap.

 

[wfschrec]

They were going to him first last night before inexplicably bringing back out CDRaw

No McPhail was the one warming up ... not Davis.

 

[orangenauburn]

No McPhail was the one warming up ... not Davis.

Yes I know. I was replying to someone who asked

 

[Willy75]

Not surprised by this. There’s a lot of smoke on the topic with the tidbits coming out so can only imagine what the players think. They know.

Coaches will rationalize a lot when their job is on the line, but I thought SU's medical staff had the reputation of being very conservative when it came to putting on the field players with injuries. Now we have this with Shrader and all the discussion about Tucker last year.

 

[two3zone]

This sounds like someone who is just over playing football. Thanks for the additional information. Something has just seemed off and we’ve all noticed it.

Sounds like someone is really hurt and had no business being on the field to me.

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Sounds like someone is really hurt and had no business being on the field to me.

Yeah I think we’ve all seen he hasn’t been right for quite a while.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Are you serious? He really said that?

I swear he’s living in a fantasy world.

Reminds me of the JB pressers where he would defend the zone being torched by saying we didn’t make enough shots.

 

[wfschrec]

Reminds me of the JB pressers where he would defend the zone being torched by saying we didn’t make enough shots.

Yes but even a dead man under the basket could get 7 rebounds …. One of my all time favorites.

 

[Scooch]

Yea, he should have said the kid sucked.

Boeheim would have. And then people here would have fell over laughing and high fived each other because Jimmy tells it like it is.

CDRW had 4 more interceptions than a dead guy. Nyuck nyuck nyuck!

 

[Scooch]

I am going to add something, but without much context as it is confidential. But one of the players parents reached out to me about a week ago, and in the text conversation said something is very wrong with Schrader and a lot of the players don't understand why he is playing. So not just the injury he suffered at Va. Tech but much more than that. They were frustrated with mostly Beck but also why didn't Babers ever make changes when needed, such as Schrader being too injured to play.
That is all I am going to say...

That’s so discouraging. Say what you will about him, but Shrader is a helluva gamer and clearly is putting his health on the line to play.

It’s the coaching staff’s job to protect players from themselves. If they’re not doing it then that’s unconscionable. And honestly, a firable offense.

It’s not Shrader’s fault that Babers and Beck can’t coach QBs out of a wet paper bag.

What a sh!tshow.

 

[007]

i dont know that del rio can play next week anyway.. He was pretty bad shape by the end of the game and his leg was in a wrap just to get on the field.. He could barely walk.

FWIW, he walked to the team bus after the game on his own carrying his bag. He had an ice pack taped to his ankle. No boot, no crutch, slight limp.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

As far as diminishing MacPhail because he is a walk on, this is his 4th year in the program and per 247 was ranked the No. 100 pro-style quarterback in the country. Not saying he is great or will do any better than CDRW, but he is not some kid off the street.

Hes # 5 for all time HS passing yards for players in Massachusetts.

Top 10 all-time leading passers in Massachusetts HS football

Massachusetts has been home to many fine high school quarterbacks over the years. Here are the top 10 all-time leading passers in state history.

bvmsports.com

Noone on that top 10 list played major D1 football FWIW.

 

[sutomcat]

I don’t think the timeline of recovery for QB’s is the same as pitchers. Jake Delhomme had it for Carolina in 2007 and was back 7 months later.

Brock Purdy had a UCL repair this offseason and while he’s been solid even he said he’s not all the way back yet.

JMO that it is likely some type of UCL surgery.

Did some research and I agree with you. Turns out there is a new variation on Tommy John with a significantly faster return time.

It is called ‘UCL repair with InternalBrace augmentation’. The return to play rate (RTP) with as good or better results for this approach is also significantly higher (93%), but it is not possible in all UCL tears.

Guessing this is probably what Garrett had done.

Inside Brock Purdy's UCL repair: The revolutionary Tommy John alternative that has the 49ers optimistic

Purdy is only the third professional quarterback to forgo Tommy John surgery with a UCL elbow repair, which the 49ers hope will have him ready for the start of the season.

www.espn.com

If he was able to have this type of surgery, and it was done in say February, yes, he might have been able to throw some in preseason camp. The 93% RTP probably drove Dino to say doctors guaranteed he would be as good or better (I doubt they really did that).

Maybe they hoped they could do the InterBrace thing but when they opened him up, it was not possible. Sounds like you can’t know until you have the joint exposed. In that case, GS and Delhomme were on similar timelines and both were not 100% when they returned.

Given the lack of arm strength and accuracy, I think it is fair to say this was a failed surgery. Hopefully GS can get to 100% down the road. Given our situation, I wonder if him might be interested in returning for one more season? Poor guy would probably have to adapt to another system, another QB coach and another OC. He has gone through a lot in his college career.

 

[Cusefan78]

Did some research and I agree with you. Turns out there is a new variation on Tommy John with a significantly faster return time.

It is called ‘UCL repair with InternalBrace augmentation’. The return to play rate (RTP) with as good or better results for this approach is also significantly higher (93%), but it is not possible in all UCL tears.

Guessing this is probably what Garrett had done.

Inside Brock Purdy's UCL repair: The revolutionary Tommy John alternative that has the 49ers optimistic

Purdy is only the third professional quarterback to forgo Tommy John surgery with a UCL elbow repair, which the 49ers hope will have him ready for the start of the season.

www.espn.com

If he was able to have this type of surgery, and it was done in say February, yes, he might have been able to throw some in preseason camp. The 93% RTP probably drove Dino to say doctors guaranteed he would be as good or better (I doubt they really did that).

Maybe they hoped they could do the InterBrace thing but when they opened him up, it was not possible. Sounds like you can’t know until you have the joint exposed. In that case, GS and Delhomme were on similar timelines and both were not 100% when they returned.

Given the lack of arm strength and accuracy, I think it is fair to say this was a failed surgery. Hopefully GS can get to 100% down the road. Given our situation, I wonder if him might be interested in returning for one more season? Poor guy would probably have to adapt to another system, another QB coach and another OC. He has gone through a lot in his college career.

Think he’s out of eligibility

 

[tep624]

I am going to add something, but without much context as it is confidential. But one of the players parents reached out to me about a week ago, and in the text conversation said something is very wrong with Schrader and a lot of the players don't understand why he is playing. So not just the injury he suffered at Va. Tech but much more than that. They were frustrated with mostly Beck but also why didn't Babers ever make changes when needed, such as Schrader being too injured to play.
That is all I am going to say...

I appreciate you adding this. As critical of Dino as I’ve been, I’ve been largely protective of Shrader with other posters because I assumed that he has been significantly injured for weeks now and this is yet again an example of the futility of Dino. Not only are you pushing a kid out there to play that is clearly limited to anyone watching due to injury, you literally don’t have a single option that’s better than a 50-60% Shrader. I mean, not for nothing, that’s ridiculous.

 

[Scooch]

I appreciate you adding this. As critical of Dino as I’ve been, I’ve been largely protective of Shrader with other posters because I assumed that he has been significantly injured for weeks now and this is yet again an example of the futility of Dino. Not only are you pushing a kid out there to play that is clearly limited to anyone watching due to injury, you literally don’t have a single option that’s better than a 50-60% Shrader. I mean, not for nothing, that’s ridiculous.

It’s only year 8. He really needs to be at 12 or 13 to have time to recruit one slightly below average backup QB.

 

[djorange1989]

Think he’s out of eligibility

Correct

 

[kcsu]

He injured his right ankle in the second to last series. He should have taken himself out of the game since he could not even put pressure on his right leg and was hopping on his left leg. The injury caused the terrible pass to Allen on second down.

They taped his right ankle up and came back on the field with a limp for the last series.

I have no clue how no one on the coaching staff noticed he was injured.

I think he went onto the tent