Why are we so concerned about Carney's Red Shirt?

[Millhouse]

It's a crappy thing to do. If you're going to play the kid, then play him. Don't waste his redshirt and not let him throw. It's so obviously a bad thing to do that I have to wonder about their character

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You going to offer up any supporting evidence? Because right now you're getting your tail kicked.

Because you threw multiple retaliation stilettos?

My tail is kicked. You won.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You're disputing that Arizona, Arkansas, BYU, Cal, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Memphis, Minnesota and San Diego State are not low to mid level D1 programs. Please offer up something to support your claim.

Why?

 

[tptcuse]

Don't post if you're just going to throw out statements without backing them up.

Maybe let it go?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Don't post if you're just going to throw out statements without backing them up.

Noted, but be warned, my post count indicates I will learn nothing from your feedback.

 

[orange79]

You going to offer up any supporting evidence? Because right now you're getting your tail kicked.

Speaking of tail-kicking, you don't define who is a mid-to-low level D1 team by looking at one season.

No matter what you think. Settle down. It's an internet board.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I couldn't care less how many times you've posted. You obviously don't know football and proved your posts have no substance.

That's hurtful.

There's at least a little bit of substance.

And that substance is love.

The secret ingredient to my posts is love.

Does that make you feel any different about the retaliation stilettos you gave me?

Do you dislike love?

 

[orange79]

Exactly. Looking at multiple seasons, Arizona, Arkansas, BYU, Cal, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Memphis, Minnesota and San Diego State are all low to mid level D1 programs.

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[MadNY3]

Is that all you got? We were in the Top 25 over the last year as well. What does Cal losing a QB have to do with anything?

Easy tough guy. I would just challenge those teams are a bit better than low to mid tier. And Cal knows QB talent given its starting QB last year is a Heisman candidate this year.

 

[Surfan06001]

Do you think BYU cares about losing Carney to Syracuse, after they beat out Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M, Miami, Michigan, Notre Dame and Oregon for Bear Bachmeier?

Jokes on you. That’s obviously a fake name.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Bear is Bachmeier's given first name. Learn the game.

BYU didn't beat out those schools for Bachmeier. Bachmeier was an early enrollee at Stanford and portaled after spring ball to BYU.

You know the game, so you must have forgotten that.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Insinuating that had Carney had chosen BYU, maybe he would be the freshman leading them to the playoffs.

That's not what I was insinuating at all.

 

[tptcuse]

Ok then offer up some supporting evidence that they're better than low to mid tier.

Cal is better than low to mid tier because they know QB talent?

Is Incarnate Word also a top tier program, because that's where Cam Ward started before he transferred and won the Heisman?

I have a better question. Why does this matter so much to you?

 

[Surfan06001]

Bear is Bachmeier's given first name. Learn the game.

Given by AI I bet

This is sad for you.

 

[OburgOrange]

I’m getting CuseRunner vibes

 

[OttoinGrotto]

When you can't answer the questions, start the ad hominem attacks. Is that how it works?

When has tpt said anything that was an ad hominem attack?

The closest thing to an ad hominem attack here is when Mad called you tough guy.

 

[ClkWrkOrange]

I think it all comes down to Fran giving him and his family a commitment when he came to Syracuse that he would redshirt this year. Fran probably believes that keeping his word on that is important going forward regarding future recruits.

He could have been given 4 legit shots and still redshirted. What they've done with his 4 appearances is ridiculous.

 

[tptcuse]

Asking why I care so much.

Is it a bad thing to care so much about SU football?

If we are ever going to be a championship level program then we need better recruits than Luke Carney.

You seem to care too much about whether the power conference teams that recruited Carney are low to mid. That's all I meant.

 

[Scooch]

They sure did. He went to BYU over every top tier program that wanted him.

The point is Bear had an impressive offer list and is impressive. Carrey had an unimpressive offer list and is unimpressive.

I don’t think Carney’s offer list was unimpressive. It’s not 5 star, but he was offered by several P4 teams. There’s lot of guys with worse offer lists that have turned out to be very good college players.

Obsessing over definition of “mid” level is really weird.

 

[Brian Orange]

Why bother redshirting anyone anymore when they might just leave for the next bigger payday with another team anyway?

This has been my question as well. "Burning" a redshirt used to stink when the player stuck around for four years. What are the odds even before this fiasco of Carney being here 4 years? I would say close to zero.

 

[MikeSU02]

"legit D1/P5 interest and offers"

Yes, from low to mid level D1 programs.

He was rated the 117th best QB in the class.

First, your commentary is false on its face in terms of the program levels.

Second, even if it was not, Filardi is a walk on lacrosse player from a terribly poor state for football.

Third, if he was so star-spangled awful, why play him at all?

 

[OttosShoes]

Josh Allen had no offers out of high school and only 2 G5 offers after juco. Rickie Collins had three factory offers and like a dozen P4 out of high school. This is maybe not the best benchmark.

Anywho. Transfer destinations? I feel like an Eastern Carolina type school might be a fit, a better G5 program.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Where's OttoinGrotto? Must be having a hard time getting out of bed after getting his tail kicked last night.

wat

 

[OttosShoes]

You're a clown.

When you can't answer the questions, start the ad hominem attacks. Is that how it works?

As a big fan of irony, thank you for making my day.

 

[Surfan06001]

Did you see how I debunked your claim immediately before you got called a clown? Just want to make sure you saw that. For every Josh Allen there are 500 recruits with little to no offers that don't pan out. Rickie Collins is also an anomaly. Clown. Learn the game.

How much can you bench bro