Spot on, he made a great throw to C Jackson in the rutgers game. The only reason being he got no pressure it was under 10 yards and jackson was open from the second the ball was snapped. Taj doesn't know how to behave but TD should have had tons of success with T jackson and harris in 19. His stats from 2019 were not bad at all but those of us who actually watched the games know how bad of an overall QB he is.
Blah - agree it's been not great. But moving to a running focused attack when you have the dome seems dumb. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Dino might not be the guy to get the passing attack right - but it doesn't mean it's the wrong tact.
Shafer sucked. That doesn't change the fact that we have had one passing QB in the 2000s. We have struggled to get quality WRs. Sure having a Dome is great for passing but we cannot get the horses. Tailoring the team to what you can get makes more sense.
I'd prefer trying to upgrade the talent over going run-heavy. It's not like OL has been Wisconsin and we can build a great run offense. Unless, you want to go triple option which is a whole other discussion.
Eh, well you're wrong again. I heard this crap when P was fired, and we got the WCO and Grob, turned to a more NE based strong D/pro-style with Marrone and it fixed things. As for Shafer, I get it, he lit a cigar in the dome but people are stubborn. Fact is Shafer brought us Dungey, Erv, Ish, etc. Shafer was snake-bit when it came to injuries. He was playing with his 4th string QB that last year. How has ANY other SU coach done when playing a 4th string QB. Dino can't win with a 1st string QB. Also Marrone's recuriting sucked and it takes years for guys to move through the system. I still think Shafer only getting 3 years while using a walk-on 4th string QB was BS but guys like you wanted a passing offense tailored to the Dome. Well here it is, I think, I'm not sure we even have an offense.
That's fine. I'd prefer to win games and not be a laughing stock. Literally we've brought in these types of offenses twice and both times have resulted in our worst teams. Dino and Grob, Baylor and WCO, I'm so freaking over it. Power pro-style football with strong defense is what wins in the Dome, not always but a hell of alot more than trying to be someone we're not like Baylor(TX Talent) or USC.
I would too but it ain't happening. Our peer struggle to consistently have quality passing QBs and quality WRs. So why would it be different here? Heck top programs struggle to find good QBs.
Paulus, Nassib, Devito. I count 3. May be others.
Drive 1 was Taj's drop. We abandoned the run in the 2nd half and we had no reason to. We got the ball back with momentum at 7-7 and went three and out. Unacceptable.
If we play the running QB the D can't focus on Tucker. It keeps them honest.
I don’t disagree with any of that. But if you’re going to factor in effectiveness, Dungey as a passer chalked up nearly 10,000 yards. So…
Or we could like throw to the TE over the top of the cheating LBs so they aren't pinning their ears back looking for the run to loosen things up. I mean if you want DeLeone 3 yds and a cloud of dust, I'm sorta ok with that but we have to get to 3 yards first, I think we're only at 2 right now. I see a lot of 2nd and 8, 3rd and 8 type of plays from us. Running into a stacked box is not the answer. Using the middle of the field and TE's and PA passing is.
I know this is speculative, but I think Dino found a faster Erv. But he decided to transfer to Louisville.
And on 3rd and short or medium don't throw a low percentage deep ball down the sideline to a covered WR (not specific to this year, more the previous couple).
Your citing Greg Robinsons offense as proof of anything at all made my eyes glaze over. Dino *was* successful with a tempo based offense at doing things Shafer had wet dreams about. The offense now doesn’t resemble that offense and that’s why we are even asking the question about what might work going forward.
I would categorize those passes to the TE as play action opportunities. Agree we should utilize them. Set up by the run game.
Shafer would have had Dungey for more games in 2015 if he didn't leave him in the game against Louisville down 4 TDs with 8 minutes left because "we still had a shot to win". He was given only 3 years because the guy who hired him was sent packing and his new boss watched him melt down in a series of "We're 3-0! 3-0!" and ISIS press conferences, bugging Coyle for an extension while losing 8 straight after the "3-0" start. Shafer got what he deserved, no matter how things turn out with Dino. Like PP in 2004. it was time for him to go, we just should have never replaced him with a dope like GROB, doesn't mean firing him was a mistake.
Just think. In maybe 15-20 years we’ll be saying that again.
