William Kyle Appreciation Thread

[CuseIn282xx]

Kyle is 6-9 230 with a 7-3 wing span and 44" vertical. That's what matters way more than the height differences.

Jeremy McNeil, anyone?

 

[Niastri]

Jeremy McNeil, anyone?

By block% William Kyle is every bit the shotblocker Jeremy McNeil was.

Kyle was at 9.0% on the season last year, and was 10.2 in Big Ten conference play.

McNeil's best season (they started tracking block% our championship year), he was 9.5%

Two things to consider: Block% measures the percentage of the time you block an opponent's shot while you are on the floor. But it only counts 2pt field goal attempts. The percentage of shots from 2pt relative to 3pt shots has gone down dramatically since 2002-2003. McNeil had many more chances per game to block shots.

Secondly, every one of us remembers McNeil tremendously, heroically, spectacularly saving our championship run by blocking 72 shots in a row during our epic comeback against Oklahoma State. This makes him the standard for all future shotblockers. Not statistically, but in our hearts and minds.

 

[RedtheGOB]

By block% William Kyle is every bit the shotblocker Jeremy McNeil was.

Kyle was at 9.0% on the season last year, and was 10.2 in Big Ten conference play.

McNeil's best season (they started tracking block% our championship year), he was 9.5%

Two things to consider: Block% measures the percentage of the time you block an opponent's shot while you are on the floor. But it only counts 2pt field goal attempts. The percentage of shots from 2pt relative to 3pt shots has gone down dramatically since 2002-2003. McNeil had many more chances per game to block shots.

Secondly, every one of us remembers McNeil tremendously, heroically, spectacularly saving our championship run by blocking 72 shots in a row during our epic comeback against Oklahoma State. This makes him the standard for all future shotblockers. Not statistically, but in our hearts and minds.

I appreciate the #’s and we’re on the same page. However I really don’t care about metrics for the 5’s this year. I want our 2 centers knocking people on their asses when they get in the lane and at the rim. Fighting for rebounds every shot. 8-10 fouls a game, whatever, who cares.

It’s a lost art that left this program somewhere along the way. Put a nasty foul on the other team and make them earn it at the line.

Kenpom and all these metrics gurus may not pick it up in their “efficiencies” but it absolutely can stall out the other teams offense if done correctly.

Maybe I’m just old school but it’s a toughness mentality as well. You may get 2 points at the FT line but you ain’t getting an easy lineup.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Hope I’m wrong, but he couldn’t even cover Buffalo bigs down low tonight

 

[Cusefan0307]

Hope I’m wrong, but he couldn’t even cover Buffalo bigs down low tonight

Good lord. You were going to say this no matter what he did. There were many more things to be concerned about besides Kyle.

 

[Hoopsfan830]

Hope I’m wrong, but he couldn’t even cover Buffalo bigs down low

That hate is strong with this one (in my Yoda voice).

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Good lord. You were going to say this no matter what here did. There were many more things to be concerned about besides Kyle.

I’m looking at the big picture. He can’t cover anyone. That’s prob most important for our season. Interior defense. We haven’t had any in years.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I’m looking at the big picture. He can’t cover anyone. That’s prob most important for our season. Interior defense. We haven’t had any in years.

 

[Cuse On 3]

I’m looking at the big picture. He can’t cover anyone. That’s prob most important for our season. Interior defense. We haven’t had any in years.

lol nah brother, you’re just a hater. plain and simple

 

[OmahaCuse]

I’m looking at the big picture. He can’t cover anyone. That’s prob most important for our season. Interior defense. We haven’t had any in years.

UB shot 20% until drilling 5 threes late?

 

[Hoopsfan830]

I’m looking at the big picture. He can’t cover anyone. That’s prob most important for our season. Interior defense. We haven’t had any in years.

Honestly though, what in the defensive end did you not specifically like? Not only was Kyle keeping their big men in check down low, he was constantly switching, giving help side support, hedging at the top of the key and dropping to the block on a consistent basis.

Wasn’t perfect, but effective IMO.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Hope I’m wrong, but he couldn’t even cover Buffalo bigs down low tonight

You’re wrong.

Kyle would be the best player on the floor if he had any offensive skills. But even without those skills he impacted the floor on D in a big way… rebounding and altering shots. Most of the times their bigs scored, I don’t think Kyle was on the floor or it was because there was a breakdown by another player.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

You’re wrong.

Kyle would be the best player on the floor if he had any offensive skills. But even without those skills he impacted the floor on D in a big way… rebounding and altering shots. Most of the times their bigs scored, I don’t think Kyle was on the floor or it was because there was a breakdown by another player.

Because he got a few dunks against a terrible team? He was terrible defensively. Would leave his feet and allow layups to scrubs. I’ll be here when you guys notice it in a loss.

 

[Hoopsfan830]

Because he got a few dunks against a terrible team? He was terrible defensively. Would leave his feet and allow layups go scrubs. I’ll be here when you guys notice it in a loss.

Oh, we know you will. This whole thread was awkward, like you wanted to see him fail from day one.

BTW, get used to dunks. There’s a reason the FG % is so high.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Oh, we know you will. This whole thread was awkward, like you wanted to see him fail from day one.

BTW, get used to dunks. There’s a reason the FG % is so high.

I would love to see him, donnie and sourae cover the interior. Does not appear any of them can. Maybe Sadiq?

 

[Hoopsfan830]

I would love to see him, donnie and sourae cover the interior. Does not appear any of them can. Maybe Sadiq?

Based on what metric for their bigs? 5 FG inside the 3? What should it have been against Buffalo, 0-4?

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Based on what metric for their bigs? 5 FG inside the 3? What should it have been against Buffalo, 0-4?

Idc bout stats, just watching the game.

 

[DoctahLexus]

Idc bout stats, just watching the game.

Just watched the game. If you were complaining about his foul shooting form you would have a point, but you are clearly just saying things. The closest I can find to him "leaving his feet and allowing a layup from scrubs" is a play where he doubled a guy driving in the lane and had to rush back to try and block an open layup. Has given up nothing legit 1v1 in the post. They only score in the lane when he is out of position because of a rotation. He grabbed multiple heavily contested rebounds and had a nice weakside block. Maybe bit on one pump fake from a guard in the lane, but again that was on help defense after poor defense from one of our guards, not him getting worked 1v1 in the post by their bigs.

You are in hater/troll territory bud.

 

[RedtheGOB]

He was 1 Reb away from a double double in 27 mins.

We outboarded them by 15. That Batchelor kid who was a 3 star guy that started his career at Maryland and is now a senior pulled in 10 rebounds somehow I think from the 3. Rest of their bigs were pretty useless all game until that McKenna guy scored 18 off the bench.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The OP has been trying to create a narrative the minute we signed this guy.

 

[Orangezoo]

Because he got a few dunks against a terrible team? He was terrible defensively. Would leave his feet and allow layups to scrubs. I’ll be here when you guys notice it in a loss.

You need to rewatch. He defended the rim better after a few mishaps. He was solid on the boards and defending. He needs to work on things in the pick and pop but he was fine in the post. He had two poor defensive possessions early in the post that you are carrying a lot of water with ignoring the rest of the game.

 

[Briancuse]

His athleticism is off the charts I'll take a shorter kyle over a cat rescuer who cant play.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

You need to rewatch. He defended the rim better after a few mishaps. He was solid on the boards and defending. He needs to work on things in the pick and pop but he was fine in the post. He had two poor defensive possessions early in the post that you are carrying a lot of water with ignoring the rest of the game.

This is against Buffalo lol and I know what I saw.

 

[MSOrange]

This is against Buffalo lol and I know what I saw.

You may very well be right about Kyle, but I think a lot of longtime posters remember how massively wrong you were about Benny Williams being underused and not treated fairly for 2 seasons. So you may want to let this play out a little bit.

 

[baggerbob]

Just watched the game. If you were complaining about his foul shooting form you would have a point, but you are clearly just saying things. The closest I can find to him "leaving his feet and allowing a layup from scrubs" is a play where he doubled a guy driving in the lane and had to rush back to try and block an open layup. Has given up nothing legit 1v1 in the post. They only score in the lane when he is out of position because of a rotation. He grabbed multiple heavily contested rebounds and had a nice weakside block. Maybe bit on one pump fake from a guard in the lane, but again that was on help defense after poor defense from one of our guards, not him getting worked 1v1 in the post by their bigs.

You are in hater/troll territory bud.

I know one poster that I won't bother to read , and it isn't you. I will just skip over his posts, reading any more is s waste of my time.