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Brooky03
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zero defense. Maybe even less than zero
You go too far
zero defense. Maybe even less than zero
Honestly, I was going to say less than zero. Did you ever watch him on the defensive end of the court?You go too far
Laz Simms
When he used to start jawing...you knew he was going off for 25 plus! Most passionate Orange player we’ve ever had...and something that we truly have missed. Seems like Moyer has a little of it...but in a less “insult your oppenent” way. When he dunks the ball it really fires the team up! I think his energy could be contagious!I really miss the 3’s in transition and the 3s off that handoff play that him and Rautins used to get.
I prefer MCWWe all know JB’s zone would prefer MCW for length but for college basketball which would you rather have?
This team needs a power forward who can shoot and is a scoring threat—give me senior year James Southerland or Tyler Lydon (if he had only stayed for his junior year!) We need to open up the driving lanes for Tyus, Frank and Oshae.I don't think an MCW type would add enough to this team. We don't have anybody that can finish his passes inside.
Flynn would be much better for this team's lack of offense. He could get to the rim anytime.
As for a typical SU team, it would have to depend on the other pieces, as well. MCW probably would fit as the classic SU PG a whole lot better, though Jonny was better.
Edelin was great but doesn't fit today's game well.On this team, if we can't get Sherman I'd take Billy Edelin.
Edelin was great but doesn't fit today's game well.
In fact, that entire team doesn't minus having a top NBA scoring player ever.
Two guys off our bench didn't shoot outside the paint. That's absurd looking back.
This may have been stated elsewhere in the thread but I'm too lazy to read through it.We all know JB’s zone would prefer MCW for length but for college basketball which would you rather have?
He could penetrate and dish and led that team his senior year, no one on this team has his handleYou must mean senior-year Laz Simms. He had a great year.
Still, not sure he'd add a lot to this bunch.
He could penetrate and dish and led that team his senior year, no one on this team has his handle
This may have been stated elsewhere in the thread but I'm too lazy to read through it.
IMO, Jonny Flynn is the single most over rated player I've seen at SU. He was waaaay too much a "me first" style PG and became completely uncoachable before he left.
I'd take MCW, Ennis, Laz and even the senior version of Scoop before I'd take Flynn. Teams usually don't win when your PG leads the team in shot taken. Too much Iverson and not enough Stockton.
I still cringe every time one of our current guards dribbles the ball off his foot, basic basketball skills definitely lacking on the current teamWho is he going to penetrate and dish to?
Z (maybe my all time favorite su player) had John Wallace, marius janulis, Jason cippola and Todd burgan who were legit three point threats. Wallace was one of the two or three best offensive players in the ncaa. And he had a serious low-post talent in Otis hill. This was a perfect team for Z. I am not sure he would have much more luck with this team than Howard has had.
Flynn averaged 6.7 assists per game as a sophomore. I’m not looking it up but I’m pretty sure the list of SU PG’s who’ve averaged more in a season is small. Douglas, Sims...maybe MCW or Pearl?
Also, while Flynn led the team in shots, he also led the team in minutes by far. Devendorf took more shots per 40 minutes played, and Rautins was right behind him. Flynn took 12.5 shots per game, that’s really not that many. That team had pretty good offensive balance.
That 08-09 team was loaded offensively. Problem was we had Flynn and Devo who were allergic to defense and we played Undersized guys in Rautins and Harris in the back of the zone most of the time.