Your Ideal ACC expansion

[Acesn8s]

I don’t think Acc expands anytime soon, however in an ideal scenario Notre Dame and Penn State are the perfect answer.

 

[Scooch]

I think the Texas/OU shift finally causes the first increase to this number, right?

Assuming the Big 12 stays as a "Power 5", they add BYU, Houston, UCF, Cincy by 2024, maybe sooner if they can work it all out. Which will make it 68 + ND.

(which is 69 for all you sinners scoring at home).

Yep, it took 25+ years and multiple realignments to add 4-5 teams to the haves.

Great work, everyone!

 

[Chip]

Yep, it took 25+ years and multiple realignments to add 4-5 teams to the haves.

Great work, everyone!

If Texas/Oklahoma were happy where they were, it never happens.

The SEC will champion the effort to no longer consider the Big 12 an auto qualifier in any new playoff.

 

[Scooch]

If Texas/Oklahoma were happy where they were, it never happens.

The SEC will champion the effort to no longer consider the Big 12 an auto qualifier in any new playoff.

It's amazing the destruction that Texas has wrought.

They blew up the SWC, which caused four programs (Houston, Rice, SMU and TCU) to be cast out of the haves club (3 to never return, so far).

They pissed off everyone in the Big 12 so much that four schools fled the conference (Colorado, Missouri, Texas A&M, Nebraska).

They left the Big 12, potentially causing the remaining 8 schools (and 3 additions) to be pushed to have-not status.

Just remarkable the impact one school has had.

 

[Chip]

It's amazing the destruction that Texas has wrought.

They blew up the SWC, which caused four programs (Houston, Rice, SMU and TCU) to be cast out of the haves club (3 to never return, so far).

They pissed off everyone in the Big 12 so much that four schools fled the conference (Colorado, Missouri, Texas A&M, Nebraska).

They left the Big 12, potentially causing the remaining 8 schools (and 3 additions) to be pushed to have-not status.

Just remarkable the impact one school has had.

Hard to imagine why so many people in the state of Texas (and beyond) don't like them.

 

[Scooch]

Hard to imagine why so many people in the state of Texas (and beyond) don't like them.

Funny thing is, one of the best "Syracuse" crowds I've even seen were the Texas fans rooting for us against Arkansas in Austin during the 1994 NCAA Tournament.

 

[Chip]

Funny thing is, one of the best "Syracuse" crowds I've even seen were the Texas fans rooting for us against Arkansas in Austin during the 1994 NCAA Tournament.

I'd prefer never speaking about that game ever again. Please and thank you.

 

[sutomcat]

It's amazing the destruction that Texas has wrought.

They blew up the SWC, which caused four programs (Houston, Rice, SMU and TCU) to be cast out of the haves club (3 to never return, so far).

They pissed off everyone in the Big 12 so much that four schools fled the conference (Colorado, Missouri, Texas A&M, Nebraska).

They left the Big 12, potentially causing the remaining 8 schools (and 3 additions) to be pushed to have-not status.

Just remarkable the impact one school has had.

Indeed. Texas is the trojan horse built to destroy any conference foolish enough to take it in.

Enjoy life SEC while you can. Because you are headed for skid row.

 

[IthacaMatt]

This guy is claiming he has an inside source that ND and WV are finally joining the ACC. When pressed about his sources he says reliable, “ACC coaching staff members reliable”. He has a decent following so this is a pretty bold prediction. Just hearsay obviously but interesting.

If the ACC couldn't use ND to entice, say Penn State or Maryland to rejoin, then West Virginia would probably be the next best choice.

 

[Orangefizz]

Any 2 of Penn St/Maryland/Notre Dame/Vanderbilt

 

[IthacaMatt]

If ND were to ever fully join our conference, there is nothing to say for sure that they would have to share the NBC money. The ACC already makes special rules for them already so who is to say they would force them to restructure the NBC deal? Also it could make sense for them as they could get to the CFB playoff more easily as a conference champion. College football is ever changing and even Notre Dame is not immune to change. If the money made sense, I could see them doing it.

Special rules on revenue sharing that favor one team over the group will spell the end of that conference. We already saw this with the Big East. No need to repeat that error.

Is Notre Dame truly any bigger than Duke in basketball, or Clemson in football? Notre Dame hasn't been "all that" for a long time. They have a huge following, but so do many other schools. Notre Dame's special charisma is mostly in the minds of their fans and alumni.

Their contract with NBC only pays them $15M a year, and expires in 2025. That doesn't compare well with typical conference payouts.

ND's 5 football games on NBC last year averaged 4.8M viewers, which is (frankly) terrific. The ACC doesn't hit that number except for it's conference championship games. It looks like the average football game runs between 1.5M and 2.5M in viewership.

But the NCAA playoffs, in contrast, draw around 18M viewers per game. So, while ND outperforms the typical Saturday afternoon game, it's not like they're a "Bowl Game" every week.