Frank Howard...ahhhh, I got nothing.

[Brooky03]

Frank was not a problem in this game. Not even close. We let a bad team stick around in a game we controlled and got bit. Gotta beat teams that are worse than you. We didn't do that. The defense failed today.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

Better go back and replay that play. Player had his arm around Howard's neck enough to tug on him. Why do you think there was a double T?

The arm on neck was incidental. The NCST player's T was for getting up & getting in Frank's face. We were fortunate it was a double T.

 

[MikeSU02]

i dont buy the excuse that frank is tired for his lazy d, remember the end of notre dame game? its more about his attitude and effort than his minutes.

For sure, since he's a robot.

The only reason he isn't higher than #6 in all of D1, is that he fouled out one game.

He played another 40 minutes tonight.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Frank was not a problem in this game. Not even close. We let a bad team stick around in a game we controlled and got bit. Gotta beat teams that are worse than you. We didn't do that. The defense failed today.

Yeah it’s a cop out. Every game we lose is an excuse to blame Howard no matter how he plays. Maybe he should have shut it down like Moyer once he hurt his wrist.

 

[Briancuse]

So people actually do think Frank tried to hit that second foul shot.

Why?

Yes there was still enough time.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Did Howard give up all the 3’s in the corner tonight too?

No, but that’s not the point.
Until he bricked those two FT’s, we still had a chance. You simply can’t go up there and gag the freebies, completely taking the life outta your team...you, the point guard.
Personally, if he’d made the 2 and we’d still lost, I’d feel a little bit better somehow.
Losing with such a gut punch...in such a feeble whimper of a way, just puts a worse connotation on everything. It just...like i said, i got nothin’.
JMHO

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Yes there was still enough time.

No way he agrees with that. I'm sure JB may have, but Frank's a free thinker. He missed that on purpose. 98% sure.

 

[Trueblue25]

These threads dont even surprise me anymore.

Dolezaj, chukwu and sidibe were complete non factors this game. Battle was shut down the first half. Frank had a dumb reaction after being dunked on and maybe 2 bad turnovers. We’ve sucked at free throws for 20 years. How about guarding the corner three.

 

[MikeDamone]

No, but that’s not the point.
Until he bricked those two FT’s, we still had a chance. You simply can’t go up there and gag the freebies, completely taking the life outta your team...you, the point guard.
Personally, if he’d made the 2 and we’d still lost, I’d feel a little bit better somehow.
Losing with such a gut punch...in such a feeble whimper of a way, just puts a worse connotation on everything. It just...like i said, i got nothin’.
JMHO

Especially after he went 0-5 from ft line down stretch last game. He is entering Nick Anderson territory

 

[Cusefan0307]

No, but that’s not the point.
Until he bricked those two FT’s, we still had a chance. You simply can’t go up there and gag the freebies, completely taking the life outta your team...you, the point guard.
Personally, if he’d made the 2 and we’d still lost, I’d feel a little bit better somehow.
Losing with such a gut punch...in such a feeble whimper of a way, just puts a worse connotation on everything. It just...like i said, i got nothin’.
JMHO

I’m as angry as anyone, but blaming Howard for everything with the season has got old and isn’t even close to any of our top 3 problems.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Yes there was still enough time.

5 seconds. Time for what?

 

[two3zone]

Frank was not a problem in this game. Not even close. We let a bad team stick around in a game we controlled and got bit. Gotta beat teams that are worse than you. We didn't do that. The defense failed today.

You don't think him shoving a player and drawing a T is a problem let alone not even close to a problem?

 

[pearl31]

a bad team

Which has won vs Arizona neutral, at NC, and Duke/Clemson at home - i.e., not a bad team
(it's not what this thread is about but I hate these false narratives that crop up after games)

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Which has won vs Arizona neutral, at NC, and Duke/Clemson at home - i.e., not a bad team
(it's not what this thread is about but I hate these false narratives that crop up after games)

Completely agree. As constructed right now, they are absolutely a better team.

 

[Brooky03]

Which has won vs Arizona neutral, at NC, and Duke/Clemson at home - i.e., not a bad team
(it's not what this thread is about but I hate these false narratives that crop up after games)

literally the worst team.

 

[MikeDamone]

5 seconds. Time for what?

Perhaps there would have been more time if FH hadn't walked the ball up the previous possession or if TB would have driven as soon as he got the ball

 

[two3zone]

Frank was not a problem in this game. Not even close. We let a bad team stick around in a game we controlled and got bit. Gotta beat teams that are worse than you. We didn't do that. The defense failed today.

Not sure how we're better than them. Have you seen them or their schedule or just making things up? I'm going with the latter.

 

[pearl31]

literally the worst team.

huh?

 

[Brooky03]

You don't think him shoving a player and drawing a T is a problem let alone not even close to a problem?

No. It was a double foul. No advantage was gained for NC State. Had zero impact on the outcome.

 

[Brooky03]

huh?

Are you seriously arguing that NC State is decent at basketball this year?

 

[dasher]

I’m not sure any team with JB as coach will ever be successful again.

You think the game has changed that much since 2016?

 

[pearl31]

Are you seriously arguing that NC State is decent at basketball this year?

hoping you're not really this clueless

 

[two3zone]

Are you seriously arguing that NC State is decent at basketball this year?

They have better wins than we do.

 

[dasher]

Better go back and replay that play. Player had his arm around Howard's neck enough to tug on him. Why do you think there was a double T?

There was a double T not because the guy had his arm around his neck but because he came back at Frank after Frank tossed him aside. It was a dumb thing to do.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

You think the game has changed that much since 2016?

This is another narrative that is so overplayed. We had a relatively easy path that year. Much like UConn's last title. But no one thinks ollie is a genius anymore.