I thought the same exact thing. I can't even imagine him stepping up to the mike and making a speech. In the end,I think this is just a decent guy who maybe suffers from severe social anxiety.
Marvin Harrison is in HOF class 2016!
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This post deserves way more likes than two.
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Kelly went to 4 Super Bowls. McNabb 1 (and he threw up in the game during the 4th quarter and crunch time).
CASE OVER!
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Coughlin looks huge in this pic compared to the other players. Even looks bigger than Csonka.
Who threw for like 370 yards and 3 tds. You should throw up like that. Get a clue
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You don't have a picture of him catching a pass from Glen Foley in the Dome, circa 1993?
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What about Gary Anderson? Think he makes it?
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I think Morten A needs to go first.
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And they lost! Look McNabb isn't a HOF QB. The debate is really silly honestly. He is a QB who has inflated stats because of the rule changes and the era he played in. Which is going to be a factor for most QB's going forward. The stats will be inflated due to the rule changes and how the league/game has changed over time. McNabb doesn't have impressive stats in reality and he never won anything and has some epic bad losses in playoff games.
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No chance. The biggest moment of his life he missed the kick (NFC Title game vs Atlanta). As a kicker your biggest moment ever can't be a "miss"
Next kicker in will be Adam Vinatieri and that is many many years away. Very tough to justify kickers getting into the HOF.
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You seem to be rooting hard against it for some reason. He wouldnt seem to have a great chance, but he's got more of a chance than you think he does IMO. He was one of the best QBs in the league for a decade. If we're doing the Jim Kelly thing...McNabb certainly didn't have a Thurman or a Reed(two hall of famers) to play with. He carried that offense by himself in many of those seasons.
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So no hope for Scott Norwood?
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Not sure about the decent guy part.. Still plenty of questions as far as what went down in Philly. He is a recluse and a loner and very well may have social anxiety issues. First ballot HOF credentials no matter how you slice it.
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How'd Kelley do in his four Superbowl appearances?
Well then he owes Frank Reich a lot of credit for one of those appearances. Each Divisions were quite different in those days. Buffalo had an easier path to get there.
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I'd say there are currently four unique possibilities for Alums out there remaining.
Coughlin
Freeney
McNabb
Anderson
I would say two more for sure, one is borderline, and one is long shot at best
Coughlin
Freeney
McNabb
Anderson
I would say two more for sure, one is borderline, and one is long shot at best
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He's 2nd all-time in league history in field goals made -- he will eventually get in.
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Not rooting hard for anything. Just having an honest and realistic talk about the situation
I would take that bet. Kickers almost never get in. You can count the number of them on one hand and Gary Anderson isn't getting into the HOF and I would bet a large sum of money on it
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You are comparing 4 to 1? Really? What is Kelly's record in Conference Championship Games? Wanna do that head to head with McNabb? That's what separates the greats from the good. Kelly won more conference titles and got to more Super Bowls than McNabb. Kelly had more "big" moments in big games. McNabb always came up short.
And Kelly played in the era where the rules weren't tilted towards the QB and it was easy to rack up big stats.
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IF it happens I will be the first one here to say I am wrong. I don't run, never do.
And I won't be pissed, in fact I hope I am wrong. I want more SU guys to get in, but in reality McNabb is NOT an NFL HOF QB. He just isn't. He wasn't even one of the best 3 QB's of his era.
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This is a team sport. Kelly played on better teams. Bruce, Thurman, and Reed are all hall of famers.
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McNabb is 14th all-time in wins, 21st in passing yards and 28th in passing TDs. I love McNabb (except when he's behind the wheel of a car) but I personally wouldn't vote him into the HOF. I think his rightful place is just on the outside looking in.
That said, your opinions are WAY too absolutist. The idea that he has "zero chance" is unrealistic. Try being more even-keeled.
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