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Class of 2018 PF Bryce Golden (MD) to Butler

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From the Illini board... one poster seems confident that he was told that Golden will commit to Illinois.

Hope this isn’t true...
 
orangecuse said:
So sensitive. Asinine and foolish are synonymous...just my opinion that saying the coaches have gone above and beyond is a foolish/asinine thing to say since it's a standard garden variety criteria of the job. No intent to insult, probably should have used a "softer" word. Peace.
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I think the point is that this situation is anything but garden variety. The staff is scrambling and seem to have rebounded nicely from a situation that is — in the very literal sense of the word — unprecedented.
 
We have to overcome a longer relationship illinois has with Golden after recruiting him the first time around. Cuse is a better program and he has a good opportunity here... but beating that comfort level will be tricky. Hopefully the cuse visit compacted 2 years of relationship building into a couple days.
 
SacKingCuse said:
Reading through their board somemore another poster mentioned that they were rumored to have gotten a verbal and Golden was one of two players that were mentioned to who it could have come from.

I’m sure that we’ll find out soon. If Braswell schedules an OV to Cuse it may be game over on Golden.

Here’s the link.
Fighting Illini Basketball: Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread - IllinoisLoyalty.com
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One of their posters thinks we may have passed. Don’t know where they’d get that from.
 
May be a dumb question but have we offered? Couldnt find on the beginning pages
 
If u have some time this is a interesting listen by a Illinois basketball junkie. All about bryce and his visit.

 
Illinois has a bad basketball program. They have won 2 NCAA tournament games in the last 12 years, the same number SU won a month ago (technically Syracuse won 3 NCAA games last month). Syracuse has been to 2 Final Fours more recently than the last time Illinois won an NCAA game. They have fired 2 HCs in the last 6 years and the new one is off to a horrendous start. If Bryce goes to Illinois, who knows who will actually coach him?

Attendance is collapsing and has gotten worse since this article was written:

Illini experience worst attendance numbers since 1978

It is 627 miles from Winchester, VA to Champaign, IL.

It is 364 miles from Winchester to Syracuse.

Driving distances to away conference games would of course be dramatically lower in the ACC compared to the B1G.

Recent Illinois Basketball History

2006–07 Bruce Weber 23–12 9–7 4th(T) NCAA Round of 64
2007–08 Bruce Weber 16–19 5–13 9th(T)
2008–09 Bruce Weber 24–10 11–7 2nd(T) NCAA Round of 64
2009–10 Bruce Weber 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Bruce Weber 20–14 9–9 4th NCAA Round of 32
2011–12 Bruce Weber 17–15 6–12 9th
Bruce Weber: 210–101 89–65
John Groce (2012–2017)
2012–13 John Groce 23–13 8–10 7th (T) NCAA Round of 32
2013–14 John Groce 20–15 7–11 8th (T) NIT 2nd round
2014–15 John Groce 19–14 9–9 7th (T) NIT 1st round
2015–16 John Groce 15–19 5–13 12th
2016–17 John Groce 18–14 8–10 9th
John Groce: 95–75 37–53
Jamall Walker (2017–2017)
2016–17 Jamall Walker (Interim) 2–1 – – NIT 3rd round
Jamall Walker: 2–1 --
Brad Underwood (2017–present)
2017–18 Brad Underwood 14–18 4–14 11th (T)

Academics are a push. The B1G is of course a far inferior league to the ACC, the top basketball conference in the country.

Bryce would of course be practicing against far better competition each day at Syracuse.

He would of course receive far better coaching at Syracuse under a legendary HOF coach instead of this guy who struggling to beat Rutgers.

The one thing Illinois has going for it is playing time. Given how awful their record has been, I assume they have no division 1 players and he would immediately be their best player.

It comes down to whether you want to play a lot against bad players, not get better, make it really hard for your family and friends to watch you play, lose 80 games during your college career and do something boring after college or if you want to play against the best competition possible, have your family and friends go to lots of games, win 100 games in your college career, go to a Final Four or two and play pro ball afterwards.
 
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sutomcat said:
Illinois has a bad basketball program. They have won 2 NCAA tournament games in the last 12 years, the same number SU won a month ago (technically Syracuse won 3 NCAA games last month). Syracuse has been to 2 Final Fours more recently than the last time Illinois won an NCAA game. They have fired 2 HCs in the last 6 years and the new one is off to a horrendous start. If Bryce goes to Illinois, who knows who will actually coach him?

Attendance is collapsing and has gotten worse since this article was written:

Illini experience worst attendance numbers since 1978

It is 627 miles from Winchester, VA to Champaign, IL.

It is 364 miles from Winchester to Syracuse.

Driving distances to away conference games would of course be dramatically lower in the ACC compared to the B1G.

Recent Illinois Basketball History

2006–07 Bruce Weber 23–12 9–7 4th(T) NCAA Round of 64
2007–08 Bruce Weber 16–19 5–13 9th(T)
2008–09 Bruce Weber 24–10 11–7 2nd(T) NCAA Round of 64
2009–10 Bruce Weber 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Bruce Weber 20–14 9–9 4th NCAA Round of 32
2011–12 Bruce Weber 17–15 6–12 9th
Bruce Weber: 210–101 89–65
John Groce (2012–2017)
2012–13 John Groce 23–13 8–10 7th (T) NCAA Round of 32
2013–14 John Groce 20–15 7–11 8th (T) NIT 2nd round
2014–15 John Groce 19–14 9–9 7th (T) NIT 1st round
2015–16 John Groce 15–19 5–13 12th
2016–17 John Groce 18–14 8–10 9th
John Groce: 95–75 37–53
Jamall Walker (2017–2017)
2016–17 Jamall Walker (Interim) 2–1 – – NIT 3rd round
Jamall Walker: 2–1 --
Brad Underwood (2017–present)
2017–18 Brad Underwood 14–18 4–14 11th (T)

Academics are a push. The B1G is of course a far inferior league to the ACC, the top basketball conference in the country.

Bryce would of course be practicing against far better competition each day at Syracuse.

He would of course receive far better coaching at Syracuse under a legendary HOF coach instead of this guy who struggling to beat Rutgers.

The one thing Illinois has going for it is playing time. Given how awful their record has been, I assume they have no division 1 players and he would immediately be their best player.

It comes down to whether you want to play a lot against bad players, not get better, make it really hard for your family and friends to watch you play, lose 80 games during your college career and do something boring after college or if you want to play against the best competition possible, have your family and friends go to lots of games, win 100 games in your college career, go to a Final Four or two and play pro ball afterwards.
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Great post and ao spot on. Illinois is horrible. If he decides to go that route, he would have been better off sticking with Pitt who will offer the most p/t due to the mass exodus, is much closer to home than illinois, and is in a far superior bball conference for exposure.
 
sutomcat said:
Illinois has a bad basketball program. They have won 2 NCAA tournament games in the last 12 years, the same number SU won a month ago (technically Syracuse won 3 NCAA games last month). Syracuse has been to 2 Final Fours more recently than the last time Illinois won an NCAA game. They have fired 2 HCs in the last 6 years and the new one is off to a horrendous start. If Bryce goes to Illinois, who knows who will actually coach him?

Attendance is collapsing and has gotten worse since this article was written:

Illini experience worst attendance numbers since 1978

It is 627 miles from Winchester, VA to Champaign, IL.

It is 364 miles from Winchester to Syracuse.

Driving distances to away conference games would of course be dramatically lower in the ACC compared to the B1G.

Recent Illinois Basketball History

2006–07 Bruce Weber 23–12 9–7 4th(T) NCAA Round of 64
2007–08 Bruce Weber 16–19 5–13 9th(T)
2008–09 Bruce Weber 24–10 11–7 2nd(T) NCAA Round of 64
2009–10 Bruce Weber 21–15 10–8 5th NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11 Bruce Weber 20–14 9–9 4th NCAA Round of 32
2011–12 Bruce Weber 17–15 6–12 9th
Bruce Weber: 210–101 89–65
John Groce (2012–2017)
2012–13 John Groce 23–13 8–10 7th (T) NCAA Round of 32
2013–14 John Groce 20–15 7–11 8th (T) NIT 2nd round
2014–15 John Groce 19–14 9–9 7th (T) NIT 1st round
2015–16 John Groce 15–19 5–13 12th
2016–17 John Groce 18–14 8–10 9th
John Groce: 95–75 37–53
Jamall Walker (2017–2017)
2016–17 Jamall Walker (Interim) 2–1 – – NIT 3rd round
Jamall Walker: 2–1 --
Brad Underwood (2017–present)
2017–18 Brad Underwood 14–18 4–14 11th (T)

Academics are a push. The B1G is of course a far inferior league to the ACC, the top basketball conference in the country.

Bryce would of course be practicing against far better competition each day at Syracuse.

He would of course receive far better coaching at Syracuse under a legendary HOF coach instead of this guy who struggling to beat Rutgers.

The one thing Illinois has going for it is playing time. Given how awful their record has been, I assume they have no division 1 players and he would immediately be their best player.

It comes down to whether you want to play a lot against bad players, not get better, make it really hard for your family and friends to watch you play, lose 80 games during your college career and do something boring after college or if you want to play against the best competition possible, have your family and friends go to lots of games, win 100 games in your college career, go to a Final Four or two and play pro ball afterwards.
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He picked Pitt over Illinois. Full stop.
 
JazzNC said:
Her tweet to Syracuse thanked the coaches and staff only, whereas her tweet to Illinois thanked the team and fans too. Mean anything???
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Yep
 
JazzNC said:
Her tweet to Syracuse thanked the coaches and staff only, whereas her tweet to Illinois thanked the team and fans too. Mean anything???
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Thanked team too. Same tweet minus fans.
 
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