What I expect at this point…

[Oakland]

The big men coaching thing is weird. Has Edwards not improved under Griff?

I think a bench coach and elite recruiter are much more important.

Have to think it is easier for a big man to recruit a big man. Not hard to image what is going on in minds of Filipowski, Clingan, etc. when they visit SU and are surrounded by ex-guard coaches 7-10" shorter than themselves.

 

[cuseguy]

Have to think it is easier for a big man to recruit a big man. Not hard to think about what is going on in minds of Filipowski, Clingan, etc. when they visit SU and are surrounded by ex-guard coaches 7-10" shorter than themselves.

Clingan was never leaving Connecticut.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Hop had a lot more success as a recruiter than Red. Not even worth debating.

Yeah and JB was 10-20 years younger.

 

[Oakland]

And Hop handpicked Kaleb. Sometimes top prospects flame out.

A lot of ours have.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Have to think it is easier for a big man to recruit a big man. Not hard to image what is going on in minds of Filipowski, Clingan, etc. when they visit SU and are surrounded by ex-guard coaches 7-10" shorter than themselves.

Who are the assistants at Duke and UConn that played center?

 

[MSOrange]

Who are the assistants at Duke and UConn that played center?

Duke does have Amile Jefferson but to your point, there are many staffs out there who don't have a big man coaching.

 

[BigNastyJon]

Have to think it is easier for a big man to recruit a big man. Not hard to image what is going on in minds of Filipowski, Clingan, etc. when they visit SU and are surrounded by ex-guard coaches 7-10" shorter than themselves.

Now imagine if the coaches were 5’7”!!

 

[ROCuse]

Hop's last year, HE stopped trying to recruit, and Boeheim didn't even notice.

Around this time was the famous photo of Boeheim sleeping at a basketball game with mouth agape.

Boeheim only would travel to New England to see prep schools that played against Buddy. That's where our recruits came from almost exclusively after Mike left.

The sleeping photo was from 2013.

 

[ORANGE OATH]

Bernie Fine did a great job coaching Bigs for us and he was nowhere near a giant, so does size really matter?

 

[cuseguy]

Bernie Fine did a great job coaching Bigs for us and he was nowhere near a giant, so does size really matter?

Ha! You set yourself up with that line.

 

[Madbiker]

And Hop handpicked Kaleb. Sometimes top prospects flame out.

Nobody bats 1.000

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Are you new here?

:looks around:

N... no.

 

[Cheriehoop]

What about the other 350+ schools ?

175 of them lose each time they meet too.

 

[Scooch]

Out of curiosity, did Red land any major recruits from his start with SU through 2016?

I get that JB has been more burden than draw in the past few years, so it may be tough to assess just how good a recruiter anyone on the staff may be. Things went horrifically south starting in 2017.

However, prior to that, we were landing classes with multiple top 100 guys. 2016 was Battle, Moyer and Thompson. 2015 was Malachi, Lydon and Howard (damn that was a good class). 2014 was McCullough and Joseph.

Was Red primarily responsible for any of those guys?

 

[HoustonCuse]

Etan could also be one of the top recruiters in the country if he wanted. Can you imagine the impression he'd make on kids and their parents?

Not sure why anyone thinks Etan would be a coach or recruiter. He’s been pretty clear that he thinks the entire enterprise is exploitive and racist. Pretty sure he’d see joining in that enterprise to be about equivalent to signing on as a guard at a concentration camp.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Seth Greenberg on the bench is actually a possibility? Please no

2X ACC coach of the year. Yeah, we couldn’t use that on our bench. SMH

 

[OrangePA]

The big men coaching thing is weird. Has Edwards not improved under Griff?

I think a bench coach and elite recruiter are much more important.

Jesse Edwards has improved more since his first year than any other player I have ever seen under Boeheim.

His improvement has been remarkable.

And he looks very well coached - he does fundamental things well - as well as I have seen for a big man.

 

[jordville]

Devo says one more year for Coach. He also says Red and Gmac are ready.

 

[Toga]

Basically what I heard last week as well with my since retired 'rumblings' thread.

Wish I knew more about why Red over GMac and retaining Autry. Not expressing a preference, just wondering why.

However, if I do express a preference, it would be to add 1-2 true big men coaches to the staff.

:looks around:

N... no.

 

[Scooch]

Out of curiosity, did Red land any major recruits from his start with SU through 2016?

I get that JB has been more burden than draw in the past few years, so it may be tough to assess just how good a recruiter anyone on the staff may be. Things went horrifically south starting in 2017.

However, prior to that, we were landing classes with multiple top 100 guys. 2016 was Battle, Moyer and Thompson. 2015 was Malachi, Lydon and Howard (damn that was a good class). 2014 was McCullough and Joseph.

Was Red primarily responsible for any of those guys?

Sooooo… nothing, eh? Really inspires confidence.

 

[llandz]

Can Red get JB to stay on as an assistant?!?!!!






Kidding

That thought crossed my mind. A one year assistant position...

 

[kingtidge]

That thought crossed my mind. A one year assistant position...

... and if Red gets off to a bad start, JB can just take back over...

 

[miamicuse]

... and if Red gets off to a bad start, JB can just take back over...

Not really, if Red learned from JB, then JB the assistant has no voice during the game.

 

[kingtidge]

Not really, if Red learned from JB, then JB the assistant has no voice during the game.

It was sarcasm.

 

[PhatOrange]

Ugh