10th full time assistant

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  1. MSOrange

    MSOrange Former Iggy Award Winner (used to be a big deal)

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    It looks like it's headed in the direction for the 10th full time assistant to get approved. What position group would you prefer we hire someone for? I really haven't decided - just looking to start a discussion.
     
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  2. PhatOrange

    PhatOrange Living Legend

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    Safety
    Cornerback
    Linebacker
    Defensive end
    Defensive tackle
    Offensive line (tackles / guards center)
    Tight end
    Wide receiver
    Running back
    Quarterback
     
  3. OrangeXtreme

    OrangeXtreme The Mayor of Dewitt Staff Member

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    Special Teams !!
     
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    OburgOrange All American

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    Special teams
     
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  5. MSOrange

    MSOrange Former Iggy Award Winner (used to be a big deal)

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    Somehow my math is not adding up or my brain is tired. We have 9 right now with Vinson Reynolds handling the whole defensive line and Nick Monroe the whole secondary. Somehow your list adds up to 10 with both of those splitting up into 2 separate coaches.
     
  6. OrangeXtreme

    OrangeXtreme The Mayor of Dewitt Staff Member

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    Phat forgot the OC and DC
     
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  7. Marroniac

    Marroniac Scout Team

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    Just give him a clipboard and send him out recruiting all year.
     
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  8. MSOrange

    MSOrange Former Iggy Award Winner (used to be a big deal)

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    Aha I knew there was something. I kept looking at the SU website and comparing the list. I would also look at special teams or my second choice would be splitting the corners and safeties into two coaches.
     
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  9. Ish88888

    Ish88888 All Conference

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    Tough call. The 10th guy could be valuable many ways. Specials are always a need. That said, we probably need another set of eyes on the Dline and secondary. Defense in general. Great to see dollars allocated to the coaching staff;)
     
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  10. PhatOrange

    PhatOrange Living Legend

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    I didn't include coordinators. Just positions. Coordinators are also position coaches. Have to be. Can't have just a full time specials coordinator, what's he going to do when the team is in their position groups or running Offense defense. Which is probably 95% of the practice

    I'd probably lean towards splitting the corners and safeties
     
  11. Trueblue25

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    Special Teams.
     
  12. MSOrange

    MSOrange Former Iggy Award Winner (used to be a big deal)

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    To add another part to my question, is there any particular recruiting territory you would also try to add with this hire?
     
  13. Alsacs

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    HC
    OC/ QBs
    DC/ another position
    OL
    WR
    TE
    DL
    LB
    DB

    Make the 10th coach Special teams.
     
  14. LeMoyneCuse

    LeMoyneCuse All Conference

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    The problem with a dedicated special teams coach is that there's not enough for him to do on a daily basis. College football is all about development, and no one is going to be a dedicated special teams player. So unless there's someone who is a kicking coach, it wouldn't make sense.
     
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    bnoro Hall of Fame

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    I'm interested to see if schools hire a specific recruiting coach. Could see an SEC program doing it. A school like Bama could hire Locksley to just go recruit full time.
     
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    retro44 Women's Athletic Director

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    And for schools in the red,good luck
     
  17. dasher

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    No special teams?
     
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    punting analyst
     
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    kirbivore All American

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    hire that dude who posts here bitching and moaning that SU didn't hire him full time.
     
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  20. jtorange

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    I didn't think DC's Ward or Bullough coached a position. Am I mistaken?
     
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    Combine TE and WR
    Add special teams
     
  22. PhatOrange

    PhatOrange Living Legend

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    Kaufman is the current special teams coordinator and also coaches linebackers
     
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  23. BlazeOrange

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    Here’s the current staff and responsibilities:

    1. Brian Ward Defensive Coordinator

    2. Sean Lewis Co-Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks

    3. Mike Lynch Co-Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line

    4. Kim McCloud Assistant Head Coach/Wide Receivers

    5. Tom Kaufman Special Teams Coordinator/Linebackers

    6. Reno Ferri Tight Ends

    7. Mike Hart Running Backs

    8. Nick Monroe Secondary

    9. Vinson Reynolds Defensive Line

    If #10 is added on offense, I’d remove the co-coordinator designations and promote one to full-time coordinator (give the other a meaningless AHC title for consolation if needed). Then bring in one more to have dedicated QB and Line coaches.

    If #10 is added on defense, I’d split the secondary into Cornerback and Safety coaches. I’d prefer that one of these is also the Special Teams coach instead of the LB coach, as they should be able to cover for each other when the coach is working with specials.

    I think the second option of adding a 5th coach on the D-side has the most benefit. However, didn't Dino use multiple WR coaches in the past? Inside/outside or something like that?
     
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  24. Frozen

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    As I mentioned in the coaching carousel thread, Chris White was dropped by Iowa. I'd like to have him back here. Either him or Nick Saban.
     
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  25. PhatOrange

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    wont happen but white would definitley give us a boost in the Philly/DC market to go with Reno.