I'm more of a larger sample kinda guy.
This isn’t even good. You could do a lot better. I mean up your freaking game.
Gray was pitching exceptionally well for the A's for a long stretch before the the trade, then was solid for the Yankees (with little run support) until recently. If he stays healthy (no guarantee with any starter these days) he will be a big piece for the Yankees.
Clippard blew about 8 in a 2 week period all by himself.
How many foul ball outs every game does a Oakland pitcher get that they wouldn't get anywhere else?
Steve Matz??????? What pitcher were you watching? Didn't he go like 2-7? I don't think he has ever won 10 games in a season.
I would take Steven Matz over Sonny Gray.
I 100% agree with this, it's 1 of my talking points too.
Probably fewer than you would imagine. My guess is slightly less than 1.
So what? Guys with "stuff" area dime a dozen. He doesn't belong on that list. He has done less than nothing. Oh, and Grey is 27 and Matz is 26. Not really a difference there.
I strongly disagree.
He's also been incredibly injury-prone. No thanks.
I'm sure there are advanced metrics that measure this. Just don't know how to find them. Maybe someone in this thread could help us out.
Oakland also seems like a bigger park (that we could check). I wonder how many HR's are hit there compared to other parks in the A.L.?
Left handed starting pitchers with plus stuff are not a dime a dozen.
That we could find easily. In any event, we could always look at anyone's stats normalized to remove park factors on baseball-reference.com
Of course I'm right. The numbers tell you I'm right. Steve Matz is no where near the top 60 pitchers in baseball and quite frankly, no where near Sonny Grey. Could he have a big year down the road, sure. But as of right now, he is a product on New York hype. If he didn't pitch on the east coast, you wouldn't know his name. Either would anyone else.
40's is a solid #2. I only looked at the American League (since that is what I really follow, other than the Mets, who I get all of their games. I agree with most of yours, except I think you left some guys out that if G.M.s were given a choice between grey and this guy, they would take the other guy. People on that list include; Chris Archer (don't love him but he has only pitched in the A.L. East and those hitters ball parks) Marco Estrada, he had the best whip in the American League just last year. Toronto just gave him a nice contract off a off year so ...
