2019 Fall Ball ...

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Powellfan]

Quick takeaways:
-The old offense relied on pulling slides away from the crease, the new stresses "adjacent" slides - coaching staff will try and utilize both. Current players seem to like new offense, seems like they are moving the ball much faster.
-Scanlan impressing, Mellen compares him to Jeff Teat, says he is a better passer than he expected him to be.
-Cook seems to be impressing the coaching staff.
-Mentions usual suspects on defense, also says Fernandez has looked good and might allow for Kennedy to play more close. I'd personally be surprised if this happens but we'll see.

 

[ivorytower]

Just a fall scrimmage but bit discomforting. Once activities resumed, only 5 weeks to rid the hiccups before opener.

 

[Powellfan]

Pat March making an impact
"The Orange grabbed assistant Pat March to run the offense. His experience at Princeton, where he ran a Top 10 offense, was apparent in the fall. It’s more fast-paced, motion-oriented with drives from the wings. It will at the very least, provide a change-up from last year’s offense, and possibly unless players like Tucker Dordevic and Chase Scanlan."

Last sentence doesn't make sense ... but at least they got recognition. I think they meant "unleash", instead of unless? Typos at IL are out of control these days.

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[ivorytower]

Pat March making an impact
"The Orange grabbed assistant Pat March to run the offense. His experience at Princeton, where he ran a Top 10 offense, was apparent in the fall. It’s more fast-paced, motion-oriented with drives from the wings. It will at the very least, provide a change-up from last year’s offense, and possibly unless players like Tucker Dordevic and Chase Scanlan."

Last sentence doesn't make sense ... but at least they got recognition. I think they meant "unleash", instead of unless? Typos at IL are out of control these days.

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Not meant for statement but rather questions

1q, Reading how March's scheme causes adjacent slides vs those from near crease. What type of player/position benefits most from that?. Is it a dodger , a step down shooter or still spread on ball movement?
2nd, read O stagnated some as Lehigh packed it in. Is this were a breakdown player ie Sowers is needed to open space or do we need to revert back to Dono's scheme that frankly produced for most ?

 

[Faegan]

Not meant for statement but rather questions

1q, Reading how March's scheme causes adjacent slides vs those from near crease. What type of player/position benefits most from that?. Is it a dodger , a step down shooter or still spread on ball movement?
2nd, read O stagnated some as Lehigh packed it in. Is this were a breakdown player ie Sowers is needed to open space or do we need to revert back to Dono's scheme that frankly produced for most ?

By packing it in I assume they mean they played a zone d. Typically you're trying to attack the areas in between the defenders or the corners to get the D into a 2 on 3, or 3 on 4, disadvantage to create space to shoot.

Here's a video of how Duke did it to us in the 2013 Natty:



By rotating the players you essentially are trying to force the D to make a mistake in how they are supposed to rotate with the direction of the ball. In this case they were popping Jordan Wolf up high. It took a few attempts but eventually we made a mistake and they were able to score.

(As an aside, Lacrosse Film Room is addictive - I can watch it for hours!)

 

[ivorytower]

Thanks Faegan, that was awesome.

 

[ohmilax34]

I'm not sure if Lehigh played a zone or not. I wasn't there, but I would be kinda surprised if a team played zone in fall ball unless it was something they want to do a lot in the spring.

To attack a zone, you need all the components that you need to attack a man to man, but they need to be coordinated differently.

 

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[Powellfan]

Syracuse has biggest, and most loyal fan base according to IL, based on social media -

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[Orangelax]

He donated $500 but the leaderboard says they've only received $ 279 total.

 

[DoctahLexus]

Syracuse has biggest, and most loyal fan base according to IL, based on social media -

Which Teams Have the Most Loyal Fanbases? Which Overlap the Most?

Syracuse has not won an NCAA title since 2009 but is dominating DI men’s lacrosse in at least one aspect. When it comes to reach on

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Damn right. And I doubt it even takes into account all of the freaks and fanatics at syracusefan.com.

 

[Powellfan]

"Chase Scanlan is the new No. 22. The former Loyola midfielder landed at Syracuse—where he was formerly committed before going to the ‘Hounds for a fantastic freshman season. It wasn’t the only happening at Syracuse, which added Pat March to the staff after the departure of Kevin Donahue. The flip of Owen Hiltz to the program could be a sign of things to come from offensive coordinator Pat March, who also reworked the offense in fallball."

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[ivorytower]

StatisticTeamNational
RankValueNational LeaderValue

Assists Per Game (73 ranked)	Virginia Syracuse Duke North Carolina Notre Dame	7 27 32 45 60​	8.60 6.93 6.78 6.20 5.38​	Penn St.	10.83​
Caused Turnovers Per Game (73 ranked)	Virginia Syracuse North Carolina Duke Notre Dame	17 23 35 38 54​	9.30 8.86 7.87 7.44 6.94​	Boston U.	11.71​
Clearing Percentage (73 ranked)	Notre Dame Syracuse North Carolina Duke Virginia	9 24 34 39 47​	0.871 0.853 0.839 0.833 0.820​	Ohio St.	0.892​
Face-Off Winning Percentage (73 ranked)	Notre Dame Virginia Syracuse Duke North Carolina	19 21 23 33 40​	0.580 0.573 0.566 0.509 0.487​	Yale	0.751​
Ground Balls Per Game (73 ranked)	Virginia Syracuse Duke North Carolina Notre Dame	1 7 24 34 43​	41.55 36.71 32.83 31.80 29.88​	Virginia	41.55​
Man-Down Defense (73 ranked)	North Carolina Syracuse Virginia Notre Dame Duke	14 24 27 37 58​	0.707 0.680 0.675 0.652 0.589​	Manhattan	0.833​
Man-Up Offense (73 ranked)	Syracuse Notre Dame North Carolina Virginia Duke	3 20 22 33 36​	0.480 0.403 0.400 0.347 0.339​	Penn St.	0.613​
Opponent Clear Percentage (73 ranked)	Virginia North Carolina Duke Syracuse Notre Dame	2 12 24 31 46​	0.711 0.783 0.825 0.832 0.852​	Cleveland St.	0.707​
Points Per Game (73 ranked)	Virginia Syracuse Duke North Carolina Notre Dame	7 19 25 28 47​	22.70 19.79 19.00 18.60 16.88​	Penn St.	28.78​
Saves Per Game (73 ranked)	Syracuse Virginia North Carolina Notre Dame Duke	15 47 60 63 64​	13.36 11.50 10.60 10.00 9.94​	St. Bonaventure	16.23​
Scoring Defense (73 ranked)	Duke Notre Dame Syracuse Virginia North Carolina	7 14 15 18 22​	9.61 10.13 10.14 10.25 10.47​	Air Force	8.00​
Scoring Margin (73 ranked)	Virginia Syracuse Duke North Carolina Notre Dame	4 12 13 20 25​	3.85 2.71 2.61 1.93 1.38​	Penn St.	6.89​
Scoring Offense (73 ranked)	Virginia Syracuse North Carolina Duke Notre Dame	7 15 20 21 34​	14.10 12.86 12.40 12.22 11.50​	Penn St.	17.94​
Shot Percentage (73 ranked)	Virginia Duke North Carolina Notre Dame Syracuse	14 15 20 22 27​	0.311 0.309 0.305 0.303 0.294​	Penn St.	0.434​
Turnovers Per Game (73 ranked)	Syracuse North Carolina Duke Virginia Notre Dame	4 9 18 26 44​	14.14 14.67 15.11 15.60 17.06​	Georgetown	13.67​
Winning Percentage (73 ranked)	Virginia Duke Syracuse Notre Dame North Carolina	2 6 20 25 29​	0.850 0.722 0.643 0.563 0.533​	Penn St.	0.889​

 

[Powellfan]

Thanks IT - I think the big takeaway is the shooting percentage is so low, last in the ACC and more than 10 points lower than leader Penn State. I wonder where they stood in terms of shots per game? I do like seeing that they led the ACC in fewest turnovers per game and the rest of the stats were near the top of the ACC for the most part. Think if the team improves shooting percentage they can really go places. Hopefully hiring March and bringing in Scanlan will help that.

 

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[ivorytower]

Thanks IT - I think the big takeaway is the shooting percentage is so low, last in the ACC and more than 10 points lower than leader Penn State. I wonder where they stood in terms of shots per game? I do like seeing that they led the ACC in fewest turnovers per game and the rest of the stats were near the top of the ACC for the most part. Think if the team improves shooting percentage they can really go places. Hopefully hiring March and bringing in Scanlan will help that.

Powell. Nod to Donahue on those man up stats too, hope we dont change that formula. Scanlan will be as dangerous on man up as Solomon, Voight and Trimboli were in 19.

Both Voigt and Solomon had very high sog of 70 % and 44% sh. Scanlan (e 34/16) was 70 sog % with 36% sh for Loyola. 5th yr Refhuss (e 20/30) likely bounces up sh% and assist totals with good health and surrounding cast .Cook and Seebold looked good in preseason but very unlikely to match output of either of the departed. Unit bring different look/ capabilities and combined stats may not tell full story, be more about synergies and overall output of entire offense.

Trimboli, Curry and Lipka all had much higher shooting % in 2018 and little reason under this scheme for them not to revert back and raise to over 30% sh . Same % achievable by Dordevic .Hard to expect Buttermore to be more accurate.

Team has more mobility and dodging ability and should be able to create better scoring opportunities for each other as long as ball is moved .

Played sabertician vs schedule and project overall scoring and assists averages bumping up to 14.2 and 7.6 which would be nice if ever realized

 

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[ThundrTroll]

Albany must be the #1 seed. No one is beating them from the neck up.

 

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[DoctahLexus]

Not sure if anyone got a chance to listen to this. Almost all of it is rather vague as you might expect, but he mentions that Brandon Aviles "can play both offense and defense" and has been doing well in practice. Nice to hear something positive about a true freshman that early. Only names DePietro as a definite close D replacement and says he can also play LSM.
Also mentions a name I honestly don't think I have ever heard before, Sam Schluter, who he says is a potential backup LSM. Said he is coming back this year after a year off and I now see that he is listed as 6'5 on the team v team scrimmage roster and taking Swigart's number 28. Listed as a Junior but would be nice if he is actually a redshirt sophmore, due to the upcoming graduating Junior class apocalypse.

Makes a point of mentioning Dami's return when first talking about SSDMs. Judging by his words here, and the amount of PT he got in the Denver scrimmage, Desko seems bullish on his level of talent.

 

[orange79]

Not sure if anyone got a chance to listen to this. Almost all of it is rather vague as you might expect, but he mentions that Brandon Aviles "can play both offense and defense" and has been doing well in practice. Nice to hear something positive about a true freshman that early. Only names DePietro as a definite close D replacement and says he can also play LSM.
Also mentions a name I honestly don't think I have ever heard before, Sam Schluter, who he says is a potential backup LSM. Said he is coming back this year after a year off and I now see that he is listed as 6'5 on the team v team scrimmage roster and taking Swigart's number 28. Listed as a Junior but would be nice if he is actually a redshirt sophmore, due to the upcoming graduating Junior class apocalypse.

Makes a point of mentioning Dami's return when first talking about SSDMs. Judging by his words here, and the amount of PT he got in the Denver scrimmage, Desko seems bullish on his level of talent.

Not sure about the "year off" comment. According to his bio on cuse.com, he played (sparingly) both his freshman (2018) and soph (2019) years.