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Ok fellas this is all we got from the scrimmage. Time to dissect the clips that we saw. My first initial thoughts is C jackson standing out. Next up is Duece. He continues to make plays in these clips. He seems to be as advertised. Not bad for a guy with DE speed. Isiah Jones made plays. Howard looks thinner and more elusive. Tucker continues to impress. Lutz is running hard. I like what Max Mang is doing. Not going to over analyze these short clips but it looks like the line is run blocking a lot better. Defensively it didnt look like we had many guys out of position it just looked like offensive guys wanted it more. They made the 50/50 plays. RB's were breaking tackles. Again, its a scrimmage and we saw limited clips. Can't form too many opinions from it. Thoughts?
 
money3189 said:
Ok fellas this is all we got from the scrimmage. Time to dissect the clips that we saw. My first initial thoughts is C jackson standing out. Next up is Duece. He continues to make plays in these clips. He seems to be as advertised. Not bad for a guy with DE speed. Isiah Jones made plays. Howard looks thinner and more elusive. Tucker continues to impress. Lutz is running hard. I like what Max Mang is doing. Not going to over analyze these short clips but it looks like the line is run blocking a lot better. Defensively it didnt look like we had many guys out of position it just looked like offensive guys wanted it more. They made the 50/50 plays. RB's were breaking tackles. Again, its a scrimmage and we saw limited clips. Can't form too many opinions from it. Thoughts?
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Yep
 
money3189 said:
Ok fellas this is all we got from the scrimmage. Time to dissect the clips that we saw. My first initial thoughts is C jackson standing out. Next up is Duece. He continues to make plays in these clips. He seems to be as advertised. Not bad for a guy with DE speed. Isiah Jones made plays. Howard looks thinner and more elusive. Tucker continues to impress. Lutz is running hard. I like what Max Mang is doing. Not going to over analyze these short clips but it looks like the line is run blocking a lot better. Defensively it didnt look like we had many guys out of position it just looked like offensive guys wanted it more. They made the 50/50 plays. RB's were breaking tackles. Again, its a scrimmage and we saw limited clips. Can't form too many opinions from it. Thoughts?
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My thought is based on what you described we're winning 7 games, potentially 8 depending on the bowl match up.
 
money3189 said:
Ok fellas this is all we got from the scrimmage. Time to dissect the clips that we saw. My first initial thoughts is C jackson standing out. Next up is Duece. He continues to make plays in these clips. He seems to be as advertised. Not bad for a guy with DE speed. Isiah Jones made plays. Howard looks thinner and more elusive. Tucker continues to impress. Lutz is running hard. I like what Max Mang is doing. Not going to over analyze these short clips but it looks like the line is run blocking a lot better. Defensively it didnt look like we had many guys out of position it just looked like offensive guys wanted it more. They made the 50/50 plays. RB's were breaking tackles. Again, its a scrimmage and we saw limited clips. Can't form too many opinions from it. Thoughts?
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Was it a scrimmage or just practice?
 
money3189 said:
Ok fellas this is all we got from the scrimmage. Time to dissect the clips that we saw. My first initial thoughts is C jackson standing out. Next up is Duece. He continues to make plays in these clips. He seems to be as advertised. Not bad for a guy with DE speed. Isiah Jones made plays. Howard looks thinner and more elusive. Tucker continues to impress. Lutz is running hard. I like what Max Mang is doing. Not going to over analyze these short clips but it looks like the line is run blocking a lot better. Defensively it didnt look like we had many guys out of position it just looked like offensive guys wanted it more. They made the 50/50 plays. RB's were breaking tackles. Again, its a scrimmage and we saw limited clips. Can't form too many opinions from it. Thoughts?
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Looked physical and competitive. No more slow motion side arm finesse camera pans from la familia. Looks like the tone’s being set early.
 
money3189 said:
Ok fellas this is all we got from the scrimmage. Time to dissect the clips that we saw. My first initial thoughts is C jackson standing out. Next up is Duece. He continues to make plays in these clips. He seems to be as advertised. Not bad for a guy with DE speed. Isiah Jones made plays. Howard looks thinner and more elusive. Tucker continues to impress. Lutz is running hard. I like what Max Mang is doing. Not going to over analyze these short clips but it looks like the line is run blocking a lot better. Defensively it didnt look like we had many guys out of position it just looked like offensive guys wanted it more. They made the 50/50 plays. RB's were breaking tackles. Again, its a scrimmage and we saw limited clips. Can't form too many opinions from it. Thoughts?
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Good observations.

Some general thoughts….

Looking at the highlights so far, it looks like Tucker, Howard and Lutz are all playing at a high level at RB. They look really good. Add in Hough and the RB room looks really solid this season

Looks like they are taking pains to not show the starters on the OL. I am not sure they have been decided yet. Bergeron is going to be the LT, After that, I am not sure. I would have written Dakota Davis in as one of the starters at OG as well if he was healthyit sounds like he is going to be fine by the start of the season. I am 95% sure Servais is going to play at RT.

Saw Ilaoa working with the 3rd OL at C in Bailey’s videos. Bleich is apparently getting at least some work at center. I think Froumy, Ilaoa and Vetterello are all also in the mix at center. I am guessing the staff identified the center position as the biggest issue on the OL during the spring and is still trying to determine what player is the best fit for that key position. Hoping for Bleich or Froumy. Really want a big, really strong guy in the middle that will not get pushed around.

It looks like a lot of guys are in the mix for PT at WR. Harris, Queeley and Jackson are surely going to get a ton of looks. Williams might be our 4th WR right now. Alford, Jones and maybe Gadsden II appear to be fighting it out for roles. The battle for playing time among all these guys is really interesting to me.

Is Pena returning punts? Is Williams going to be the punter?

Sure looks like this is Tommy’s team. Wish I was seeing more passes directed to our TEs.

On defense, things look a lot more defined. We know who is going to play on the DL. Jones, Thompson, Cantin-Arcu and Wax appear to be pretty locked in to play the LB positions.

In the secondary, unless we have injuries, it looks like Williams and Chestnut are locked in as the starters at CB. Carter is going to start at one of the safety positions. Sure looks like Simmons is going to start at another safety position. The other spot looks like a place where there is a lot of competition. Greenwood, Hanna, Cole, LaBrosse, Barron, Coley…lots of players appear to be in the mix. I think LaBrosse has the highest ceiling and for now anyway, my money is on him winning a starting role.

I think if/when Nunn gets the okay to fully participate, he will probably get some PT at CB. I bet the staff would like to split a starting role at CB with Neil and Chestnut to start the season.
 
sutomcat said:
Good observations.

Some general thoughts….

Looking at the highlights so far, it looks like Tucker, Howard and Lutz are all playing at a high level at RB. They look really good. Add in Hough and the RB room looks really solid this season

Looks like they are taking pains to not show the starters on the OL. I am not sure they have been decided yet. Bergeron is going to be the LT, After that, I am not sure. I would have written Dakota Davis in as one of the starters at OG as well if he was healthyit sounds like he is going to be fine by the start of the season. I am 95% sure Servais is going to play at RT.

Saw Ilaoa working with the 3rd OL at C in Bailey’s videos. Bleich is apparently getting at least some work at center. I think Froumy, Ilaoa and Vetterello are all also in the mix at center. I am guessing the staff identified the center position as the biggest issue on the OL during the spring and is still trying to determine what player is the best fit for that key position. Hoping for Bleich or Froumy. Really want a big, really strong guy in the middle that will not get pushed around.

It looks like a lot of guys are in the mix for PT at WR. Harris, Queeley and Jackson are surely going to get a ton of looks. Williams might be our 4th WR right now. Alford, Jones and maybe Gadsden II appear to be fighting it out for roles. The battle for playing time among all these guys is really interesting to me.

Is Pena returning punts? Is Williams going to be the punter?

Sure looks like this is Tommy’s team. Wish I was seeing more passes directed to our TEs.

On defense, things look a lot more defined. We know who is going to play on the DL. Jones, Thompson, Cantin-Arcu and Wax appear to be pretty locked in to play the LB positions.

In the secondary, unless we have injuries, it looks like Williams and Chestnut are locked in as the starters at CB. Carter is going to start at one of the safety positions. Sure looks like Simmons is going to start at another safety position. The other spot looks like a place where there is a lot of competition. Greenwood, Hanna, Cole, LaBrosse, Barron, Coley…lots of players appear to be in the mix. I think LaBrosse has the highest ceiling and for now anyway, my money is on him winning a starting role.

I think if/when Nunn gets the okay to fully participate, he will probably get some PT at CB. I bet the staff would like to split a starting role at CB with Neil and Chestnut to start the season.
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Agree center is the biggest concern on the Oline. Vet to me does not get the push up front they need. Probably reason they brought in Sheer. I do not see him making an immediate push because of his late addition. Fromney, ulloa or bleech would be a good fit but moving bleech weakens us at right guard.
Not sold this is Tommy’s team. The concern is his only pass was to Harris. I’ve always felt he focus on one receiver and does not go through his progressions. People will argue he had no time but he did the same thing with Jackson. Through into double coverage while Harris was wide open. Reason Harris was jumping up and down and made that season. Harris is our number 1 and will face double coverage. He will make a number of plays but does not mean he is the best option on every throw. TD talks about getting the ball out faster but if that means always going with your first read it will not work.
The thing I liked about Sharder is it appears he went through his progressions. Let’s be honest you know the staff did not call two passes to the tight ends out of four possessions. He clearly went through his progressions and hit the open receiver. He also stayed in the pocket and made the throw instead of always running when his first option was covered.
D to me is going to be a real strength. DBs may be young in age but a lot got significant playing time last year.
WR will be interesting to see who steps up. I really feel samuels will raise the play of the entire group.
 
AngryOtto said:
Agree center is the biggest concern on the Oline. Vet to me does not get the push up front they need. Probably reason they brought in Sheer. I do not see him making an immediate push because of his late addition. Fromney, ulloa or bleech would be a good fit but moving bleech weakens us at right guard.
Not sold this is Tommy’s team. The concern is his only pass was to Harris. I’ve always felt he focus on one receiver and does not go through his progressions. People will argue he had no time but he did the same thing with Jackson. Through into double coverage while Harris was wide open. Reason Harris was jumping up and down and made that season. Harris is our number 1 and will face double coverage. He will make a number of plays but does not mean he is the best option on every throw. TD talks about getting the ball out faster but if that means always going with your first read it will not work.
The thing I liked about Sharder is it appears he went through his progressions. Let’s be honest you know the staff did not call two passes to the tight ends out of four possessions. He clearly went through his progressions and hit the open receiver. He also stayed in the pocket and made the throw instead of always running when his first option was covered.
D to me is going to be a real strength. DBs may be young in age but a lot got significant playing time last year.
WR will be interesting to see who steps up. I really feel samuels will raise the play of the entire group.
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is there video I am missing of the full scrimmage? How do we know Tommy only threw 1 pass?
 
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