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2022 Yankees Season

donniesyracuse said:
MLB and the Hall of Fame are separate entities.
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That's correct but MLB can make those players "eligible" and then there is no stopping the HOF voters at that point.

www.espn.com

HOF: Death won't get ineligible players into Hall

The Baseball Hall of Fame on Saturday said that death does not open the door for players on MLB's ineligible list to be placed on the ballot for entry into Cooperstown.
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donniesyracuse said:
Bonds is eligible
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As is Clemens, "wink, wink". But actually, I believe, their ten years is up. Except for the writers who excluded them, I have a hard time believing that any "normal" fan doesn't think what they did was any worse than what a least 51% of the players were doing including Big Papi. Why would MLB perpetuate the myth that only a couple guys were cheating and give a free pass to others. Meanwhile, the owners all got richy rich.

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Bonds and Clemens miss out on Hall of Fame, leaving baseball world in disbelief

Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds were once again left out of the Baseball Hall of Fame after falling short on their 10th and final year on the writers' ballot. Following the announcement, fans, players and media took to Twitter to share their thoughts on what some are calling a "brutal look" for...
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cliftonparksufan said:
As is Clemens, "wink, wink". But actually, I believe, their ten years is up. Except for the writers who excluded them, I have a hard time believing that any "normal" fan doesn't think what they did was any worse than what a least 51% of the players were doing including Big Papi. Why would MLB perpetuate the myth that only a couple guys were cheating and give a free pass to others. Meanwhile, the owners all got richy rich.

www.sportsnet.ca

Bonds and Clemens miss out on Hall of Fame, leaving baseball world in disbelief

Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds were once again left out of the Baseball Hall of Fame after falling short on their 10th and final year on the writers' ballot. Following the announcement, fans, players and media took to Twitter to share their thoughts on what some are calling a "brutal look" for...
www.sportsnet.ca www.sportsnet.ca
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I'm not a big fan of Ortiz being in.
 
I don’t think the average “sports fan” has any clue that we are in a significantly offensively suppressed era and the straight numbers players are putting up offensively have to be normalized to the era . Just look at what an OPS+ of 100 translates to statistically in 2022 vs 2019. It’s a massive difference. All this to say, judges year has been incredible. And as I have stated before , I hate the Yankees and am not a fan
 
STEVEHOLT said:
I don’t think the average “sports fan” has any clue that we are in a significantly offensively suppressed era and the straight numbers players are putting up offensively have to be normalized to the era . Just look at what an OPS+ of 100 translates to statistically in 2022 vs 2019. It’s a massive difference. All this to say, judges year has been incredible. And as I have stated before , I hate the Yankees and am not a fan
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Yeah, Judge finished with a 207 wRC+. League average in any season is 100. I have to go back to look, but I believe the only players to finish seasons with better wRC+ are Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, and Rogers Hornsby.

Looking back at Bonds, it’s amazing how much better he was than everyone even in the steroid era.
 
Here are the final Combined WAR (Pitching & Position Player) numbers for the Yankees. This only includes games these guys played as Yankees.

#NameTeamPAIPBat WARPit WARTotal WAR
1Aaron JudgeNYY69611.411.4
2Jose TrevinoNYY3533.73.7
3Nestor CortesNYY158.10.03.63.6
4Gerrit ColeNYY200.20.03.33.3
5DJ LeMahieuNYY5413.03.0
6Gleyber TorresNYY5722.72.7
7Anthony RizzoNYY5482.42.4
8Matt CarpenterNYY1542.32.3
9Jameson TaillonNYY177.10.02.32.3
10Josh DonaldsonNYY5461.71.7
11Kyle HigashiokaNYY2481.71.7
12Michael KingNYY51.00.01.71.7
13Aaron HicksNYY4531.41.4
14Luis SeverinoNYY102.00.01.41.4
15Isiah Kiner-FalefaNYY5311.31.3
16Jordan MontgomeryNYY114.20.01.31.3
17Oswaldo CabreraNYY1711.31.3
18Giancarlo StantonNYY4521.21.2
19Clay HolmesNYY63.20.01.11.1
20Wandy PeraltaNYY56.10.00.90.9
21Lucas LuetgeNYY57.10.00.90.9
22Andrew BenintendiNYY1310.80.8
23Domingo GermánNYY72.10.00.70.7
24Clarke SchmidtNYY57.20.00.50.5
25Ron MarinaccioNYY44.00.00.40.4
26Jonathan LoáisigaNYY48.00.00.40.4
27JP SearsNYY22.00.00.40.4
28Oswald PerazaNYY570.30.3
29Chad GreenNYY15.00.00.30.3
30Albert AbreuNYY25.20.00.30.3
31Joey GalloNYY2730.30.3
32Lou TrivinoNYY21.20.00.20.2
33Luis GilNYY4.00.00.20.2
34Scott EffrossNYY12.20.00.10.1
35Marwin GonzalezNYY2070.10.10.00.1
36Frankie MontasNYY39.20.00.10.1
37Chi Chi GonzálezNYY4.20.00.10.1
38Manny BañuelosNYY8.10.00.10.1
39Miguel CastroNYY29.00.00.10.1
40Rob BrantlyNYY30.00.0
41Jacob BarnesNYY1.20.00.00.0
42Luke BardNYY1.00.00.00.0
43Ryan WeberNYY10.20.00.00.0
44Tim LocastroNYY460.00.0
45David McKayNYY2.00.00.00.0
46Greg WeissertNYY11.10.00.00.0
47Miguel AndújarNYY100-0.1-0.1
48Harrison BaderNYY49-0.1-0.1
49Shane GreeneNYY1.00.0-0.1-0.1
50Anthony BandaNYY0.20.0-0.1-0.1
51Ronald GuzmánNYY6-0.1-0.1
52Zack BrittonNYY0.20.0-0.2-0.2
53Aroldis ChapmanNYY36.10.0-0.2-0.2
54Estevan FlorialNYY35-0.4-0.4
 
Wow, Zack Britton managed to do a helluva amount of damage in less than 1 inning!
 
donniesyracuse said:
Here are the final Combined WAR (Pitching & Position Player) numbers for the Yankees. This only includes games these guys played as Yankees.

#NameTeamPAIPBat WARPit WARTotal WAR
1Aaron JudgeNYY69611.411.4
2Jose TrevinoNYY3533.73.7
3Nestor CortesNYY158.10.03.63.6
4Gerrit ColeNYY200.20.03.33.3
5DJ LeMahieuNYY5413.03.0
6Gleyber TorresNYY5722.72.7
7Anthony RizzoNYY5482.42.4
8Matt CarpenterNYY1542.32.3
9Jameson TaillonNYY177.10.02.32.3
10Josh DonaldsonNYY5461.71.7
11Kyle HigashiokaNYY2481.71.7
12Michael KingNYY51.00.01.71.7
13Aaron HicksNYY4531.41.4
14Luis SeverinoNYY102.00.01.41.4
15Isiah Kiner-FalefaNYY5311.31.3
16Jordan MontgomeryNYY114.20.01.31.3
17Oswaldo CabreraNYY1711.31.3
18Giancarlo StantonNYY4521.21.2
19Clay HolmesNYY63.20.01.11.1
20Wandy PeraltaNYY56.10.00.90.9
21Lucas LuetgeNYY57.10.00.90.9
22Andrew BenintendiNYY1310.80.8
23Domingo GermánNYY72.10.00.70.7
24Clarke SchmidtNYY57.20.00.50.5
25Ron MarinaccioNYY44.00.00.40.4
26Jonathan LoáisigaNYY48.00.00.40.4
27JP SearsNYY22.00.00.40.4
28Oswald PerazaNYY570.30.3
29Chad GreenNYY15.00.00.30.3
30Albert AbreuNYY25.20.00.30.3
31Joey GalloNYY2730.30.3
32Lou TrivinoNYY21.20.00.20.2
33Luis GilNYY4.00.00.20.2
34Scott EffrossNYY12.20.00.10.1
35Marwin GonzalezNYY2070.10.10.00.1
36Frankie MontasNYY39.20.00.10.1
37Chi Chi GonzálezNYY4.20.00.10.1
38Manny BañuelosNYY8.10.00.10.1
39Miguel CastroNYY29.00.00.10.1
40Rob BrantlyNYY30.00.0
41Jacob BarnesNYY1.20.00.00.0
42Luke BardNYY1.00.00.00.0
43Ryan WeberNYY10.20.00.00.0
44Tim LocastroNYY460.00.0
45David McKayNYY2.00.00.00.0
46Greg WeissertNYY11.10.00.00.0
47Miguel AndújarNYY100-0.1-0.1
48Harrison BaderNYY49-0.1-0.1
49Shane GreeneNYY1.00.0-0.1-0.1
50Anthony BandaNYY0.20.0-0.1-0.1
51Ronald GuzmánNYY6-0.1-0.1
52Zack BrittonNYY0.20.0-0.2-0.2
53Aroldis ChapmanNYY36.10.0-0.2-0.2
54Estevan FlorialNYY35-0.4-0.4
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What a great case against expansion! The theoretical replacement player must really suck.
 
Please God give Nasty Nestor the Game 1 start. Cole can go cry if he has a problem with it.
 
PoppyHart said:
The fact that players like Hicks and Gallo are considered a net benefit to a team.
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WAR is a funny statistic in some ways

The "R" is meant to be the person who would bring up from the minors. It is very difficult to achieve a negative WAR. For example, if you look at the A's (over 100 losses), their lineup still had 2.4 WAR as a team

It's saying even a crappy team like the A's are still better than the AAA team

It doesn't feel right, but that's the way it is calculated

EDIT - I like OPS+ as a comparison, since it is against your peers in the majors
 
Fat tire 13 said:
WAR is a funny statistic in some ways

The "R" is meant to be the person who would bring up from the minors. It is very difficult to achieve a negative WAR. For example, if you look at the A's (over 100 losses), their lineup still had 2.4 WAR as a team

It's saying even a crappy team like the A's are still better than the AAA team

It doesn't feel right, but that's the way it is calculated

EDIT - I like OPS+ as a comparison, since it is against your peers in the majors
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If anyone is interested in getting into the weeds, here is a good explanation for why replacement level is used instead of league average:

Replacement Level​

Just a tiny excerpt:

Does it really matter if you compare Andrew McCutchen and Mike Trout to the average player or a replacement one? If you only care about which one is better, not really. You’ll be able to work with their stat lines. But if you want a better handle on most of the league, a baseline that incorporates performance and playing time is vital. You can’t do that with average as your baseline. And it’s also important because we’re talking about the true bottom of the MLB talent pool.

It’s a fairly easily concept to see in practice. You can identify replacement type players without much effort. It gets trickier when you’re trying to actually parse out the specific calculation. So we can leave it at that. If your entire team gets hurt, you don’t get to use an army of average players or an army of players who would literally hit .000. Replacement level is the bookend and having a baseline at the bottom is much better for determining a player’s importance than having one in the middle. And while this discussion has been mostly theoretically, there is evidence that it lines up well with reality
 
Fat tire 13 said:
WAR is a funny statistic in some ways

The "R" is meant to be the person who would bring up from the minors. It is very difficult to achieve a negative WAR. For example, if you look at the A's (over 100 losses), their lineup still had 2.4 WAR as a team

It's saying even a crappy team like the A's are still better than the AAA team

It doesn't feel right, but that's the way it is calculated

EDIT - I like OPS+ as a comparison, since it is against your peers in the majors
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What is it good for? Absolutely nothin'.
 
SUFaninNJ said:
It’s not a 3 game series, is it?!
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Could be if someone wins the first 3. But the ad shows three games at Yankee Stadium with Game 5, the 3rd “home” game marked as ** if necessary

The Yankees aren’t trying to sell you tickets to the games in Cleveland. (Can we still call it Cleveland?).
 
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