2024-25 Recruiting

[wgdsr]

Comparing last year's rankings to this year's rankings, while there is some shifting amongst the five-stars, Johnny Gardiner and Aiden McDonald are the only players to drop from 5-star to 4-star, and Jimmy Kenny is the only player to jump up to a 5-star.

This small amount of change seems a little unlikely given
a) the probable inaccuracies in last year's recruit rankings
b) the changing abilities of the players concerned
It makes the people doing these rankings seem a bit "stiff", that is, unwilling to make changes.

thanks on hausmann and an interim. he was injured throughout most of junior year, back issues. which isn't great for a youngster. don't know how much he played that summer and report that it wasn't fully healed when he came back late spring and early summer.

it does seem to me there was a good deal of movement over the 2 years. for that one datapoint, sure. but that's an imaginary dividing line. really no difference in delta between the last 2 5 stars and the 1st 4 star.

senior year+, they're not playing meaningful games in the summer if at all, where these evaluations are being made prior. they can see 12-16 games in a day, or at showcases with lots of the guys on the field in years prior. senior year there's only h.s. games. which i doubt they're watching 100 of. so it'd make sense less movement.

over the 2 years, you have a guy going from 35 to 7, unrated to in the mix, and 26 down to 99. and a lot of other movement.

and hoo cares anyway? it's a number and matters little. guys will get on the field with older, more experienced players and impact or not.

 

[ColdAnger]

thanks on hausmann and an interim. he was injured throughout most of junior year, back issues. which isn't great for a youngster. don't know how much he played that summer and report that it wasn't fully healed when he came back late spring and early summer.

it does seem to me there was a good deal of movement over the 2 years. for that one datapoint, sure. but that's an imaginary dividing line. really no difference in delta between the last 2 5 stars and the 1st 4 star.

senior year+, they're not playing meaningful games in the summer if at all, where these evaluations are being made prior. they can see 12-16 games in a day, or at showcases with lots of the guys on the field in years prior. senior year there's only h.s. games. which i doubt they're watching 100 of. so it'd make sense less movement.

over the 2 years, you have a guy going from 35 to 7, unrated to in the mix, and 26 down to 99. and a lot of other movement.

and hoo cares anyway? it's a number and matters little. guys will get on the field with older, more experienced players and impact or not.

Agree with this sentiment. The rankings are click bait. Very effective, just look at all of us responding.

I think there is some merit in the evaluations but so many factors go into a player’s success including his athletic maturity, his comfort level in a system, the fit within a locker room, the relationship with coaching staffs, the role he is asked to play, the off-field distractions, his health, and maybe most importantly, his commitment to the process.

How do you objectively evaluate the future success of Player A: hotbed, historic high school program, sat and developed behind D1 guys, played middie as junior and attack as senior in a system he played within since 2nd grade using the same system on his club team versus Played B: non-hotbed, star of his HS program, didn’t play in a sophisticated system but was asked to be the primary goal scorer, initiator, wing, man down shortie and one man clear in any important moment and he convinced his buddies to play so they could even have a club team.

One guy may be closer to his ceiling and you are confident in what you are getting, one may or may not thrive when surrounded by talented players and a system.

 

[Zack80]

kershis top 10, van bastelar top 15, mccleary top 20, marshall top 30, bolognino top 50, cook top 60

My memory is the Kershis played really well in the NB AA game, and was named MVP. It seemed a little strange to me that he dropped from #16 to #22 in IL's rankings.

I haven't seen much of McCleary. UMd's top recruits were in the WCAC not the IAC, so I tended to watch the WCAC more. Looking at the IAC, you have Landon's Anthony Panetti, who won the Kelly award in Maryland for the top player, was POY in the Washington Post, and was one of the 4 USA AAs from the DC area (with McCleary, Draley, and Fowler). Yet Panetti could even break into IL's top 100 ?

Cook is a nice player. Sometimes the D1 stars from the MIAA come from the also-ran team. With 4 - 5 star offensive recruits and #40 Miller, the McDonogh players can complement each other, Cook really didn't have that luxury.

 

[Zack80]

thanks on hausmann and an interim. he was injured throughout most of junior year, back issues. which isn't great for a youngster. don't know how much he played that summer and report that it wasn't fully healed when he came back late spring and early summer.

it does seem to me there was a good deal of movement over the 2 years. for that one datapoint, sure. but that's an imaginary dividing line. really no difference in delta between the last 2 5 stars and the 1st 4 star.

senior year+, they're not playing meaningful games in the summer if at all, where these evaluations are being made prior. they can see 12-16 games in a day, or at showcases with lots of the guys on the field in years prior. senior year there's only h.s. games. which i doubt they're watching 100 of. so it'd make sense less movement.

over the 2 years, you have a guy going from 35 to 7, unrated to in the mix, and 26 down to 99. and a lot of other movement.

and hoo cares anyway? it's a number and matters little. guys will get on the field with older, more experienced players and impact or not.

Over the last 2 years, one is going from Xanders to the new guys.

 

[Powellfan]

Anyone with any intel? Last time one of these cryptic tweets went out, the announcement happened pretty quickly after.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Anyone with any intel? Last time one of these cryptic tweets went out, the announcement happened pretty quickly after.

I got nothing, lol. Think it's unlikely it impact SU but man talk about a late flip.

 

[Powellfan]

 

[JeremyCuse]

UVA stays flipping IVY dudes late. Gonna be no love lost at Penn and Brown for the Cavs.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Class of 2025 Top 100
17. Bogue Hahn, M, McDonogh (Md.), Team 91 Maryland | Syracuse
26. Jojo Filardi, D, Half Hollow Hills (N.Y.), Team 91 LI Shock | Syracuse
62. Jayden Kittelberger, SSDM, Salisbury (Conn.), SweetLax Upstate | Syracuse
63. Jake Meyer, A, Wesleyan (Ga.), 3d Georgia | Syracuse
88. Ted Rawson, M, Lawrenceville (N.J.), Edge | Syracuse

 

[Zack80]

I was mentioning somewhere on this forum that Rowyn Nurry was looking pretty good for Salesianum. He appears to have made the jump up to #18 being a 5-star - a Cornell recruit.

The same class ranked as rising juniors (last year):

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/inside-lacrosse-class-of-2025-top-50-junior-rankings/62034

 

[Powellfan]

Class of 2025 Top 100
17. Bogue Hahn, M, McDonogh (Md.), Team 91 Maryland | Syracuse
26. Jojo Filardi, D, Half Hollow Hills (N.Y.), Team 91 LI Shock | Syracuse
62. Jayden Kittelberger, SSDM, Salisbury (Conn.), SweetLax Upstate | Syracuse
63. Jake Meyer, A, Wesleyan (Ga.), 3d Georgia | Syracuse
88. Ted Rawson, M, Lawrenceville (N.J.), Edge | Syracuse

So Hahn "falls" from 14 to 17, and Filardi "rises" from 28 to 26.

SU will have some big shoes to fill at SSDM next year, and Kittelberger seems poised to fill them.

Meyer looked poised to be a top 100 player, not surprising to see him listed. I can't help but think he should be ranked higher.

Rawson flips pays off in a big way.

SU has five top 100 players in three straight recruiting classes with the '24, '25 and '26 groups, for a total of 15. Notre Dame has 12 in the '26 class alone. Going to need to find different ways of competing in the future.

 

[Zack80]

So Hahn "falls" from 14 to 17, and Filardi "rises" from 28 to 26.

SU will have some big shoes to fill at SSDM next year, and Kittelberger seems poised to fill them.

Meyer looked poised to be a top 100 player, not surprising to see him listed. I can't help but think he should be ranked higher.

Rawson flips pays off in a big way.

SU has five top 100 players in three straight recruiting classes with the '24, '25 and '26 groups, for a total of 15. Notre Dame has 12 in the '26 class alone. Going to need to find different ways of competing in the future.

The Hahn drop seems minor. I guess he moves up to a more major role in McDonogh's offense with Firlie graduating. Of course, that also means getting the LSM.

ACC 2025
Duke 5 - 5 star,, 8 top 100
UNC 4 - 5 star, 8 top 100
ND 4 - 5 star, 12 top 100
UVA 2 - 5 star, 9 top 100 #1 B. Millon
Syracuse 1 - 5 star, 5 top 100

Maryland 2 - 5 stars, 7 top 100
Hopkins 1 - 5 star, 3 top 100

 

[DoctahLexus]

Good to see some more love for Kittleberger and Meyer. Waaaay to low a ranking for Rawson. I looked at a couple Lawrenceville YouTube games shortly after we landed Peck in the 2026 class, but Rawson was often the real standout player. He certainly has the best dodging ability of any recruit for us in this class, and is not a slouch with other areas of his game. Was often the main party starter for a Lawrenceville offense that has a ton of weapons. I think he is a borderline 5 star talent who could easily play as a freshman.

 

[GrowTheGame]

Meyer and Rawson being that low are egregious

 

[Zack80]

I was expecting Matt Higgins (A, Boys' Latin) to jump up into the top 10, if not the top 5, after a break-out year in the MIAA this past Spring.

Higgins was 1st team All-state and named one of the five USA High School All-Americans from the MIAA.

 

[ColdAnger]

Meyer and Rawson being that low are egregious

According to the local lax grapevine, Meyer is 6’3” 200 lbs and runs the 40 in the 4.6s and is skilled enough to be considering playing box in Ontario this summer or next with some ‘Cuse teammates.

That package in B’more or on the Island would not be #63 … but who cares? He’ll get the chance to prove it in the dome next year!

 

[GrowTheGame]

According to the local lax grapevine, Meyer is 6’3” 200 lbs and runs the 40 in the 4.6s and is skilled enough to be considering playing box in Ontario this summer or next with some ‘Cuse teammates.

That package in B’more or on the Island would not be #63 … but who cares? He’ll get the chance to prove it in the dome next year!

Oh totally don’t mind him being underrated and under the radar, I’m so bullish on him - he’s not even in a college weight room yet either

 

[UrbanaOrange]

Meyer and Rawson being that low are egregious

This class is grossly underrated.

 

[Powellfan]

Syracuse comes in at #6.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

Syracuse comes in at #6.

ACC having 5 of the top 6 classes is diabolical.

 

[Zack80]

Well, at least you all missed out on the commentary. As a Terp fan, I have to read how UMd has the foundation of an electric midfield, yet Inside Lacrosse hasn't ranked any of the midfield recruits in the top 30.

 

[ClvrUsrnm]

Well, at least you all missed out on the commentary. As a Terp fan, I have to read how UMd has the foundation of an electric midfield, yet Inside Lacrosse hasn't ranked any of the midfield recruits in the top 30.

Why do you pay any attention to Inside Lacrosse?

 

[Zack80]

Why do you pay any attention to Inside Lacrosse?

I'm a lacrosse fan and like to analyze things.

Like why did Duke recruit Brady Scioletti jump from #23 to #7.

Scioletti is certainly a big lefty attackman at 6'3", 200, but he doesn't look particularly fast. #7? Looks more like #23 to me.

 

[ClvrUsrnm]

I'm a lacrosse fan and like to analyze things.

Like why did Duke recruit Brady Scioletti jump from #23 to #7.

Scioletti is certainly a big lefty attackman at 6'3", 200, but he doesn't look particularly fast. #7? Looks more like #23 to me.

You make my point for me. Inside Lacrosse, while perhaps well-intentioned, just doesn’t do an adequate job covering the college game.