2024 New York Mets Thread

[donniesyracuse]

And what the heck is a matter with Lindor? .190 in late May? He seemed to have 'broken out of it" a couple of times but he broke back into it. He's 1 for 25 in his last six games. He batted .285 for Cleveland, (including over .300 his first two years), .247 for the Mets. He's 30 years old and should be in his prime.

I guess it looks worse if you still focus on batting average. His wRC+ in both 2022 and 2023 was better than all but two of his Cleveland seasons.

 

[SWC75]

Admit it...you thought they were going to blow this one, too. But they didn't - and have 27 hits and 16 runs in two games. Now we need consistency.

 

[SWC75]

I guess it looks worse if you still focus on batting average. His wRC+ in both 2022 and 2023 was better than all but two of his Cleveland seasons.

I figure if his batting average goes up, so will everything else.

 

[SWC75]

This Week in Mets: What's up with Edwin Díaz?

His fastball velocity is down, but the real culprit for Díaz is that he keeps leaving his vaunted slider in the middle of the plate.

www.nytimes.com

I think his key problem is: "He’s leaving his slider in the middle of the plate more often." He's just giving up too many 9th inning, (where else?), home runs, just as he did in the bad old days.

 

[sutomcat]

This Week in Mets: What's up with Edwin Díaz?

His fastball velocity is down, but the real culprit for Díaz is that he keeps leaving his vaunted slider in the middle of the plate.

www.nytimes.com

I think his key problem is: "He’s leaving his slider in the middle of the plate more often." He's just giving up too many 9th inning, (where else?), home runs, just as he did in the bad old days.

Agree. It looks to me as though he still has good stuff. But good stuff is not enough. You need good location as well. And he has lost that really good location he finally mastered in 2022.

Hopefully he finds his way back to it soon.

 

[SWC75]

The Mets alternate losing games where the pitching was not the problem and games where the hitting was not the problem.

 

[SWC75]

Mets need more from their core if they expect to make a playoff run

The Mets' surrounding cast provides solid production, but the stars are off to an underwhelming start.

www.nytimes.com

Ya think...

 

[sutomcat]

Sounds like Baty is about to get sent down and Vientos is going to be the full time 3B. Very disappointed in him. He looks overmatched and lost again. José Iglesias is killing it in Syracuse and would be a good person to try as the extra infielder.

Vientos was the best hitter on the team in spring training. Seems to always hit no matter where he is. I can't argue this move.

Hoping Houser is removed from the rotation permanently. He has shown no ability to pitch and every start he makes is almost a guaranteed loss. Why they decided to give him yet another chance is beyond me.

Call up Butto and let him start the rest of the season. The guy has stuff and grit too.

With Brooks out for the season let's give Peterson a chance to be a long guy in the bullpen. If he does well, maybe make him a 7th or 8th inning guy. Gotta find some pitchers who will be reliable late in games. Maybe Houser can contribute something here.

Mendoza has to get more aggressive pulling a starter starting to struggle. He has blown a bunch of games leaving in his starters too long. I know our bullpen isn't always great but a fresh mediocre pitcher is better than a tired one.

Senga continues to hit setbacks. Looks like we will be lucky to have him on the roster before the all star break.

 

[SWC75]

A comparison of the 2022 Mets and the 2024 Mets to date looking at players who were on both teams and OPS for hitters and ERA for pitchers. (as of 5/23/24)

C- Thomas Nido (age 28-30) 2022: .600 2024: .630 result: +30
1b- Pete Alonso (age 27-29) 2022: .869 2024: .779 result: -90
2b – Jeff McNeil (age 30-32) 2022: .836 2024: .657 result: -179
SS – Francisco Lindor (age 28-30) 2022: .788 2024: .634 result: -154
CF – Brandon Nimmo (age 29-31) 2022: .800 2024: .766 result: -34
RF - Starling Marte (age 33-35) 2022: .814 2024: .693 result: -121
(Mark Vientos, Bret Baty and Francisco Alvarez played a total of 32 games at the end of the season. The sample was so small I didn’t include them)

SP – Tylor Megill (age 26-28) 2022: 5.13 2024: 3.00 result: -2.13
SP - Jose Butto (age 24-26) 2022: 15.75 2024: 3.08 result: -12.67
(Poor guy pitched 4 innings in 2022 and gave up 9 hits and 7 runs)
RP – Edwin Diaz (age 28-30) 2022: 1.31 2024: 5.50 result: +4.19
RP – Adam Ottavino (age 36-38) 2022: 2.06 2024: 3.79 result: +1.73
RP - Drew Smith (age 28-30) 2022: 3.33 2024: 2.70 result: -0.63 (but on the IL)
RP - Sean Reid-Foley (age 26-28) 2022: 5.40 2024: 1.42 result: -3.98

With the exception of Marte and Ottavino, these players should all be in their primes. If Alonso, McNeil, Lindor and Diaz were performing as they did then, we'd be in pretty good shape. But they aren't.

 

[SWC75]

Blown saves are BS

 

[sutomcat]

Blown saves are BS

Another in a long line of soul crushing losses. Football season can’t get here fast enough.

 

[GreekFreak]

Two years ago Diaz killed it. This year he’s killling the Mets. I would send him down to find himself.

 

[SWC75]

A comparison of the 2022 Mets and the 2024 Mets to date looking at players who were on both teams and OPS for hitters and ERA for pitchers. (as of 5/23/24)

C- Thomas Nido (age 28-30) 2022: .600 2024: .630 result: +30
1b- Pete Alonso (age 27-29) 2022: .869 2024: .779 result: -90
2b – Jeff McNeil (age 30-32) 2022: .836 2024: .657 result: -179
SS – Francisco Lindor (age 28-30) 2022: .788 2024: .634 result: -154
CF – Brandon Nimmo (age 29-31) 2022: .800 2024: .766 result: -34
RF - Starling Marte (age 33-35) 2022: .814 2024: .693 result: -121
(Mark Vientos, Bret Baty and Francisco Alvarez played a total of 32 games at the end of the season. The sample was so small I didn’t include them)

SP – Tylor Megill (age 26-28) 2022: 5.13 2024: 3.00 result: -2.13
SP - Jose Butto (age 24-26) 2022: 15.75 2024: 3.08 result: -12.67
(Poor guy pitched 4 innings in 2022 and gave up 9 hits and 7 runs)
RP – Edwin Diaz (age 28-30) 2022: 1.31 2024: 5.50 result: +4.19
RP – Adam Ottavino (age 36-38) 2022: 2.06 2024: 3.79 result: +1.73
RP - Drew Smith (age 28-30) 2022: 3.33 2024: 2.70 result: -0.63 (but on the IL)
RP - Sean Reid-Foley (age 26-28) 2022: 5.40 2024: 1.42 result: -3.98

With the exception of Marte and Ottavino, these players should all be in their primes. If Alonso, McNeil, Lindor and Diaz were performing as they did then, we'd be in pretty good shape. But they aren't.

Mets need more from their core if they expect to make a playoff run

The Mets' surrounding cast provides solid production, but the stars are off to an underwhelming start.

www.nytimes.com

 

[SWC75]

Mets' Pete Alonso downplays trade deadline, but questions mount

Alonso said the struggling Mets can turn things around in a hurry: "It’s just a matter of proving it between the lines."

www.nytimes.com

Hint: “I mean, we always have a chance. Also, having Steve (Cohen, the Mets owner) willing to spend money, and let’s say we get different free agents or so … we always have a chance. It’s just a matter of proving it between the lines.”

Mets continue to lose in ways that make trade deadline decisions easier

The "mind-boggling" Mets squandered a strong outing from Luis Severino and reached a new low with another painful defeat.

www.nytimes.com

“My job is to continue to find lanes for him,” Mendoza said. “He’s gotta fight through it. We can’t hide him. He’s gotta pitch. He’s too good of a pitcher, and I’m pretty confident he’ll turn it around. In the meantime, we gotta continue to work with him and put him in situations where we feel good about it. Today was one of them. He just didn’t get the job done.”

This Week in Mets: What info have the Mets gathered on their future?

Christian Scott looks like a bona fide big-league rotation piece, but the Mets' other big questions remain unresolved.

www.nytimes.com

“We’re in information-gathering mode,” he said.

 

[SWC75]

Five Mets takeaways: Luisangel Acuña heats up, Kodai Senga's cryptic comments and more

Kodai Senga’s comments regarding his lengthy rehab and latest setback revealed some frustration.

www.nytimes.com

“I think the point is that in order to get back to 100 percent, you have to hit each benchmark,” Senga said. “You have to be at 100 percent at each benchmark to get to the ultimate 100 percent.”

 

[SWC75]

So I tune in to the first game of the Mets double header and it's 2-0, Mets in the 7th. Silly me. It winds up 2-5, Dodgers in 10 innings. I'll check on game two before I go to bed. I'm tired of watching the same game over and over again.

 

[sutomcat]

So I tune in to the first game of the Mets double header and it's 2-0, Mets in the 7th. Silly me. It winds up 2-5, Dodgers in 10 innings. I'll check on game two before I go to bed. I'm tired of watching the same game over and over again.

Garrett Reed. Adam Ottovino. Jorge Lopez. Edwin Diaz. Jake Diekman.

No one can pitch even an inning of scoreless relief. Believe this was the 10th game just in May the bullpen has blown a lead.

Call up Nunez. He actually was just called up for the doubleheader. I would keep him and release Diekman. Keep Houser in the bullpen. Peterson is about to be activated. That gives the Mets seven starters. Make one of the starters a late inning reliever. I would try David in this role. Call up Butto and make him a reliever as well. Free up a spot for him by releasing Reid-Foley.

Start cleaning house and getting rid of a lot of the awful acquisitions the Mets made when they ‘rebuilt’ their bullpen.

 

[bevosu]

They currently have the 4th worst W-L record in MLB.

Ay, caramba.

 

[GreekFreak]

Fairly often when teams lose in extra innings it’s by a single run. The Mets often lose by 2-3 runs because their bullpen can’t hold anyone. And of course their offense is offensive.

 

[SWC75]

Steve Cohen's Citi Field casino bid suffers major blow, project's future uncertain

Cohen's plan to build a casino next to Citi Field needs State Sen. Jessica Ramos to put forward legislation. Tuesday, she refused to do so.

www.nytimes.com

Can Pete Rose play?

 

[SWC75]

Mets' issues raise concerns for present and future: David Stearns weighs in

Third base is where the Mets are caught in the middle of wanting to compete in 2024 but also wanting to develop players for the future.

www.nytimes.com

"Is the core good enough? When will ace Kodai Senga make his season debut? When will the top position-player prospect return from an injury? What’s up with the defense? What’s up with third base? What’s up with the struggles of one of the best closers in baseball? What will you do at the trade deadline? What can you do at the trade deadline?"

 

[jncuse]

 

[bevosu]

They currently have the 4th worst W-L record in MLB.

Ay, caramba.

Correction 5th worst.

 

[GreekFreak]

Well I didn’t have high hopes for the Mets this year but I have to admit that I didn’t expect the season to be all but over in May. They are toast and imploding.

 

[sutomcat]

This is how you get released in world record time. I assume he was mad because the crowd booed him.

It is a shame because he was having a good year until recently, when he too started getting bombed every time he went out.

If nothing else, it is always interesting to be a Mets fan.