A compliment for Roy Williams

[IthacaMatt]

It was occurring to me the other day, there is something that Roy Williams doesn't get enough credit for. As head coach at both Kansas and UNC, he really can teach his big men how to play effective low post offense. He has always had big men - who were not necessarily NBA star quality players - who can roll to the rim and convert, and know how to score on the offensive boards, and on the low blocks. Year after year, doesn't matter who it is. He always has a couple guys who can score 10 ppg up front.

One other thing he does exceptionally well is teach the fast break, with plenty of evidence at both schools. His teams are the only team in America that runs as well as us (if not better ...) every single year.

We bust his balls a lot on this board, and I get the sense that maybe he doesn't get as much respect as maybe he deserves. Yes, he recruits elite talent, but he does those 2 things, really, really well. At an elite, all-time great level, in fact.

 

[SaltLakeOrange]

It was occurring to me the other day, there is something that Roy Williams doesn't get enough credit for. As head coach at both Kansas and UNC, he really can teach his big men how to play effective low post offense. He has always had big men - who were not necessarily NBA star quality players - who can roll to the rim and convert, and know how to score on the offensive boards, and on the low blocks. Year after year, doesn't matter who it is. He always has a couple guys who can score 10 ppg up front.

One other thing he does exceptionally well is teach the fast break, with plenty of evidence at both schools. His teams are the only team in America that runs as well as us (if not better ...) every single year.

We bust his balls a lot on this board, and I get the sense that maybe he doesn't get as much respect as maybe he deserves. Yes, he recruits elite talent, but he does those 2 things, really, really well. At an elite, all-time great level, in fact.

So what?

 

[PoppyHart]

He's excellent.

 

[NKR1978]

He's a great coach. There is no legitimate argument that he isn't a great coach.

 

[PoppyHart]

I dedicate the duke loss to you buddy.

Cool beans.

 

[Oakland]

It was occurring to me the other day, there is something that Roy Williams doesn't get enough credit for. As head coach at both Kansas and UNC, he really can teach his big men how to play effective low post offense. He has always had big men - who were not necessarily NBA star quality players - who can roll to the rim and convert, and know how to score on the offensive boards, and on the low blocks. Year after year, doesn't matter who it is. He always has a couple guys who can score 10 ppg up front.

One other thing he does exceptionally well is teach the fast break, with plenty of evidence at both schools. His teams are the only team in America that runs as well as us (if not better ...) every single year.

We bust his balls a lot on this board, and I get the sense that maybe he doesn't get as much respect as maybe he deserves. Yes, he recruits elite talent, but he does those 2 things, really, really well. At an elite, all-time great level, in fact.

Can you name one year that he didn't have 2 NBA big men on his team?

 

[Oakland]

He's a great coach. There is no legitimate argument that he isn't a great coach.

He has only coached about 7 games in his career when his team didn't have more talent. I haven't checked the record books but I would quess he lost 5 of those.

 

[Knicks411]

Can you name one year that he didn't have 2 NBA big men on his team?

I don't think he had a lot of NBA big men early in the Kansas run, right?

The team we beat in 03 had just Collison, I think.

 

[Gabjon]

It was occurring to me the other day, there is something that Roy Williams doesn't get enough credit for. As head coach at both Kansas and UNC, he really can teach his big men how to play effective low post offense. He has always had big men - who were not necessarily NBA star quality players - who can roll to the rim and convert, and know how to score on the offensive boards, and on the low blocks. Year after year, doesn't matter who it is. He always has a couple guys who can score 10 ppg up front.

One other thing he does exceptionally well is teach the fast break, with plenty of evidence at both schools. His teams are the only team in America that runs as well as us (if not better ...) every single year.

We bust his balls a lot on this board, and I get the sense that maybe he doesn't get as much respect as maybe he deserves. Yes, he recruits elite talent, but he does those 2 things, really, really well. At an elite, all-time great level, in fact.

He is the worst in game coach in the country! In 2010 his team went 20-17 with about 6 micky Ds on the roster!

 

[MiniCuse]

He is the worst in game coach in the country! In 2010 his team went 20-17 with about 6 micky Ds on the roster!

And the only reason they got to 20 wins was a decent NIT run.

 

[Gabjon]

And the only reason they got to 20 wins was a decent NIT run.

JB is 3-1 against him including 4/7/2003

 

[IthacaMatt]

He is the worst in game coach in the country! In 2010 his team went 20-17 with about 6 micky Ds on the roster!

His centers and PFs can always score, every year. Ours seldom do. Part of it is the respective systems, but Roy teaches big men how to play offense really well, usually better than their talent level. That was my point. And he teaches a hell of a fast break.

Sure, he gets great talent. Sure, JB has beaten him 3 out of 4. He may not be a great game coach, but he's an outstanding practice coach.

 

[Gabjon]

His centers and PFs can always score, every year. Ours seldom do. Part of it is the respective systems, but Roy teaches big men how to play offense really well, usually better than their talent level. That was my point. And he teaches a hell of a fast break.

Sure, he gets great talent. Sure, JB has beaten him 3 out of 4. He may not be a great game coach, but he's an outstanding practice coach.

lol! Practice! We talking about practice..practice...not a game! we are talking about practice

 

[Knicks411]

2 of those McDonalds AA were the Wear twins, who it turns out suck.

Strickland and Larry Drew were also AA; man, they kinda missed on a few of those, didn't t hey?

 

[HoustonCuse]

Remember that both Duke and UNC get "Duke and UNC McD AAs". As soon as you commit to those schools, you go on the very short list for the McD roster.

 

[jncuse]

His team is prone to massive defensive breakdowns... take the FSU and UNLV game. Punch them in the month early and Roy is not able to keep the team exposure.

 

[br801]

It was occurring to me the other day, there is something that Roy Williams doesn't get enough credit for. As head coach at both Kansas and UNC, he really can teach his big men how to play effective low post offense. He has always had big men - who were not necessarily NBA star quality players - who can roll to the rim and convert, and know how to score on the offensive boards, and on the low blocks. Year after year, doesn't matter who it is. He always has a couple guys who can score 10 ppg up front.

One other thing he does exceptionally well is teach the fast break, with plenty of evidence at both schools. His teams are the only team in America that runs as well as us (if not better ...) every single year.

We bust his balls a lot on this board, and I get the sense that maybe he doesn't get as much respect as maybe he deserves. Yes, he recruits elite talent, but he does those 2 things, really, really well. At an elite, all-time great level, in fact.

I'm not so sure about him as a coach, but the man sure can cry like nobody's business. Nothing like weepy Roy after a season-ending loss.

 

[jncuse]

I'm not so sure about him as a coach, but the man sure can cry like nobody's business. Nothing like weepy Roy after a season-ending loss.

A few other things that Roy knows well after losing:

1) Abandoning Walk Ons
2) Insulting the intelligence of women

 

[longtimefan]

It was occurring to me the other day, there is something that Roy Williams doesn't get enough credit for. As head coach at both Kansas and UNC, he really can teach his big men how to play effective low post offense. He has always had big men - who were not necessarily NBA star quality players - who can roll to the rim and convert, and know how to score on the offensive boards, and on the low blocks. Year after year, doesn't matter who it is. He always has a couple guys who can score 10 ppg up front.

One other thing he does exceptionally well is teach the fast break, with plenty of evidence at both schools. His teams are the only team in America that runs as well as us (if not better ...) every single year.

We bust his balls a lot on this board, and I get the sense that maybe he doesn't get as much respect as maybe he deserves. Yes, he recruits elite talent, but he does those 2 things, really, really well. At an elite, all-time great level, in fact.

Williams has a terrific winning pct.--approaching .800. Problem is, over the course of his career, he has had the more talented team on the court about 90% of the time.

 

[jncuse]

Williams has a terrific winning pct.--approaching .800. Problem is, over the course of his career, he has had the more talented team on the court about 90% of the time.

I would say its closer to 95%.

 

[DSellers12]

The Roy Williams bashing makes little sense to me. You say he gets all these great McD's AA but you have to recruit them they don't just come to you. I know he has the UNC name going for him but he recruited well at Kansas as well. His winning percentage speaks for itself. Also if my memory serves me right he does have more national championships than Jimmy B. I not posting this to stir up anything I am just saying we question Boeheims faults all the time but still think he is a great coach so don't sit here and tell me Williams is a terrible coach because anyone with a half of a brain knows that isn't true.

 

[jncuse]

Great recruiter makes a great college coach. It doesn't necessarily make him good on game day.

 

[PoppyHart]

Phil Jackson must not have been a great coach either I suppose.

Nor John Wooden. After all, he had Alcindor and Walton (among others). They should have just handed them the crown in November.

 

[DSellers12]

Well than a career winning percentage of .800 against elite competition with greater than 600 wins already as well as 2 national championships and 7 final four appearances must prove he can coach on gameday. Getting all that talent can pose a lot of internal problems as far as getting these premier high school bball players to buy into the system and lose the me me attitudes. Because you have a lot of talent doesn't necessarily mean you get handed the national championship. Just look at Ben Howland great recruiter but apparently can't get the players to play together.

 

[KingOtis]

The Roy Williams bashing makes little sense to me. You say he gets all these great McD's AA but you have to recruit them they don't just come to you. I know he has the UNC name going for him but he recruited well at Kansas as well.

Those are two of the most storied programs in the history of Western Civilization. The top players do just come to you.