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It's a coach lightening the mood. If it was a big deal or was keeping the team from paying attention to the game, do you think Dino would allow it?

We get you don't care for it. Wonderful. I think it's kind of cool personally.

It's better than some of the things that make the media for teams starting new traditions.
Bold: And you’re allowed to. We don’t agree, but we also don’t have to agree.
Underlined: Did/do you agree with everything that the last 2 presidents have said/done? Do you agree w/ every decision that Dino makes? You’re allowed to disagree with the guy in charge.
 
I said he *looks* like a clown.

This is where grammar matters. Our entire team looks like a clown brigade when we wear silly uniforms. That doesn’t make everyone on the team a clown, does it?

And to be very clear. I’m anti-kilt. I’m the guy arguing *against* basing the low guy on the totem pole.

But hey, it’s 2018. Who needs to read when you can just make things up while you’re on a witch hunt, right?

I’ll make this quick since I’m in the middle of watching a game.

Your posts in this thread make you look like a moron.

Did I call you a moron or infer you are one?
 
How about a new tradition of winning seasons and bowl games?

They do that and the coaches can wear kilts, speedos, thongs...whatever gets it done.
On field performance is not a tradition. I want that too, but it isn't what I was getting at with the OP. If On field was a tradition, we would not have suffered the last 15 years.
 
Bold: And you’re allowed to. We don’t agree, but we also don’t have to agree.
Underlined: Did/do you agree with everything that the last 2 presidents have said/done? Do you agree w/ every decision that Dino makes? You’re allowed to disagree with the guy in charge.

I understand you don't like it but all you had to say is that you don't like it. When others say they like it you don't have to to explain your position. It seemed as though you wanted others to share your position.

You have every right to have your own ideas. We just don't mesh on this. One that we should is Great Fricken win!!! Bowl bound
 
If we keep winning I’ll buy a damn kilt lol.

Love it!

I understand you don't like it but all you had to say is that you don't like it. When others say they like it you don't have to to explain your position. It seemed as though you wanted others to share your position.

You have every right to have your own ideas. We just don't mesh on this. One that we should is Great Fricken win!!! Bowl bound
That's what he did, and you all attacked him, so he defended his position...Like any of us might do in a Uni thread... Silly to get worked up, IMO. Enough of that. We're bowling!!!!
 
Try taking a couple deep breaths before you post. If you have to cuss and insult the other person to make your point, then it isn’t a strong one.

The kilt wearing isn’t culturally aligned with the areas of this country that produce good football as evidenced by the fact that none of them wear kilts. It’s also a weirdly juvenile act, as evidence that kilt wearing isn’t widely accepted in society. Walk around and tally up the kilt vs pants ratio that you see. It makes us look weird in an industry where we sell our image to fans and recruits. Remember, we can’t ‘buy’ players like the pros can, and also unlike the pros, we have a highly concentrated marketplace (~130 teams vs ~30). Doing something that outlandish just to grab attention is immature. Compare the styles of older men to younger men, and more often than not, younger men’s clothes will be more attention-grabbing.

Based on the above, we should absolutely not expand this “tradition.” We should, however, work to gain awareness of our program through other, genuine, and positive means.

I get that this is clearly a topic that’s weirdly close to your heart, but you’re on the wrong side of society. Look around. It’s significantly easier to go with the market/world than to try to change it, esp. when the proposed change is unnecessary and doesn’t benefit us in any clear way.
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Love it!


That's what he did, and you all attacked him, so he defended his position...Like any of us might do in a Uni thread... Silly to get worked up, IMO. Enough of that. We're bowling!!!!

I'm one person. No attack here. Simply don't see why a kilt had any bearing on getting worked up
 
He thought kilts made you look like a clown. And then everyone attacked him with machismo bullying. Telling him to leave, calling him a punk, etc. If that's what you are talking about? Ok, then.

I'm surprised people can't have fun talking about a dude wearing a kilt. That's why he has to wear one. ;-). Of course, I guess that's bullying, too
. (No it's not. It's fun)
Fun was all I was onto in the OP. I thought it was fun, and maybe even a little crazy/tough to wear a kilt in a CNY winter. I like fun crazy. We got a win tonight. We are bowl eligible. The kilt did not cost us wins as was suggested by others. Now on the other hand, do I think that more people in kilts could draw the attention of the casual fan? Yes I do. Do I think more fans in the Dome could actually help with recruits, and yes even wins? Yes I do. So do I think kilts could get us more winds? Yes. Does it have to be a kilt? No, it can be anything that is unique and creates a fun SU-centric atmosphere. A tradition of winning is lazy. We all want that and yearn for it, but it's not a "tradition" in my opinion unless it can be handed down. That to me requires it to be more if not entirely tangible to work. winning is not tangible and if it is a tradition, why did we drop the tradition around 2003? Yell squads, Howard's Rock, touching the "Play like a champion" sign, running under and touching the "M club" sign, Dotting the "i", wearing a houndstooth fedora, rolling the grove, 3rd quarter "Jump Around" are just some such traditions that are not "just win bowl games". They are the things that create the atmosphere that sustains winning. The post game locker room speeches are also becoming a bit of a tradition. Are you embarrassed by them too (not you RandomGuy)? Does that cost us recruits? I too think the turnover chain is dumb, but I didn't go to Miami and I don't want to see them succeed. Ask Nunn if the chain delayed his flipping to the Canes, or if it helped him believe he was making the right choice.
 
That's what he did, and you all attacked him, so he defended his position...Like any of us might do in a Uni thread... Silly to get worked up, IMO. Enough of that. We're bowling!!!!
Better idea: let’s get the assistant to stop looking like a clown on TV, and we can all dress in a way that isn’t embarrassing. That can be our tradition.

He called it a bad idea (which I'm fine with) and suggested anyone representing SU in a way not befitting his ideals, like this kilt example, is embarrassing. I don't think that's quite the same as saying he doesn't like it. That's throwing an insult. I'm not worked up at all, but I want it to be seen for what it was, a fun idea (good, bad, or indifferent) followed by an insult to anyone who supported it. I saw the kilt last week and then the article. I thought it was different and fun, so I posted about it as someone who starves for more traditions in our gameday.
 
I don’t know what to say other than I’ll have what you’re drinking.

I get that it’s 2018, but good Lord. I’m not the one threatening anybody. To be clear, I’m the guy being threatened for saying wearing kilts is a dumb thing to do when you’re a SU FB coach. Ironically, I can virtually guarantee everyone arguing with me agrees with my stance deep down, seeing as its incredibly likely that 0 of them wear kilts on a regular basis.

Your post sums up most of what’s wrong with society. This thread is a race to be a victim. Now you’re blaming me, the guy literally (and hilariously) being threatened (which I’m actually OK with - I’m all for free speech), for causing suicides on account of me expressing widely accepted societal norms. Get over yourself.
Says the guys willing to judge people he doesn’t know for doing something different (dude wearing a skirt or kilt) than what he thinks the ideal is. Yes, I am definitely the problem with society. Let me go enjoy our win in my snowflake safe space.
 
I understand you don't like it but all you had to say is that you don't like it. When others say they like it you don't have to to explain your position. It seemed as though you wanted others to share your position.

You have every right to have your own ideas. We just don't mesh on this. One that we should is Great Fricken win!!! Bowl bound
To be clear, without exaggeration, I was accused of killing young boys (contributing to their suicides) because I pointed out that men wearing skirts won't translate well to much of this country, especially the areas that produce football talent. I was also hilariously threatened by multiple posters. Well, more accurately, they volunteered some guy who probably doesn't know this conversation ever happened, and probably wouldn't care if he did, to find me and attack me (you can't make this stuff up). I was also called a multitude of colorful names - often by people who randomly put words on my mouth. Then I had a poster imply that I was gay (which is ironic, because I don't think that's an insult, but he clearly does). And lastly, one guy told repeatedly told me to leave, presumably because my opinion made him uncomfortable, and as far as I know, other than what looks like a drunken incoherent stammering, he has yet to articulate a counter stance.

I mostly explained myself when others asked or directly challenged my beliefs. I was more responding to the insanity which appears to be sweeping our fan base (or at least the vocal minority thereof). I guess I'm just not afraid of 14 year old cyber bully tactics - especially when they're being used by college kids and supposedly grown men.

It was a great win, and this is water under a bridge. Have fun tonight, and may tomorrow's hangover never come :)
 
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Says the guys willing to judge people he doesn’t know for doing something different (dude wearing a skirt or kilt) than what he thinks the ideal is. Yes, I am definitely the problem with society. Let me go enjoy our win in my snowflake safe space.
Again, this post is filled with drama.

And to be clear, my issue isn't with him wearing a kilt or skirt. It's with him doing it while on TV, while associated with the team. In my opinion, it doesn't send a message conducive to attracting the talent that we need to win. But yes, twist that to you being the victim. Enjoy your safe space.
 
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He called it a bad idea (which I'm fine with) and suggested anyone representing SU in a way not befitting his ideals, like this kilt example, is embarrassing. I don't think that's quite the same as saying he doesn't like it. That's throwing an insult. I'm not worked up at all, but I want it to be seen for what it was, a fun idea (good, bad, or indifferent) followed by an insult to anyone who supported it. I saw the kilt last week and then the article. I thought it was different and fun, so I posted about it as someone who starves for more traditions in our gameday.
This is just it. You're trying to be a victim, and you're trying to stamp out my opinion because it disagrees with yours, while claiming that I'm oppressing you because I dared be honest with how I felt.

The truth is that you can buy out the local neighborhood kilt store and hand them out in the parking lot if you so please, and I won't stop you. I also won't pretend to think that it's a good idea, or that you won't look goofy in them.

I'm sorry, but this forum doesn't scare me. I'm not going to cow down.
 
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