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ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

orangefog said:
I would love to hear Marjorie Taylor-Greene's thoughts on the matter.
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SouthernCuse said:
I concur HTown's post was excellent. crediting SMU with the DFW metro area is so far from a replication of reality one wonders about ESPN. DFW is now an 8 million person metropolis, and still growing rapidly. Important market, but SMU isn't even the number one local college team, its TCU and not that close right now.
Where does ESPN think all those Texas Tech grads go after graduation? There ain't no jobs in Lubbock. A big share of Texas grads, aTm grads, Oklahoma, hell even see a lot of Baylor flags on game day (no jobs in Waco either).
SMU does have potential, FW will stay with TCU, but Dallas loves a winner, and lord knows the Cowboys aren't getting it done.
Fun fact, SMU's new president was the Texas president who spearheaded to transition to the SEC. Mean anything? Who knows, we are on page 378 and haven't figured it out yet.
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Just curious as to why you say TCU is the main college there. I was just down there for a week for a business conference and everywhere I went I saw tons of SMU gear being sold, compared to just a handful of places selling TCU gear. Maybe SMU has a better marketing team and is pushing for the market, or the oil money is pushing sales I don't know, but from what I saw based on store displays, SMU is the clear leader in the DFW area.
 
FireballPhil said:
Just curious as to why you say TCU is the main college there. I was just down there for a week for a business conference and everywhere I went I saw tons of SMU gear being sold, compared to just a handful of places selling TCU gear. Maybe SMU has a better marketing team and is pushing for the market, or the oil money is pushing sales I don't know, but from what I saw based on store displays, SMU is the clear leader in the DFW area.
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Sure. Basically because TCU owns Fort Worth (2 million) pretty completely. Biggest college town I have ever seen. And a lot of what they do not own, they will play in Big12 games (Ttech, Baylor,Houston). So those fans that live here are interested in their games. Rangers and Cowboys play in Arlington (in the middle) but they are still Dallas pro teams, Stars and Mavericks play in Dallas. So more pro competition in Dallas.

Glad to see the SMU marketing machine revving up, cause Dallas is bigger (6 million) but except for a few grads, no deep allegiance to SMU, and they have not yet had time to lever the affiliation to the bigger league (ACC, yes, despite all the SEC, B16 bullying, we are still a bigger league to some).
Dallas (6 million) has more potential, but SMU still shares it with UT, aTm, OKla, etc. etc. Potential is there, which is why I think they are in the ACC.
 
FireballPhil said:
Just curious as to why you say TCU is the main college there. I was just down there for a week for a business conference and everywhere I went I saw tons of SMU gear being sold, compared to just a handful of places selling TCU gear. Maybe SMU has a better marketing team and is pushing for the market, or the oil money is pushing sales I don't know, but from what I saw based on store displays, SMU is the clear leader in the DFW area.
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Fort Worth is known as Cow Town, and that means that TCU is the cow town version of SMU. That means TCU is not the same insider as SMU. And that is central to then equation before we talk about how much money SMU has that has been flexed recently.

It truly takes TCU and SMU together to maximize having one within the DFW TV market, but if you canonkiy have 1m better to have SMU, because Big D is not Cow Town.
 
Dallas and Fort Worth are 32.4 miles apart. What the big deal?
 
TexanMark said:
Texas builds real nice freeways with parallel feeder roads. It can really help when there is an accident
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I will say The smaller feeder roads were a blessing. I am pretty sure it was I35 though that was a disaster of a road to drive on. Most of the others were pretty good though. Of course, it rained all week I was there, a lot of the roads were flooded, but there were definitely patches of the road that looked like they had started a repavement project and never finished them. I just figured it was like every other city, there will always be bad spots. But you are right,most of the other roads we drove on were pretty good roads.
 
SU94 said:
One good mini sign that I picked up on in the last week:

In this new 16-team CFP structure, ESPN reportedly (so I am not sure of this) has some reservations about so many of the berths coming from two leagues (even though, ironically, they had a heavy hand in creating these monsters). ESPN's stance appears top be that the CFP as is would essentially block our significant portions of the country, which will not yield ratings maximizations).

So, at least someone of significance (ESPN) at the table is pushing back (it appears) that this is becoming too much of a SEC/B1G invitational with 5-6 wild card teams thrown in.

In the end, I think that bodes well for schools like SU. Maybe we get a third auto berth for the ACC (and B12) or perhaps in the major restructure that seems inevitable will include some geographic balance. I mean, to ignore the Northeast (and Southwest/Southern California) would -- in my estimation -- be severely detrimental for the CFP.
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This has been my contention since this all started. It’s dumb to try to build a national audience while regionalizing and cementing the power in select parts of the country.
 
TexanMark said:
We'll see...but yes, greed is powerful.

The best solution for SU is 70 to 80 teams playing football at the highest level in divisions independent of conferences and other sports to include basketball in geographically sensible conferences.
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You know why I know this won’t happen. Because it makes entirely way too much sense.
 
If the ncaa had moved on a playoff system a couple decades ago, college football would have avoided all of this conference shifting nonsense. Natural regional rivalries would have survived, and college sports would be stronger than now.

AND fans would enjoy it more…

And, the colleges would still be filthy rich.

And there would be more parity. As someone said above, schools like Arkansas and Auburn and Nebraska and others who are just mired in the mega conference muck would have a chance at sustained success any given year too.
 
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All4SU said:
If the ncaa had moved on a playoff system a couple decades ago, college football would have avoided all of this conference shifting nonsense. Natural regional rivalries would have survived, and college sports would be stronger than now.

AND fans would enjoy it more…

And, the colleges would still be filthy rich.

And there would be more parity. As someone said above, schools like Arkansas and Auburn and Nebraska and others who are just mired in the mega conference muck would have a chance at sustained success any given year too.
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A lot of wishful thinking. There was absolutely no way anyone in FBS would let the NCAA set up a playoff system or do anything more with FBS than the very little they do now. The Supreme Court took all the money away from the NCAA and gave it to the schools/conferences in 1984, and there's no way in Hell they'd give any of it back.

The NCAA would keep a cut, so there's automatically less of a payout.
 
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