Alec Baldwin shooting accident

[tbonezone]

as a defense attorney i will parade 500 actors in front of a jury who've never inspected their guns for live rounds before a scene. including jane fonda.

 

[Cuseregular]

Not the end, where there is no projectile. Why are you defending the guy? He’s not untrained. He’s been in movies sets multiple times. He improperly used a gun and killed someone.
His negligence is not checking the the chamber. He claimed he was told it was a cold gun, meaning empty. Had he checked, he would have known it was hot.

Had he have checked it it wouldn’t have made a difference. It would look the same from the top with a live round or a blank round.

You don’t know what a “cold gun” means. It COULD indeed have a blank round in it that looks like a regular live round which is what a “blank” looks like as far as I’m aware. Just no projectile lead.
But the gun still looks “loaded”.

I’m sure it’s a situation he’s been in hundreds of times. They’ll correctly parade hundreds and hundreds of actors in who say the protocol is you trust The people in charge of gun safety, from the armorer to the guy who handed him the gun, and they will testify when they say it’s a cold gun, meaning filled with blanks, so it looks loaded or empty, you believe them.

The prosecution will bring in one or two people like Brad Pitt who say they always check it themselves Breaking the usual protocol, because they have experience with guns themselves.

If any of these protocols absolving responsibility to the actor, putting it squarely on the others, being their responsibility, if that exists in writing in Hollywood, then it’s a done deal it won’t even be close.

Where it gets murky for him, with an outside chance of conviction is not as his role as an actor, but more as the producer he was with respect to supposed corners cut, and the overall safety being subpar on the set including hiring such young armorer who really comes across like a dope.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

‘Rust’ Prosecutors Drop Five-Year Gun Enhancement Against Alec Baldwin

Prosecutors have dropped an enhancement that could have added an additional five years to Alec Baldwin's sentence.

variety.com

 

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‘Rust’ Prosecutors Drop Five-Year Gun Enhancement Against Alec Baldwin

Prosecutors have dropped an enhancement that could have added an additional five years to Alec Baldwin's sentence.

variety.com

How did the prosecutors not know this when they filed the charges?

 

[upperdeck]

one would think that any round that goes in a gun on a movie set would be made to look different in some way so that you could tell by looking if you tried. Whether all guns you can look easily I dont know.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

How did the prosecutors not know this when they filed the charges?

Such political BS grandstanding by the DA.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Such political BS grandstanding by the DA.

I’m seriously confused by this woman. What’s her angle here? Is New Mexico turning red and as a dem she feels the need to go hard on this prosecution to garner center right votes when she inevitably runs for governor or senator?

 

[orangefog]

I’m seriously confused by this woman. What’s her angle here? Is New Mexico turning red and as a dem she feels the need to go hard on this prosecution to garner center right votes when she inevitably runs for governor or senator?

Maybe it's because of Alec Baldwin's portrayal of Donald Trump on SNL?

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Maybe it's because of Alec Baldwin's portrayal of Donald Trump on SNL?

Again, she’s a democrat.

 

[orangefog]

Again, she’s a democrat.

Yeah, trying to get some of the Republican vote.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

In my opinion this entire fiasco is doing dishonor to the person who was killed.

 

[Toga]

All charges dismissed.

 

[orange79]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Toga]

Oh, you meant THOSE bullets.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

At opening statements Wednesday, prosecutors alleged Baldwin violated the “cardinal rules of firearm safety” by pointing the prop gun at Hutchins and pulling the trigger.

This is hilarious. It’s a prop gun. It’s a movie. He’s pretending to shoot someone. There is no more reason for Baldwin to think the prop could kill than there would be if he were holding a turkey sandwich .

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

At opening statements Wednesday, prosecutors alleged Baldwin violated the “cardinal rules of firearm safety” by pointing the prop gun at Hutchins and pulling the trigger.

This is hilarious. It’s a prop gun. It’s a movie. He’s pretending to shoot someone. There is no more reason for Baldwin to think the prop could kill than there would be if he were holding a turkey sandwich .

It’s a real gun that is used as a prop. It wasn’t a fake gun. It is supposed to be loaded with blanks. It wasn’t.

A curious thing is why there were live rounds at the set at all. I never read an explanation for that.

While I don’t like the outcome, it appears the judge really had no choice, given the misconduct (whether intentional or negligent) by the DA.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

It’s a real gun that is used as a prop. It wasn’t a fake gun. It is supposed to be loaded with blanks. It wasn’t.

A curious thing is why there were live rounds at the set at all. I never read an explanation for that.

While I don’t like the outcome, it appears the judge really had no choice, given the misconduct (whether intentional or negligent) by the DA.

Why would he have an expectation of it having a live round ? The entire thing is just dumb. It’s a freaking movie set. Why do they need all this real crap Around. Maybe they should have used a real 30 foot great white for JAWS and called him a prop Shark

 

[Brooky03]

You can be inexperienced or you can be reckless. You can't be both. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was both. I'm sure this was not the first movie in history with a tight budget and a demanding production schedule. Hundreds or thousands of other armorers figured it out. She knowingly allowed for the comingling of live and blank rounds on the set. She improperly inspected/loaded the weapon. When you are the expert and you certify something is safe for use before handing it over, you bear 100% of the responsibility for what happens.

Alec Baldwin facing charges for this accident felt like a farce from the very beginning. A prison term for one of the victims of Hannah Gutierrez-Reed's crime, was never going to be justice.