Any Chance of Coaching Changes?

[RCDICK44]

I can't believe this crap.. 1 year with the new coaches and you want changes. GIVE ME A BREAK !

 

[javadoc]

I can't believe this crap.. 1 year with the new coaches and you want changes. GIVE ME A BREAK !

To whom is that addressed? I'm mostly curious if the new coordinators are happy with all the folks who report to them, since they didn't get to fill those roles with their own candidates, or at least provide input.

 

[cusefan88]

I'd like to see the program end "cross-training" OL this spring. Find your interior guys, find your tackles, and don't move them. I think that would help. For me Vettorello needs to be shifted to tackle and they need to find probably 1-2 more interior guys to transfer in.

 

[kcsu]

I'd like to see the program end "cross-training" OL this spring. Find your interior guys, find your tackles, and don't move them. I think that would help. For me Vettorello needs to be shifted to tackle and they need to find probably 1-2 more interior guys to transfer in.

Agreed. Determine positions and dial things in.

 

[orangepassion]

If you judge Cav, what do value? Had good recruiting results in this cycle; Bergeron and Red two years ago; Ilaoa last cycle. Someone got Elmore playing well at his new position. Servais struggled against speed rushes — possibly due to injury. Vetterello needs to be stronger. Dakota and Bleich need to be healthy. What parts of this are on Cav?

We have struggled to pick up blitzes, particularly the last 2 years w/o the running threat of Dungey to make defenses more cautious. A large chunk of our sacks were not guys getting overpowered, but rather confusion among the line and someone not getting blocked (while 2 guys were blocking someone else).

 

[orangepassion]

I actually think the OL play improved as the season went on. Not that I think Cav Is a world
Beater. But considering we had zero depth, probably weren’t hitting live all they much during practice due to that depth, no spring ball, no team Activities, weight lifting , conditioning amd whatever else. I’m ok letting him stick around another year. Cav might also decide to hang it up on his own? Who knows, he coaches a season with while His wife was dealing with Cancer. God bless him for that

It feels like the OL pay improves towards the end of the year every year, but why do we always struggle most of the year? Maybe they can have Dougie come in this Spring after he gets fired for a consult and give the staff some tips.

 

[ArchDuke]

It feels like the OL pay improves towards the end of the year every year, but why do we always struggle most of the year? Maybe they can have Dougie come in this Spring after he gets fired for a consult and give the staff some tips.

This, the reality is, it’s actually more unusual to not improve in some capacity as the year goes on. I don’t get excited by seeing that, when we start the first half of the year so poorly. Low bar.

 

[kcsu]

If we want to hire a guy that can coach the OL lets grab Scott Fuchs? From Buffalo. Guy played OL at NDSU. OL coach at Nebraska Omaha and Wyoming. Can recruit and develop players.

 

[orangemass]

If we want to hire a guy that can coach the OL lets grab Scott Fuchs? From Buffalo. Guy played OL at NDSU. OL coach at Nebraska Omaha and Wyoming. Can recruit and develop players.

Watch your language

 

[Chip]

What? They should all be given a free pass this year?

I think he's good lord'ing your comment that he's given up and the administration doesn't care... so suddenly after changing both OC and DC following a 5-7 year.

Maybe Cavanaugh is a terrible line coach, I don't know. But I'm fine giving him another year with Bleich and some more healthy humans playing along the line. Vs having to move a fullback to start at guard.

 

[corpjet]

If we want to hire a guy that can coach the OL lets grab Scott Fuchs? From Buffalo. Guy played OL at NDSU. OL coach at Nebraska Omaha and Wyoming. Can recruit and develop players.

would love to see former Bengal great RT Willie Anderson get a job coaching the O-Line. Not only has he played the position, he has coached many kids and has done football camps specifically for O-lineman and third he has deep connections in the south where talent is strong and could really help with recruiting!

http://www.williesandersonlinemanacademy.net/index.html

 

[FrancoPizza]

It feels like the OL pay improves towards the end of the year every year

well there you have it - someone needs to come up with some bags before the season starts.

 

[AngryOtto]

I think he's good lord'ing your comment that he's given up and the administration doesn't care... so suddenly after changing both OC and DC following a 5-7 year.

Maybe Cavanaugh is a terrible line coach, I don't know. But I'm fine giving him another year with Bleich and some more healthy humans playing along the line. Vs having to move a fullback to start at guard.

Barbers is going to keep him but he’s risking his coaching career at su if the OL fails.

 

[BrooklynCuse]

If Dino makes an o line coach change next year I’d like to see Greg Atkins come back

 

[RandomGuy]

If Dino makes an o line coach change next year I’d like to see Greg Atkins come back

If the oline isn't fixed this year, no one gets a next year.

 

[Chip]

Barbers is going to keep him but he’s risking his coaching career at su if the OL fails.

Making a change doesn't normally equal instant success though either. If it's a more dynamic recruiter, great, but that won't make the OL better in 2021.

If he's better at developing players, great too, but again, that's probably something you're going to see over time, probably not right away.

If there's an issue with Cavanaugh, I'm sure Dino has some idea of what the specific problem is. Not just that the OL struggled so let's go get the next guy.

 

[GoSU96]

Making a change doesn't normally equal instant success though either. If it's a more dynamic recruiter, great, but that won't make the OL better in 2021.

If he's better at developing players, great too, but again, that's probably something you're going to see over time, probably not right away.

If there's an issue with Cavanaugh, I'm sure Dino has some idea of what the specific problem is. Not just that the OL struggled so let's go get the next guy.

I know who I would add as a highly paid assistant head coach to help fix the OL.

 

[sutomcat]

I know who I would add as a highly paid assistant head coach to help fix the OL.

I think he could help with the OL and really help with preparation of game plans and in game adjustments.

DM was very good in those areas.

 

[Dcuse]

If you judge Cav, what do value? Had good recruiting results in this cycle; Bergeron and Red two years ago; Ilaoa last cycle. Someone got Elmore playing well at his new position. Servais struggled against speed rushes — possibly due to injury. Vetterello needs to be stronger. Dakota and Bleich need to be healthy. What parts of this are on Cav?

Massive # of penalties, bad communication on DL stunts causing quick heavy pressure, poor decisions on who to block when guards pull on run plays.
All on Cav.

 

[RandomGuy]

Massive # of penalties, bad communication on DL stunts causing quick heavy pressure, poor decisions on who to block when guards pull on run plays.
All on Cav.

There are some that feel that Tempo is used to negate some of those intricate blitzs, and the time required to develop some of those fundamentals on the oline. I personally, have no idea. Should there be a focus on quantity over quality? That could also be a factor.

 

[SoBristol]

Massive # of penalties, bad communication on DL stunts causing quick heavy pressure, poor decisions on who to block when guards pull on run plays.
All on Cav.

Maybe. To some degree that is like suggesting an underthrown pass, or a failure to see a secondary receiver, or grounding the ball, or not anticipating a blitz, or weak effort on a QB sneak, is on the position coach, not the player. And the unprovable claim that it would not happen with better coaching.

 

[orangepassion]

If there's an issue with Cavanaugh, I'm sure Dino has some idea of what the specific problem is. Not just that the OL struggled so let's go get the next guy.

It's been 3 years and he hasn't figured it out. It's not all injuries.

 

[Cusefan69]

I think he could help with the OL and really help with preparation of game plans and in game adjustments.

DM was very good in those areas.

My guess would be there would be a battle of wills and philosophy potentially between Gilbert and Marrone. If you bring in Marrone, you would probably need to dump Gilbert. Then you would have to believe that Dino could be agreeable enough to modify his thinking some on scheme and that Marrone would be willing to as well. It would certainly be an interesting partnership but I think to much bending of wills would need to happen to make it work. They both would have to be willing to meet in the middle somewhere.

 

[Dcuse]

Maybe. To some degree that is like suggesting an underthrown pass, or a failure to see a secondary receiver, or grounding the ball, or not anticipating a blitz, or weak effort on a QB sneak, is on the position coach, not the player. And the unprovable claim that it would not happen with better coaching.

Its ALWAYS on the coach. Whether its his fault or not. That's the brutal and sometimes unfair truth to this profession.

 

[SuFTW]

Its ALWAYS on the coach. Whether its his fault or not. That's the brutal and sometimes unfair truth to this profession.

But we are trying to talk reality and not perception.