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year after year in the ACC??? Will the move essentially set us back and put us in a conference where will we have no hope of winning a title or reaching anything above mediocrity?
Will you ever make it out of your parents basement?
year after year in the ACC??? Will the move essentially set us back and put us in a conference where will we have no hope of winning a title or reaching anything above mediocrity?
No. I expect the following...
Tier 1- FSU
Tier 2- Miami, VT, Clemson, GA Tech
Tier 3- Pitt, SU, UNC, UVA, MD
Tier 4- BC, NC St, Wake
Tier 5- Duke
So a typical year SU should be fighting for 3rd to 5th in our division and be around 5-4 in conference.
No. I expect the following...
Tier 1- FSU
Tier 2- Miami, VT, Clemson, GA Tech
Tier 3- Pitt, SU, UNC, UVA, MD
Tier 4- BC, NC St, Wake
Tier 5- Duke
So a typical year SU should be fighting for 3rd to 5th in our division and be around 5-4 in conference.
I definitely don't think so.
The only FB schools in the ACC with more tradition than us are FSU and ...??..????...
Fans can argue that a Pitt or a VT or a Clemson have more tradition/momentum than us, but I like our direction.
Are we gonna win the conference every year? No. Are we gonna be more than competitive? Absolutely.
this is a really long post that makes no sense. we beat an acc team this year and we are young and terrible.Goodness... we go 8-5 last year and get swept in the Dome v. Big East (with 3 wins vs. FCS schools - yes, Akron was no better than one), and suddenly were competitive and relevant again? Yes, it's a start with tremendous road wins, but first step is winning the conference home games on a regular basis. Also, when we get a Top 25 recruiting class or even a decent recruiting class, please inform me. Or when the play calling gets somewhat exciting to watch... Because if we currently struggle to reach the middle of the pack in the BE, I'm betting the grass won't be any greener in the ACC. Duke is about the only team I'm confident we should be better than every year. Until things change we'll likely fall in the bottom 1/3 of the league each year.
Last 10 years (plus 2011) our record is as follows:
vs. Big East 22-48
vs. other BCS (inc. ND) 10-22
vs. Non-BCS (inc. FCS) 20-4
Unless Marrone has something up his sleeve, our record won't change much in the ACC. And you can't tell me it's because past recruits don't want to play at SU because of playing a BE schedule, because there's no excuse for Uconn to have surpassed us over the last few years, or for Pitt to practically own us, or to be breaking even with Rutgers... etc. The players are out there, just not signing w/ SU.
I would put Clemson with FSU in Tier 1 and move UVa to Tier 4. You might want to hold a Tier 6 open for Rutgers also.
I would put Clemson with FSU in Tier 1 and move UVa to Tier 4. You might want to hold a Tier 6 open for Rutgers also.
That's a "the glass in half-empty" approach which you're certainly entitled to.We have had a winning record twice in 10 years. Aren't we already pretty much the doormat? Heck, we just lost to Rutgers. Yes, things are improving, but every person in our fan base and every player on the team should have a "fighting out of the basement" mentality right now. We are the doormat until we win something meaningful.
44cuse
That's a huge myth. Combine the best players from all those teams and you still won't have a top 25 club.we haven't recruited well because the Northeast has more mouths to feed now in SU, RU, UConn, and BC. .
I know Clemson just beat Va Tech, but I'd be more inclined to have VT Tier 1 over Clemson. VT is just unbelievably consistent - they win 10 games virtually every year and have gone to multiple BCS bowls in recent years while Clemson has never been to one.
FSU is the only program who can actually make a NCG. That is why I have them alone. Clemson is the most overrated program outside of ND. From 1960-1976 they ended the year ranked ZERO times. Then they started cheating and were a very good program (awesome during the 80s). Once they got caught TWICE and once FSU joined the ACC, they have been a non factor. From 1992 to today, they have had ONE Top 20 finish (14/16 in 2000).
FSU is the only program who can actually make a NCG. That is why I have them alone. Clemson is the most overrated program outside of ND. From 1960-1976 they ended the year ranked ZERO times. Then they started cheating and were a very good program (awesome during the 80s). Once they got caught TWICE and once FSU joined the ACC, they have been a non factor. From 1992 to today, they have had ONE Top 20 finish (14/16 in 2000).