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FrancoPizza said:
Where you hearing this?
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Its normal is GOR disputes, they always get settled. Disgruntled parties dont want to stay and when Clemson and FSU depart the rest will follow. Same has happened in all other conference breakups. The question is how much will it cost to leave but they will be out for sure. It’s like suing the company you work for never ends well.
 
OmahaCuse said:
Its normal is GOR disputes, they always get settled. Disgruntled parties dont want to stay and when Clemson and FSU depart the rest will follow. Same has happened in all other conference breakups. The question is how much will it cost to leave but they will be out for sure. It’s like suing the company you work for never ends well.
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It's normal in GOR disputes? What other GOR disputes have ever happened in CFB?

Your post looks like that thread from the wackjob WVU fan, that said ESPN was steering the realignment conversation with the ACC.
 
bnoro said:
It's normal in GOR disputes? What other GOR disputes have ever happened in CFB?

Your post looks like that thread from the wackjob WVU fan, that said ESPN was steering the realignment conversation with the ACC.
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GOR agreements are contracts that confer exclusive media rights to televised game broadcasts from football-member institutions to their respective collegiate athletics conferences.

All conferences have GOR deals, the ACC’s is longer and the exit fee is higher. Typically they all get settled in the end. Texas, OU, PAC 12 teams, NE , Rutgers, etc You pay a separation fee to get out of a contract. Perhaps in the ACC the $ amount is so high it will take some time, but do you really think the ACC can force FSU/ Clmeson/ etc. to stay when they want to settle and go elsewhere? IMO, the only option to make them happy is change the revenue share and don’t think the ACC can really do that. I don‘t think ESPN (they have financial trouble) is interested in giving the ACC more money thus will let it fall apart Instead of saving it by increasing the contract payments. Would like to hear some legal folks chime in this topic. Curious to hear what outcome you think we will see? I would like to see the ACC survive and wanted the old Big East to survive also.
 
OmahaCuse said:
GOR agreements are contracts that confer exclusive media rights to televised game broadcasts from football-member institutions to their respective collegiate athletics conferences.

All conferences have GOR deals, the ACC’s is longer and the exit fee is higher. Typically they all get settled in the end. Texas, OU, PAC 12 teams, NE , Rutgers, etc You pay a separation fee to get out of a contract. Perhaps in the ACC the $ amount is so high it will take some time, but do you really think the ACC can force FSU/ Clmeson/ etc. to stay when they want to settle and go elsewhere? IMO, the only option to make them happy is change the revenue share and don’t think the ACC can really do that. I don‘t think ESPN (they have financial trouble) is interested in giving the ACC more money thus will let it fall apart Instead of saving it by increasing the contract payments. Would like to hear some legal folks chime in this topic. Curious to hear what outcome you think we will see? I would like to see the ACC survive and wanted the old Big East to survive also.
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The GOR lasts through 2036. The ACC won’t settle just because Clemson and FSU want to.

From the Athletic:
“Florida State’s lawyers and media consultants estimate that leaving the ACC now would cost the school $572 million: $429 million for the forfeiture of media rights through 2036 ($33 million for 13 years), $13 million for unreimbursed broadcast fees ($1 million for 13 years); and the exit fee of three times the total operating budget for the ACC, which is approximately $130 million.”
 
OmahaCuse said:
GOR agreements are contracts that confer exclusive media rights to televised game broadcasts from football-member institutions to their respective collegiate athletics conferences.

All conferences have GOR deals, the ACC’s is longer and the exit fee is higher. Typically they all get settled in the end. Texas, OU, PAC 12 teams, NE , Rutgers, etc You pay a separation fee to get out of a contract. Perhaps in the ACC the $ amount is so high it will take some time, but do you really think the ACC can force FSU/ Clmeson/ etc. to stay when they want to settle and go elsewhere? IMO, the only option to make them happy is change the revenue share and don’t think the ACC can really do that. I don‘t think ESPN (they have financial trouble) is interested in giving the ACC more money thus will let it fall apart Instead of saving it by increasing the contract payments. Would like to hear some legal folks chime in this topic. Curious to hear what outcome you think we will see? I would like to see the ACC survive and wanted the old Big East to survive also.
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The Pac 12 had no GOR media agreement when they left, it had expired. Texas and Oklahoma had to wait from 2021 when they announced they were leaving for the SEC till 2024 which left only a year till their GOR expired in 2025. They negotiated to pay $100 million to the Big 12 and an additional payment to FOX to leave the GOR a year early. To leave earlier was cost prohibitive. The ACC’s GOR is through 2036, which FSU etc agreed to and to leave 11-12 years early from the ACC plus the payment to ESPN for the media right is totally cost prohibitive, thus the crazy lawsuit. The conference GORs haven’t been broken. Here’s a better explanation.
www.espn.com

Florida State vs. ACC grant of rights lawsuit: What you need to know

Florida State has taken the first official step toward eventually leaving the ACC. What does it all mean?
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
Cheriehoop said:
The Pac 12 had no GOR media agreement when they left, it had expired. Texas and Oklahoma had to wait from 2021 when they announced they were leaving for the SEC till 2024 which left only a year till their GOR expired in 2025. They negotiated to pay $100 million to the Big 12 and an additional payment to FOX to leave the GOR a year early. To leave earlier was cost prohibitive. The ACC’s GOR is through 2036, which FSU etc agreed to and to leave 11-12 years early to the ACC plus the payment to ESPN for the media right is totally cost prohibitive, thus the crazy lawsuit. The conference GORs haven’t been broken. Here’s a better explanation.
www.espn.com

Florida State vs. ACC grant of rights lawsuit: What you need to know

Florida State has taken the first official step toward eventually leaving the ACC. What does it all mean?
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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FSU, nor anyone, is leaving in roughly the next decade as the cost is way to high. FSU is not paying $600+MM to leave the ACC and they know it. This is all around FSU seeing the B1G / SEC getting more $$ from TV and Playoff monies as well as the spreading of FUD on the P2 breaking away and being left out. Every legal analysis, that isn’t FSU biased, says the ACC is in a position of strength and the FSU filing is really poor at best. If FSU or anyone wants out, pay up the 1/2+ Billion dollars.

A whole lot can change in CFP landscape in terms of conference affiliation and $$ over the next 10 years or so including SU winning it’s 2nd national championship ;-).
 
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OmahaCuse said:
GOR agreements are contracts that confer exclusive media rights to televised game broadcasts from football-member institutions to their respective collegiate athletics conferences.

All conferences have GOR deals, the ACC’s is longer and the exit fee is higher. Typically they all get settled in the end. Texas, OU, PAC 12 teams, NE , Rutgers, etc You pay a separation fee to get out of a contract. Perhaps in the ACC the $ amount is so high it will take some time, but do you really think the ACC can force FSU/ Clmeson/ etc. to stay when they want to settle and go elsewhere? IMO, the only option to make them happy is change the revenue share and don’t think the ACC can really do that. I don‘t think ESPN (they have financial trouble) is interested in giving the ACC more money thus will let it fall apart Instead of saving it by increasing the contract payments. Would like to hear some legal folks chime in this topic. Curious to hear what outcome you think we will see? I would like to see the ACC survive and wanted the old Big East to survive also.
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They can leave, just get out the checkbook.

The issue is they don’t want to abide by the terms of the contract
 
The non money side of this says they would be stupid to leave a league where they can be top 1-2-3 if they are decent to go to the SEC where the can be good and 4-5-6 or the B10 where the travel will be much harder, the weather much worse and still be 4-5-6.

Money with no reward is gonna kill the program more then less money with a reward in the ACC.
 
upperdeck said:
The non money side of this says they would be stupid to leave a league where they can be top 1-2-3 if they are decent to go to the SEC where the can be good and 4-5-6 or the B10 where the travel will be much harder, the weather much worse and still be 4-5-6.

Money with no reward is gonna kill the program more then less money with a reward in the ACC.
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Look at Nebraska. Is PSU really any better off now than they were as an Independent? Maryland?
 
OmahaCuse said:
GOR agreements are contracts that confer exclusive media rights to televised game broadcasts from football-member institutions to their respective collegiate athletics conferences.

All conferences have GOR deals, the ACC’s is longer and the exit fee is higher. Typically they all get settled in the end. Texas, OU, PAC 12 teams, NE , Rutgers, etc You pay a separation fee to get out of a contract. Perhaps in the ACC the $ amount is so high it will take some time, but do you really think the ACC can force FSU/ Clmeson/ etc. to stay when they want to settle and go elsewhere? IMO, the only option to make them happy is change the revenue share and don’t think the ACC can really do that. I don‘t think ESPN (they have financial trouble) is interested in giving the ACC more money thus will let it fall apart Instead of saving it by increasing the contract payments. Would like to hear some legal folks chime in this topic. Curious to hear what outcome you think we will see? I would like to see the ACC survive and wanted the old Big East to survive also.
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Now that's a bold statement.
 
It sure would be nice to have a redshirt freshman LaNorris Sellers on the roster right now.

Sellers, who was named the Joe Morrison Offensive Player of the Spring, finished the night completing 9-of-11 passes for 70 yards and rushing five times for 38 yards.
 
Ok I found the guy we should go after as QB2: Brendan Sullivan transfer from Northwestern. Has two years left, is from Michigan so not terribly far from home if he comes to SU. Didn’t play a ton at Northwestern but when he did he was pretty solid:

www.espn.com

Brendan Sullivan - Iowa Hawkeyes Quarterback - ESPN

View the profile of Iowa Hawkeyes Quarterback Brendan Sullivan on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
djorange1989 said:
Ok I found the guy we should go after as QB2: Brendan Sullivan transfer from Northwestern. Has two years left, is from Michigan so not terribly far from home if he comes to SU. Didn’t play a ton at Northwestern but when he did he was pretty solid:

www.espn.com

Brendan Sullivan - Iowa Hawkeyes Quarterback - ESPN

View the profile of Iowa Hawkeyes Quarterback Brendan Sullivan on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Not much time left for him. He would need to be ok with not playing for a year and competing the following year vs QB's the staff brings in. That's not a sure thing
 
money3189 said:
Not much time left for him. He would need to be ok with not playing for a year and competing the following year vs QB's the staff brings in. That's not a sure thing
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Agree but you gotta try, Va Tech just brought in the UCLA transfer Schlee, he is in the same situation, no way he starts over Drones, but they got him. Not easy but we need a legit backup, Fran needs to be Fran and sell it! Somehow!
 
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