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BC Postgame Thoughts

I wish the staff could get Taylor to bend his knees. He’s very straight up on offense and all his shots look like muscle shots. He’s not ready to shoot. He always standing up when he catches the ball and then uses all upper body to shoot the ball. His balance is usually bad and his shot his stiff and flat. He needs to get shot ready with his knees bent, ready to catch and shoot. I love the kids effort, but fundamentally he has flaws in his shooting mechanics. His off hand is all messed up being on top of the ball. Habits are hard to break, but shot ready skills can easily be fixed.
 
I think opposing teams base line out of bounds against our 2-3 zone has to be like a 70% success rate. Can we please stop doing that.
Yeah, I like the idea of using a zone to throw the other team off their rhythm. Doing it on every underneath OOB is like throwing a curve ball on all 1-2 counts. If our 2-3 on underneath OOB bounds was wildly successful statistically then, yes, go with it. The question is "what is the intended strategy, and do the results validate that strategy?"
 
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I wish the staff could get Taylor to bend his knees. He’s very straight up on offense and all his shots look like muscle shots. He’s not ready to shoot. He always standing up when he catches the ball and then uses all upper body to shoot the ball. His balance is usually bad and his shot his stiff and flat. He needs to get shot ready with his knees bent, ready to catch and shoot. I love the kids effort, but fundamentally he has flaws in his shooting mechanics. His off hand is all messed up being on top of the ball. Habits are hard to break, but shot ready skills can easily be fixed.

I haven't been to a game yet this year, but has anyone watched him shoot around in warm ups? Does his form look just as awful then or is it more normal as he's more relaxed? I honestly don't know how his jumpers ever go in the hoop at all with where his off hand is, where the release point is and the high arching trajectory of the ball. Seems like he has no control over it.
 
Yeah, I like the idea of using a zone to throw the other team off their rhythm. Doing it on every underneath OOB is like throwing a curve ball on all 1-2 counts. If our 2-3 on underneath OOB bounds was wildly successful statistically then, yes, go with it. The question is "what is the intended strategy, and do the results validate that strategy?"
Agreed on all counts. I don’t mind the switch up if it’s effective, but instead of the purpose which I think is to cause a trap on the in bounds, it ends up with a wide open look at the end. Doesn’t appear to be working.
 
One game doesn't define what should or shouldn't be done going foward ,BUT, this team ran more smooth with Copeland at the point. Pick your poison who's the shooting guard but give the PG reigns to Copeland until he screws it up. He's a little too loose with the ball and needs to tighten it up but he looks to get everyone involved which is better for the team.

When Mintz is the PG everyone just stands around watching him shoot. His me first mentality is just not for me. But he has to play so put him off ball and Starling can come of the bench. Starling gives you the least of the 3.

Justin Taylor should just stop shooting. He's shooting about 30% from the field over the last 10 games. Hit the glass and play defense. People criticize him for this part of his game but he's the only other player outside of MBrown who rebounds consistently.

Bell took defensive heat last night but to my eyes he was extremely active and works hard. I was specifically watching him as the guy he was guarding was running around all over the place coming off screens and Bell was mostly with him. Occasionally he got picked off but everybody does. The BC kid was making him work. IMO, the pick and roll defense needs some work, that's where we get caught but it's correctable if we have the coaching. Are we going over the pick or under the pick and what to do with the player coming off the roll.

Benny is an enigma. You need minutes from him but he's just not that good. Can't shoot, can't dribble. He should spell Taylor with instructions to hit the glass and play D.

The starting combo was good last night, played the first 8/9 minutes of the game and built a huge lead. I think you give Copeland the nod at PG and night to night you find the best combination for what's working.
 
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One game doesn't define what should or shouldn't be done going foward ,BUT, this team ran more smooth with Copeland at the point. Starling is very limited and Mintz's me first mentality is just not for me. Pick your poison who's the shooting guard but I'm giving the PG reigns to Copeland until he screws it up. He's a little too loose with the ball and needs to tighten it up but I'm willing to go with him because he looks to get everyone involved which is better for the team.

When Mintz is the PG everyone just stands around watching him shoot. He has to play so I'm putting him off ball and Starling can come of the bench.

Justin Taylor should just stop shooting. He's shooting about 30% from the field over the last 10 games. Hit the glass and play defense. People criticize him for this part of his game but he's the only other player outside of MBrown who rebounds consistently.

Bell took defensive heat last night but in my eyes he was extremely active and works hard. I was specifically watching him as the guy he was guarding was running around all over the place off screens and Bell was mostly with him. Occasionally he got picked off but everybody does. The BC kid was making him work. IMO, the pick and roll defense needs some work, that's where we get caught but it's correctable if we have the coaching. Are we going over the pick or under the pick and what to do with the player coming off the roll.

Benny is an enigma. You need minutes from him but he's just not that good. Can't shoot, can't dribble. He should spell Taylor with instructions to hit the glass and play D.

The starting combo was good last night, played the first 7 minutes of the game and built a huge lead. I think you give Copeland the nod at PG and night to night you find the best combination for what's working.
Good post. I don’t love the “me first” theme around Judah. He seems like a good teammate and person. I think he is so successful driving to the basket against lower level teams that he genuinely thinks he can do the same against better teams. Then the good teams game plan against him, his production plummets, and he gets frustrated. Two things that might help are having better shooters to kick out to and if Red ran more plays. Judah seems to be unsuccessfully improvising, unlike Copeland.
 
Agreed on all counts. I don’t mind the switch up if it’s effective, but instead of the purpose which I think is to cause a trap on the in bounds, it ends up with a wide open look at the end. Doesn’t appear to be working.
Actually, it is accomplishing the purpose. The goal (at least, per JB when he used to do it out of a base m2m) is to prevent them from inbounding to someone cutting to the basket. It has been successful at doing that.

It's up to Red as to whether he thinks it's working, overall. Hard to tell because they don't have a track record of running m2m against the inbounds to compare to.
 
Two things that might help are having better shooters to kick out to and if Red ran more plays.
Yeah, and I also think as a corollary that if Red didn't think the best chance to win was having Judah do his thing, we wouldn't see Judah driving and taking as many shots.
 
Actually, it is accomplishing the purpose. The goal (at least, per JB when he used to do it out of a base m2m) is to prevent them from inbounding to someone cutting to the basket. It has been successful at doing that.

It's up to Red as to whether he thinks it's working, overall. Hard to tell because they don't have a track record of running m2m against the inbounds to compare to.
yeah, I hear what you are saying, but I don't see how preventing the inbounds from getting an easy 2, but then letting up an easy 2 (or even worse, 3) later in the possession is better? Once they post the replay, I'll check, but I think we played OOB zone 3-4 times and I believe they scored at least 3 times. I think it's worth it to see the M2M to compare.
 
Mere coincidence……..or was it ?
Listen - we can’t win an entire game without him.
He’s too talented, too good.
But opening games without him?
Might be an option…. Like Dion Waiters… (I mentioned it before)
 
Did a quick catchup so may have missed this but most impressive part of Maliq’s game last night was him completely shutting down Post.

0 points, fouled out and visibly frustrated all game. He came in averaging 18 a game and borderline all-ACC. He was a shell of himself and that was awesome to see.
 
had we run batter fast break stuff we probbaly score 10 more pts. Then you add the lost points to bad rebounding and what was a 15 pt win becomes a tough game
There was one fast break by Taylor that was a 5 point swing. We missed the easy two and BC grabbed the rebound and hit a fast break open three. Terrible sequence.
 
I can't believe Red actually benched JJ at the end of the game. He wasn't even looking at the basket last night. He was just out there. Just when everyone thought he was out of his early season funk the last few games have been a big step back.
To be fair, any guy makes a shot or does something they don’t usually do it’s paraded on here with “He’s back!!!!!” Or “(player x) needs to keep doing that it’ll fix a glaring issue we have”. It’s like when Roberson hit one of his 4 mid range shots a year and you’d think he was on his way to the NBA. I’m sure after UNC people will wonder why Bell only scores 5 points and have 1 rebound.
 
a couple of the losses were the same issue.. We have so few shooting options to stay in a game where we go cold.
We also way too frequently have 4-5 minute cold stretches without a basket. It’s a killer against good teams. Our best hope when we need a basket is Judah iso and drawing a foul.
 
There was one fast break by Taylor that was a 5 point swing. We missed the easy two and BC grabbed the rebound and hit a fast break open three. Terrible sequence.
it feels like if they cant do an alley oop they have no idea how to attack the fast break.
 
Can somone tell me how this net ranking makes any sense? and we beat Pitt head on

net rank
quad wins/losses 1 2 3 4
6665PittsburghACC10-62-11-17-40-40-15-15-0
6767IowaBig Ten9-60-42-17-10-51-01-17-0
6869North TexasAAC7-51-11-45-00-31-13-03-1
6972NorthwesternBig Ten12-32-12-18-13-21-02-06-1
7071George MasonAtlantic 1012-33-11-18-10-12-04-26-0
7166NC StateACC11-42-11-28-10-42-01-08-0
7259Saint Joseph'sAtlantic 1010-51-42-07-12-10-10-28-1
7376SyracuseACC10-41-21-28-01-41-06-02-0
 
Can somone tell me how this net ranking makes any sense? and we beat Pitt head on

net rank
quad wins/losses 1 2 3 4
6665PittsburghACC10-62-11-17-40-40-15-15-0
6767IowaBig Ten9-60-42-17-10-51-01-17-0
6869North TexasAAC7-51-11-45-00-31-13-03-1
6972NorthwesternBig Ten12-32-12-18-13-21-02-06-1
7071George MasonAtlantic 1012-33-11-18-10-12-04-26-0
7166NC StateACC11-42-11-28-10-42-01-08-0
7259Saint Joseph'sAtlantic 1010-51-42-07-12-10-10-28-1
7376SyracuseACC10-41-21-28-01-41-06-02-0
last 4 columns quad wins/losses
 
Can somone tell me how this net ranking makes any sense? and we beat Pitt head on

net rank
quad wins/losses 1 2 3 4
6665PittsburghACC10-62-11-17-40-40-15-15-0
6767IowaBig Ten9-60-42-17-10-51-01-17-0
6869North TexasAAC7-51-11-45-00-31-13-03-1
6972NorthwesternBig Ten12-32-12-18-13-21-02-06-1
7071George MasonAtlantic 1012-33-11-18-10-12-04-26-0
7166NC StateACC11-42-11-28-10-42-01-08-0
7259Saint Joseph'sAtlantic 1010-51-42-07-12-10-10-28-1
7376SyracuseACC10-41-21-28-01-41-06-02-0
Noise. Difference of seven spots is not significant.
 
Can somone tell me how this net ranking makes any sense? and we beat Pitt head on

net rank
quad wins/losses 1 2 3 4
6665PittsburghACC10-62-11-17-40-40-15-15-0
6767IowaBig Ten9-60-42-17-10-51-01-17-0
6869North TexasAAC7-51-11-45-00-31-13-03-1
6972NorthwesternBig Ten12-32-12-18-13-21-02-06-1
7071George MasonAtlantic 1012-33-11-18-10-12-04-26-0
7166NC StateACC11-42-11-28-10-42-01-08-0
7259Saint Joseph'sAtlantic 1010-51-42-07-12-10-10-28-1
7376SyracuseACC10-41-21-28-01-41-06-02-0
We haven’t beaten anybody good.
 
Can somone tell me how this net ranking makes any sense? and we beat Pitt head on

net rank
quad wins/losses 1 2 3 4
6665PittsburghACC10-62-11-17-40-40-15-15-0
6767IowaBig Ten9-60-42-17-10-51-01-17-0
6869North TexasAAC7-51-11-45-00-31-13-03-1
6972NorthwesternBig Ten12-32-12-18-13-21-02-06-1
7071George MasonAtlantic 1012-33-11-18-10-12-04-26-0
7166NC StateACC11-42-11-28-10-42-01-08-0
7259Saint Joseph'sAtlantic 1010-51-42-07-12-10-10-28-1
7376SyracuseACC10-41-21-28-01-41-06-02-0
All of our losses are by 20 points, thats a metric killer
 

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