Bills 2024 Thread - Misery loves company

[JeremyCuse]

Also I love Beane but time he starts feeling some heat. Kincaid and Coleman 3 catches for 25 yards. Terrible

 

[IthacaBarrel]

McDermotts a much better coach but one has beaten KC in the playoffs (and Buffalo) and ones been to the SB. I'd rather get to the SB.

Meh. I’d rather be the bills the last 5 years than Cinci but everybody is different. Bills were way better than expected this year for sure but were a game short once again

 

[JeremyCuse]

5 years from now sure but not anytime soon

2-3 years I think, they pressure from the media and fanbase is gonna become overwhelming.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Also I love Beane but time he starts feeling some heat. Kincaid and Coleman 3 catches for 25 yards. Terrible

Heat? Again, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon, he’s safer than McDermott

 

[ForCuseSake]

Also I love Beane but time he starts feeling some heat. Kincaid and Coleman 3 catches for 25 yards. Terrible

Kincaid was a great pick. Not his fault the OC didn’t make him more active in today’s offense.

Coleman was a reach and had a mediocre rookie year.

Beane needs to have a stellar offseason and retool the defense.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

2-3 years I think, they pressure from the media and fanbase is gonna become overwhelming.

sure If he misses that playoffs a couple years in a row. much like Steelers fans want to replace Tomlin, owner ain’t caving there

 

[JeremyCuse]

Heat? Again, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon, he’s safer than McDermott

Heat as in changing some scouting practices, changing up evaluations, some new front office personnel etc. Beane's not getting getting fired clearly but to many 1st round misses to keep the status quo

 

[syrBossHogg]

Heat? Again, he’s not going anywhere anytime soon, he’s safer than McDermott

Agreed

 

[STEVEHOLT]

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[JeremyCuse]

sure If he misses that playoffs a couple years in a row. much like Steelers fans want to replace Tomlin, owner ain’t caving there

The Steelers are a major outlier and even they are nearing the end with Tomlin. I don't think Pegula is in that mold

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Great game. Sadly, I think a very thin secondary wound up too hurt to finish off what is ultimately a great season, especially considering this was the season of eating some dead money and moving on from older defensive players.

Been saying it all year. The ONE guy on offense or defense they can’t recover from besides Allen is Benford

 

[ForCuseSake]

5 years from now sure but not anytime soon

You’re nuts if you believe Terry Pegula is giving McDermott 5 more years of Josh Allen and no Super Bowls.

New stadium + fan unrest over incumbent coach’s failure to get to a SB and he’s gone.

 

[JeremyCuse]

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I thought that spot was bad watching it live but don't think we even considered a challenge

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Also I love Beane but time he starts feeling some heat. Kincaid and Coleman 3 catches for 25 yards. Terrible

Kincaid has this bad habit of diving when he doesn’t have to .

 

[JeremyCuse]

You’re nuts if you believe Terry Pegula is giving McDermott 5 more years of Josh Allen and no Super Bowls.

New stadium + fan unrest over incumbent coach’s failure to get to a SB and he’s gone.

Agreed

 

[JeremyCuse]

Kincaid has this bad habit of diving when he doesn’t have to .

Yup ever since you said that earlier this year ivd noticed it more and more. Good catch.

 

[Cusefan0307]

You’re nuts if you believe Terry Pegula is giving McDermott 5 more years of Josh Allen and no Super Bowls.

New stadium + fan unrest over incumbent coach’s failure to get to a SB and he’s gone.

I think eventually they’ll get there, but the problem is the AFC is loaded at QB and there’s 2 other guys as good or almost as good as Allen in the AFC chasing Mahomes as well.

 

[ForCuseSake]

I think eventually they’ll get there, but the problem is the AFC is loaded at QB and there’s 2 other guys as good or almost as good as Allen in the AFC chasing Mahomes as well.

No doubt, it’s as tough a road as any in the modern NFL.

Pegula is hemorrhaging cash on the new stadium and running his beloved Sabres on less than a shoestring budget.

Tons of WNYers are pulling back on Bills tix because of the PSL and increased cost.

He’ll have a hard time running the team if the cumulative impact of running the McBeane show back with no SB starts to erode the fanbase.

It won’t be like the interregnum after Ralph died when fans sucked it up supporting crappy football so the team wouldn’t move.

 

[Melancer46]

Pete Carroll was the last defensive head coach to win a SB without a QB named Tom Brady (Feb 2014).

Josh is a fantastic generational talent but he needs quality offensive play calling/game plans like every other SB winning QB over the last decade had.

Well yeah, if you eliminate like half of the Super Bowl winners because they had a good QB with the defensive coach, the pickings are slim. Dating back to 2000, 40% had a defensive background.

And Josh had mostly great play calling/game plans this season, which is a big part of why he nearly won MVP (assuming he didn't actually win based on the All Pro voting, but I know he's back to being the betting favorite for some reason).

 

[Melancer46]

i need a break from the Bills once again

Well boy do I have some good news for you!

 

[JeremyCuse]

Well yeah, if you eliminate like half of the Super Bowl winners because they had a good QB with the defensive coach, the pickings are slim. Dating back to 2000, 40% had a defensive background.

And Josh had mostly great play calling/game plans this season, which is a big part of why he nearly won MVP (assuming he didn't actually win based on the All Pro voting, but I know he's back to being the betting favorite for some reason).

Brady wa excellent for the most part this year but didn't love tonight at all. He falls in love with that tush push way to much and Cook only had 13 carries

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Yup ever since you said that earlier this year ivd noticed it more and more. Good catch.

It’s ok to lean down and catch it . Good receivers make difficult catches look easy ., he was drafted specifically as an offensive TE. Frankly Knox is better

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Brady wa excellent for the most part this year but didn't love tonight at all. He falls in love with that tush push way to much and Cook only had 13 carries

Ty Johnson getting a first down carry on the last drive was dumb

 

[ForCuseSake]

Well yeah, if you eliminate like half of the Super Bowl winners because they had a good QB with the defensive coach, the pickings are slim. Dating back to 2000, 40% had a defensive background.

And Josh had mostly great play calling/game plans this season, which is a big part of why he nearly won MVP (assuming he didn't actually win based on the All Pro voting, but I know he's back to being the betting favorite for some reason).

Ok, look at the SB losers…

Majority of SB losers from the last decade + were offensive head coaches.

Point I’m making is you have better odds of making a SB with an offensive head coach than defensive one.

Edit - Brady had a great year and has been Josh’s best OC since Daboll. He didn’t have a great second half tonight.

 

[Melancer46]

It will happen eventually. Buffalo will fall in the wild card round or lose in the Divisonal to Balt or Chiefs again and they'll make a change. Eventually every owners patience runs out

I tend to agree with you that it will eventually happen if we continue to come up short. And I don't necessarily think it's wrong to eventually do it. Having said that, I think McD is probably in the 5-10 range of coaches in the league, maybe even in the top 5. Will be very difficult to get an upgrade, but sometimes you don't really need an upgrade so much as simply something different.

Tampa Bay going from Dungy to Gruden for example; both were fantastic coaches at the time but Tampa continued to come up short against the Eagles and finally decided to try something new. Idk if Gruden was an "upgrade" but he was the right coach for them in the moment.