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At this point, one explanation is that Fran is bolting and wants us to not miss him as much. The other is that he is like the guy that wins big gambling in Vegas… thinks he has the golden touch… starts losing… still thinking that he has the golden touch, keeps going to the ATM to get more… and keeps losing that.

This was all very easy. Start Carney and give him his chance. If he fails, put Collins back in to be the hero or also fail (again). Collins seems to do best when the pressure drops down a notch. Carney could take the heat off Collins in Q1. Instead, Fran went for the grand slam, even though any hit out of the infield would have scored the winning run. And then lost a winnable game.
 
So he wanted to tell us something and in the process throw his kids under the bus by setting them up to fail. Thats a fireable offense and not the way leaders of men behave .
Last night was coaching malpractice. I can't fathom how anyone is trying to pass this off as anything else. This is not the way adults run football programs.
 
The fans calling for Ricky to be benched, were not calling for a walk on qb. They were calling for Carney to be given a real shot or for the 4 star qb Jakhari Williams. The only reason I can think Fran started and played Filardi most of the game is to prove to fans he was right about Collins being our best option. But really we don't know if Carney or Williams aren't given real playing time...
If this is true (Fran proving a point that Collins is the best option), I want Fran gone now. He does not deserve to be a head coach.

That said, I would be totally shocked if Fran would be that petty. I want to believe that is not the case. Maybe Fran knows that our chances of beating UNC with Ricky are slim so he wants to see what he has in the stable with the yougins. Doesn't explain Carney though, unless there is an injury that we don't know about.

I am concerned that Fran is losing the team. There is no fire, just lackluster play. Will he be able to keep recruits and current players out of the portal? I hope so but the DART is becoming dull.
 
Last night was coaching malpractice. I can't fathom how anyone is trying to pass this off as anything else. This is not the way adults run football programs.
Fran has gone from “SEC coach” target to even Rutgers might pass… in 6 weeks. From huge extension to “not so fast.”

Tennessee has the worst defense in the SEC… UConn gave away the game to us… Colgate scored too much on us and intercepted Collins… 4 ACC blowouts… a relatively close game against Pitt… and the great Clemson game.
 
Isn’t it still possible that the reason he did this is because Carney doesn’t look too different than Filardi when throwing the ball? It seems like people are clinging to the possibility of Carney being legit because we don’t have enough live game footage to be proven otherwise.

I feel like the qb situation is just next level awful and people have to cool it with the “malpractice” “out of spite” type takes. Think he deserves the most grief for the total whiff on the evaluation of Collins.
 
Has anyone looked at next year’s schedule.
@ Pitt -loss
@ NC -loss
@ Virginia- loss
@ BC and @ UCONN tossups
Home vs. ND - loss
Home vs. Louisville - loss
Home vs. Clemson tossup
Home vs. Cal tossup
Home vs. SMU tossup
Home New Hampshire and Toledo wins

Hard finding six wins there. Next years over under will be 5.5
 
If this is true (Fran proving a point that Collins is the best option), I want Fran gone now. He does not deserve to be a head coach.

That said, I would be totally shocked if Fran would be that petty. I want to believe that is not the case. Maybe Fran knows that our chances of beating UNC with Ricky are slim so he wants to see what he has in the stable with the yougins. Doesn't explain Carney though, unless there is an injury that we don't know about.

I am concerned that Fran is losing the team. There is no fire, just lackluster play. Will he be able to keep recruits and current players out of the portal? I hope so but the DART is becoming dull.
I for Inflexible, refusing to modify the offense

E for emotional, making bad decisi
Isn’t it still possible that the reason he did this is because Carney doesn’t look too different than Filardi when throwing the ball? It seems like people are clinging to the possibility of Carney being legit because we don’t have enough live game footage to be proven otherwise.

I feel like the qb situation is just next level awful and people have to cool it with the “malpractice” “out of spite” type takes. Think he deserves the most grief for the total whiff on the evaluation of Collins.
if our QB#2 for the last four weeks is worse than a walk-on, then why is he QB#2? If QB#3, JW, is unplayable, why is he QB#3? If Filardi is as good or better than Carney/Williams, then why is he not QB#2/QB#3? If Collins can play to clear failure point and Filardi gets several drives… why can’t Carney get 3 series? We moved into FG Position with him because of his mobility… and then lost it of course… but not like he was terrible. If he erred taking the sack, so what? Collins has numerous turnovers and Filardi lost a fumble.
 
Isn’t it still possible that the reason he did this is because Carney doesn’t look too different than Filardi when throwing the ball? It seems like people are clinging to the possibility of Carney being legit because we don’t have enough live game footage to be proven otherwise.

I feel like the qb situation is just next level awful and people have to cool it with the “malpractice” “out of spite” type takes. Think he deserves the most grief for the total whiff on the evaluation of Collins.
Yeah, from what I understand Carney didn’t play big time football in Texas, and might not be the prospect some assume. However, I think this staff deserves some blame for really poor QB evaluation. Football is a passing game these days, and guys who complete passes are a dime a dozen. Heisman candidates and pro prospects are tough to find, but semi competent QB play shouldn’t be as challenging.
 
After looking at Filardi’s stats, you have to wonder about the quality of the defensive backfields in Long Island high schools.

Fran let everybody down last night. His program, his players, the fans, the alumni, the city and everybody he claims he is coaching for. Sending a lacrosse player out to play quarterback against North Carolina was absolute coaching malpractice. It was a slap in the face to any of our kids who were out there trying to win.Collins is not good, but you can’t say he wouldn’t have given us a better chance to win last night.
 
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I dont understand or honestly trust the staffs talent evaluations at this point. They supposedly sunk 500k of NIL money into a 3rd string LSU QB who turned out to be one of the worst QBs in D1. Then they failed to develop or have anyone else in the QB room ready to be even remotely serviceable. They're playing an unrated walk on lacrosse player at QB over 3 star rated scholarship QBs in Belin, Williams and Carney. And their in game management of Carney defies logic.

Staff needs to take a step back and figure it out fast.
 
Yeah, from what I understand Carney didn’t play big time football in Texas, and might not be the prospect some assume. However, I think this staff deserves some blame for really poor QB evaluation. Football is a passing game these days, and guys who complete passes are a dime a dozen. Heisman candidates and pro prospects are tough to find, but semi competent QB play shouldn’t be as challenging.
There’s a reason no one in Texas recruited him.
 
What is truly bizarre is he was our sixth string QB at the beginning of the year.
Probably got no attention at all in preseason and probably got only a tiny bit since Angeli went down.
Yet he leapfrogged Collins, Carney, Beilein and Jakhari to get the start.
If Carney doesn’t know the playbook, how can this poor guy who plays lacrosse for us and is a walkon for football besides.

I did think he kept his poise, seemed a lot more calm and in control.
Timing was definitely off but considering how many passes he has probably thrown to our starters, frankly understandable.
His best throw was to his fellow frosh who he probably has practice experience with,
For whatever reason, he was Frans sacrificial lamb.

I still have no idea if Carney is any good because he didn’t even throw.
For whatever reason, he is Frans yo-yo.

I doubt if I will even watch the ND and Miami games as we will be slaughtered.
Though I find the Filardi experiment oddly interesting, I fear he could be badly injured in those games and jeopardize his future on our lacrosse team.
I have tickets to the ND game but don’t look forward to going.
Guess I’ll tailgate & drink a lot
 
I'm not giving the coaches the benefit of the doubt on any of the decisions made at QB until I see Carney be allowed to face plant the way Collins and Filardi were.
You will wait forever for that, Luke will never get the opportunity to run the full offense at Syracuse. Fran made his bed with the statement Rickie is our best option to win. His ego won't allow him to take a chance to be proven wrong a second time.
He will get better with saying stupid things in press conferences the longer he coaches.
But we won't ever find out if Luke could have won us a couple of games.
He will end up playing somewhere else and we will never know.
 
Isn’t it still possible that the reason he did this is because Carney doesn’t look too different than Filardi when throwing the ball? It seems like people are clinging to the possibility of Carney being legit because we don’t have enough live game footage to be proven otherwise.

I feel like the qb situation is just next level awful and people have to cool it with the “malpractice” “out of spite” type takes. Think he deserves the most grief for the total whiff on the evaluation of Collins.

Carney play 1.75 series against PITT and had just as many completions as Filardi did in the entire game versus UNC. One is a QB and one is a LAX player. If Fran and Nixon think they are equal then that is the real issue they are terrible at evaluating the QB position and don’t know what actual translates to the field.
 
Fran has gone from “SEC coach” target to even Rutgers might pass… in 6 weeks. From huge extension to “not so fast.”

Tennessee has the worst defense in the SEC… UConn gave away the game to us… Colgate scored too much on us and intercepted Collins… 4 ACC blowouts… a relatively close game against Pitt… and the great Clemson game.

This is why you don't overreact. Things can get better in 2026 as quickly as they got bad in 2025. There's a foundation and some talent to work with.
 
Cause maybe Fran is mostly talk. And some of it really isn't truthful. To us or to his players. "QB1 was a close contest"

For sure. I'm not sure how anyone (at least at this stage) can't see this being a legitimate truth, and him rolling as a 'style over substance' figure. I mean, it's not as if he has a track record of success as a HC, last year was his first ever in that position. And, perhaps just as Dino's 10 win season and riding Dungey, same will play out with Fran riding McCord and ending up as a statistical outlier? Time will tell.

The shenanigan stint he pulled after the UConn game (making players run sprints) after a W, vs. what has transpired since Clemson, and imploded last night for the whole world to see leaves me in a state of...well, quoting the great Vin Scully; "I don't believe what I just saw" sentiment, but on the opposite end of that wonderment scale. :(
 
Carney play 1.75 series against PITT and had just as many completions as Filardi did in the entire game versus UNC. One is a QB and one is a LAX player. If Fran and Nixon think they are equal then that is the real issue they are terrible at evaluating the QB position and don’t know what actual translates to the field.
Yeah, but like…do we really know that Carney is significantly better? They see these guys in practice every day and put Filardi out there today. He is a football and lax player so not sure why that is relevant. Maybe they thought he had a better chance of having everything somehow click than Carney.

I just think it is naive to think the reason they are sitting Carney is spite, ego, or intentional sabotage. The simplest explanation is probably closest to the truth- they really dont like what they see from Carney in practice.
 
For sure. I'm not sure how anyone (at least at this stage) can't see this being a legitimate truth, and him rolling as a 'style over substance' figure. I mean, it's not as if he has a track record of success as a HC, last year was his first ever in that position. And, perhaps just as Dino's 10 win season and riding Dungey, same will play out with Fran riding McCord and ending up as a statistical outlier? Time will tell.

The shenanigan stint he pulled after the UConn game (making players run sprints) after a W, vs. what has transpired since Clemson, and imploded last night for the whole world to see leaves me in a state of...well, quoting the great Vin Scully; "I don't believe what I just saw" sentiment, but on the opposite end of that wonderment scale. :(
Well this season is going to be 3-9 or 4-8 and there’s no outrunning that bullet. So if they want to use the time to experiment or whatever that’s up to them. I’d rather have just seen Carney for the remainder of the season consistently after 2-3 Rickie starts but I’m in whatever phase at this point.

Fran needs to follow up next season similar to his year 1. Not necessarily 10 wins, but a competitive bowl caliber team. If next season turns out anything like this one, I don’t think he survives beyond it. Because you’re right - he then looks like a one-hit wonder where everything came together - weak schedule, McCord, etc.
 
But it is not our fault as fans that behind Angeli that the quarterback room is terrible. It is the coaches responsibility and that is why they coach and get paid to coach. I don’t believe all this rhetoric about it being hard to have a “decent serviceable” backup quarterback. Many teams go through the same thing we have this year and their season hasn’t become a debacle. One example look at Texas Tech…
You are correct, it is the coach's fault that we don't have better back ups!!!! what I disagree with is all the fans questioning why we stuck with Collins, and that we must have some better QB's on the roster...when Coach Fran was telling us Collins unfortunately, was the best of the bunch.
 

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