Class of 2020 C Eddie Lampkin (TX) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (4/2/24)

[Day2]

I’ve had him on ignore for a long time

Why? He played college ball and - like it or not - his preseason assessments have been spot on for several years running.

 

[capeorange]

actually no

It was a joke. The names were there in black and white.

I apologize if you were offended. And I appreciate the information.

 

[CuseAce3]

Eddie just retweeted a post on his twitter that has the words syracuse signee! It wont allow me to post a screen shot from my phone here for some reason

 

[CuseAce3]

 

[CA Monk]

Our long national nightmare is over.

 

[Sherman20]

Very solid D based portal class? Carlos isnt a good defender at all and Lampkin had one more blocked shot than Joe Girard did last season. Put them together with the worst defensive tandem JJ and Bell and its a disaster. This defense is putrid and thats saying it mildly.

Lampkin isn’t going to be a great shot blocker at Syracuse but he’ll get more than he did at Colorado. I don’t think CU coach Tad Boyle values blocked shots on defense like JB did and Red does. Some coaches don’t. It can put you out of position for rebounds. I’m sure our coaches will want Eddie to try and block more shots than he did at Colorado and he’ll be able to do that. At TCU, he only averaged like 20mpg and had like three times the amount of blocks than he did at Colorado. I don’t think he’s going to be great in that area, but he’ll be more effective than he was at Colorado. Also good defense is about much more than blocked shots.

 

[two3zone]

I don’t think Lampkin is going to be a great shot blocker at Syracuse but he’ll get more than he did at Colorado. I don’t think CU coach Tad Boyle values blocked shots on defense like JB did and Red does. Some coaches don’t. It can put you out of position for rebounds. I’m sure our coaches will want Eddie to try and block more shots than he did at Colorado and he’ll be able to do that. At TCU, he only averaged like 20mpg and had like three times the amount of blocks than he did at Colorado. I don’t think he’s going to be great in that area, but he’ll be more effective than he was at Colorado. Also good defense is about much more than blocked shots.

Everything you said is fair. Also agree that good defense is more than blocked shots. Hopefully dude is ready to go.

 

[UpstateSM]

Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening when you watch Lampkin attempt to defend the PNR. It's going to be a huge issue with him like it is with McLeod. Staff is going to have to get creative schematically.

 

[two3zone]

Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening when you watch Lampkin attempt to defend the PNR. It's going to be a huge issue with him like it is with McLeod. Staff is going to have to get creative schematically.

Freeman needs to play stellar help defense. I hope it doesn't land him with too many fouls. A lot is on Freeman's shoulders this year.

 

[Sherman20]

Everything you said is fair. Also agree that good defense is more than blocked shots. Hopefully dude is ready to go.

I’m legitimately worried about his defense as well. But I gotta think he’ll be improved. Our coaches have always emphasized blocked shots and rim protection. I’d really love to see us land Waterman or Boakye as the backup.

And I know you and lots of others think McLeod is a big ol stiff, and I don’t disagree. But I do think that his injury started before he shut it down and it slowed his development. I just want to see him to get healthy and back in shape, develop his motor and run the floor, block shots and rebound. If he can do that, he could become a defensive stopper when we can’t rely on Lampkin.

 

[walsh2012]

Shut up about taxes, my god

Lampkin just liked and commented twice saying he's pumped on an IG post about his workouts calling him an SU signee and w a pic of him in an SU jersey.

He back

His @ is liledball

 

[Digger]

I'm on a Hill Society Zoom right now with ADJW and Red. Red confirmed that Eddie is in the fold. JW said Red did a great job this weekend working with Eddie's Mom. They expect to have him on campus next week, but they also admit that a team theoretically could tamper and there is no binding contract they can sign. JW said an SEC team was trying to poach Lampkin but unfortunately doing so is legal.

Wanted to like this post, but didn’t want to mess this up

 

[Orangezoo]

I’m legitimately worried about his defense as well. But I gotta think he’ll be improved. Our coaches have always emphasized blocked shots and rim protection. I’d really love to see us land Waterman or Boakye as the backup.

And I know you and lots of others think McLeod is a big ol stiff, and I don’t disagree. But I do think that his injury started before he shut it down and slowed his development. I just want to see him get healthy and back in shape, develop his motor and run the floor, block shots and rebound. If he can do that, he could become a defensive stopper when we can’t rely on Lampkin.

This will fall on Red to sort this out then. Can we be better on switches and have good help D on any mismatch?

Also have to remember that attacking the opponent in the post to offset this concern is going to be key too. Would be great if Eddie worked on his foot speed too this summer .

 

[GHLF]

The incoming freshmen weren’t signed this offseason.

The portal transfers are ranked:
Lampkin 196
Davis 128
Carlos 256

What “ballpark” is this? Basement Nerf tee ball?

Haters just gonna hate no matter what. Guess we will have to wait and see

 

[Red2003]

The incoming freshmen weren’t signed this offseason.

The portal transfers are ranked:
Lampkin 196
Davis 128
Carlos 256

What “ballpark” is this? Basement Nerf tee ball?

there’s so much wrong with those rankings but yes they are the #’s for on3.

Eddie is the #15 Center. Guess On3 doesn’t think there’s many good centers out there in the portal if that = 196. 9 centers above him are frosh or Soph with very little experience. Another handful are 7 foot 210-220 pound guys, stick figures. That leaves maybe 3-4 better centers that were in the portal. This is why he got paid and paid again.

Davis and Carlos are not coming here to start, the 1-3 are going to be ran by committee. I think we all wish we had one more superstar from the portal but that’s not in the cards. So let’s see what happens.

 

[Red2003]

Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening when you watch Lampkin attempt to defend the PNR. It's going to be a huge issue with him like it is with McLeod. Staff is going to have to get creative schematically.

Show me the teams in the acc that are going to run this amazing PNR you think they are. In case people haven’t been keeping track every good center in the ACC is gone. Bacot, Flip, Burns, Hall, Post the list goes on. They played there 4-5 years or are going to the league. Sure teams are reloading but not with better portal centers and good luck to the Freshman coming in against him.

Eddie is going to be the most experienced 5 in the ACC. Also in case people forgot we went all last season with a 20 year old power forward with no backup battling 24 year olds.

Show me the ACC Center that is going to come in and own Eddie in league play.

 

[Red2003]

Freeman needs to play stellar help defense. I hope it doesn't land him with too many fouls. A lot is on Freeman's shoulders this year.

First thing in awhile I’ve agree with on your posts. Freeman just needs to have a huge year for us. There were flaws on defense last year for sure but there’s a lot of fresh blood coming in.

Add another puzzle piece or 2 and it feels like we’re going to have a real camp. Experienced guys coming in, top High School talent, and guys hopefully rebounding from injury. Somewhere in there has got to be a solid back court combination that can hoop on both ends.

 

[baggerbob]

First thing in awhile I’ve agree with on your posts. Freeman just needs to have a huge year for us. There were flaws on defense last year for sure but there’s a lot of fresh blood coming in.

Add another puzzle piece or 2 and it feels like we’re going to have a real camp. Experienced guys coming in, top High School talent, and guys hopefully rebounding from injury. Somewhere in there has got to be a solid back court combination that can hoop on both ends.

Not having a player pounding the ball onto the floor everytime we come down floor will help.
Go back and watch The Sue Bird, Loyd and Stewie teams. A lot of fast breaks the ball never touches the floor.
That's what Red is looking for crisp passes move the ball upcourt faster.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

there’s so much wrong with those rankings but yes they are the #’s for on3.

Eddie is the #15 Center. Guess On3 doesn’t think there’s many good centers out there in the portal if that = 196. 9 centers above him are frosh or Soph with very little experience. Another handful are 7 foot 210-220 pound guys, stick figures. That leaves maybe 3-4 better centers that were in the portal. This is why he got paid and paid again.

Davis and Carlos are not coming here to start, the 1-3 are going to be ran by committee. I think we all wish we had one more superstar from the portal but that’s not in the cards. So let’s see what happens.

I’m not debating any of that. I think we got some good players, at positions of need. I just cringe when someone says we “knocked it out of the park” with that set of transfers. It’s just a ludikris bit of hyperbole.

I wonder what the level of hype would be if any of our guys were in the top 50.

 

[billsin01]

I’m not debating any of that. I think we got some good players, at positions of need. I just cringe when someone says we “knocked it out of the park” with that set of transfers. It’s just a ludikris bit of hyperbole.

I wonder what the level of hype would be if any of our guys were in the top 50.

We didn’t knock anything out of the park. Not saying we got bad players but whether we got better or worse is purely subjective at this point. People didn’t like Judah — or at least big parts of his game (though it feels like there’s a lot of the former). People seem obsessed with Brown struggling in the post against bigger centers late in the season. People feel Copeland was a major problem off the court/in the locker room.

There are elements of truth there. But at this point, I have major concerns about how he holds up defensively and I struggle to believe he is Onuaku pt. 2 offensively. Carlos and Davis should contribute, but at what level, it’s hard to say.

there is a lot that goes into being a good basketball team so it’s best to wait and see … but I have a really hard time believing the talent we brought in even matches the talent that went out. If someone is suggesting we hit a home run they have to know something I don’t about the transfers, freeman/moore, Westry’s health, and/or englestad. Otherwise, just by judging individual pieces, it’s really hard to believe we got better.

 

[walsh2012]

there’s so much wrong with those rankings but yes they are the #’s for on3.

Eddie is the #15 Center. Guess On3 doesn’t think there’s many good centers out there in the portal if that = 196. 9 centers above him are frosh or Soph with very little experience. Another handful are 7 foot 210-220 pound guys, stick figures. That leaves maybe 3-4 better centers that were in the portal. This is why he got paid and paid again.

Davis and Carlos are not coming here to start, the 1-3 are going to be ran by committee. I think we all wish we had one more superstar from the portal but that’s not in the cards. So let’s see what happens.

The portal rankings weigh years of eligibility heavily - a soph is more valuable than a SR to them.

Most of the guys making the rankings got cut from JV

 

[Zelda Zonk]

The portal rankings weigh years of eligibility heavily - a soph is more valuable than a SR to them.

Most of the guys making the rankings got cut from JV

I don’t put a ton of credence into the rankings I cited. But, when I was posting, I googled lists, chose the first three that I recognized, and the first two didn’t even have numbers. They only went up to 100, and we didn’t have anyone on either top 100 list. The third one did have numbers, and was one commonly referenced on this forum, so that was that.

Either way—it’s a tough task to rank players like that. But, still—those numbers do mean something. And if it were the other way around, the people who are now saying the numbers mean this or that or don’t mean this or that would be crowing about them if we did have a highly-regarded guy. Like they do with “#6” Freeman.

But, whatever. I was merely refuting an assertion. Optimism is great. Delusion and misrepresentation are not so great. I’ve been positive about Lampkin, and even posited defensive arguments about his potential defense. I’m the one who found and cited Carlos’ cluster of insanely high scoring HS games. Davis is from my hometown and played his Hs games walking distance from where I grew up. I have high hopes for each of them and think they all fit needs. But the realistic/practical side worries that we needed to make bigger impacts. No one knows what will result and I still think we’ll be good enough for a bid, but it’s like we are still just working on getting to the fringe, and that’s just too close for comfort. “The mind wobbles” when people say that we’re ’crushing it’ and the like.

 

[Irt4su]

I'm on a Hill Society Zoom right now with ADJW and Red. Red confirmed that Eddie is in the fold. JW said Red did a great job this weekend working with Eddie's Mom. They expect to have him on campus next week, but they also admit that a team theoretically could tamper and there is no binding contract they can sign. JW said an SEC team was trying to poach Lampkin but unfortunately doing so is legal.

Seems the lead is being buried. Red did a great job with Eddie’s mom…..reminds me of Forrest Gump for some reason.

 

[kcsu]

If Chance and McLeod are each 100% we should be improved. League play will remain difficult but not significantly more than last year.
I hope Patterson returns as we do need a third center.
My starting 5 would be as follows.
Lampkin
Freeman
Bell
JJ
Chance

Bench
McLeod
Carlos
Transfer
Frosh
Cuffe .
Lots of kids that can play multiple positions. Teams weakness is still outside shooting and of course the D has to improve which I believe it will.
Lampkin is a huge upgrade over Brown who did a solid job playing out of position but was eaten alive when we went up against physical teams.

Freeman should be a huge upgrade over Benny.

Bell will be improved
JJ as well.
I'm very high on Carlos. I think he is going to really surprise a lot of the skeptics here.
Moore is a sniper which will help.
McLeod is an excellent back up 5 and I thought he played well before he was injured.
All in all I think we make the dance IF Chance is 100% as if he's healthy he is really good.

 

[dasher]

I hear that Lampkin is in great shape.