Class of 2023 C Owen Freeman (IL) Portal from Creighton

[IthacaMatt]

Why does every thread turn into a complain fest about Dual? Let’s focus here.

He's a very good player. I'm just not confident of him being our starting PG, and Moesch being the primary ball handling back up. I think we need a more offensive PG.

I recognize Dual's defense is great, and his ball security is excellent. I recognize that. But I just don't see enough offense in this lineup to scare anybody, and I think a lot of people on the board feel the same.

We have a bunch of guys at the 2/3 already - Anthony, Doty, Muhtinovic and Tobiason - that's a promising bunch, but not a proven one. We don't have a proven scorer at Center or PF. I think we need more offense.

 

[Cusefan69]

Maybe the real Owen Freeman portal recruitment was the most miserable people we've ever encountered along the way.

 

[721Comstock]

Because it's the most important thing a PG does, aside from create shots for his teammates, is the ability to close out the game.

We saw Boeheim win 80 or 90% of his close games. We saw Autry lose most of them.

Late game management - which determines wins and losses - requires a PG who doesn't get tight at the foul line at the end of a close game.

Lessee…

Sherm Douglas - < 70% FT’s career.
Pearl - < 73% career.
Hart - 71% career.
Red - < 75% career.
Scoop - < 69% career.

That’s FIVE of the Top Six ALL TIME ASSISTS LEADERS for Cuse.

They all won a metric FFF-ton of games.

While being “meh” from the FT line.

In fact, GMac was the only 1 of those top 6 who was a superior FT shooter.

So, methinks there’s more to being a great PG,
than hitting FT’s at an elite clip.

 

[sufan59]

I’ll give a little update right now, will give a lot more analysis if I remember too when the portal adds are over, but this portal cycle is going better so far than last year per Evan Miya. This includes total BPR (does not include incoming freshmen) for the previous year of returning and transferred in players going into the next season:

Syracuse 2025-2026 total BPR in 2024-2025: 11.4

Syracuse 2026-2027 total BPR in 2025-2026 (still can go up and down with remaining adds): 12.17. I’ll play a little game

If we add Owen Freeman: it goes up to 16.21

If we add Francis Folefac and Owen Freeman: it goes up to 18.24

If we add Jalen Cox and Francis Folefac and Owen Freeman: it goes up to 22.09


Unless we literally have negative BPR adds, we have already upgraded the roster slightly and can probably upgrade even more with some positive adds.

Take a look at Syracuse 2024-2025 total BPR in 2023-2024: 9.85

We most likely have upgraded already and counting going into next season per Evan Miya. Hopefully I didn’t mess up any calculation here.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Let's talk about the other side of the coin, going backwards in time.

In 2016, we won 23 games, and Cooney shot over 80% from the line. He had the ball at the end of games more than Gbinije

In 2014, we won 28 games, and Ennis shot 77% from the line.

In 2012, Scoop might not have been great at the line, but Brandon Triche shot more attempts than Scoop, made 78% and we won 34 games.

In 2011, yes, Scoop was not good, but Triche made 84% and Dion made 81%.
In 2010, Scoop was scoopin', but Andy Rautins hit over 81%.

You have to have guys who can close out games.

 

[SuFTW]

So now you’re gonna lie. I not once have called out people that know things. Don’t say I do things when it’s not true.

Less than 40 minutes before you made the above claim you posted this.

They just make stuff up.

 

[SUtoga]

I’ll give a little update right now, will give a lot more analysis if I remember too when the portal adds are over, but this portal cycle is going better so far than last year per Evan Miya. This includes total BPR (does not include incoming freshmen) for the previous year of returning and transferred in players going into the next season:

Syracuse 2025-2026 total BPR in 2024-2025: 11.4

Syracuse 2026-2027 total BPR in 2025-2026 (still can go up and down with remaining adds): 12.17. I’ll play a little game

If we add Owen Freeman: it goes up to 16.21

If we add Francis Folefac and Owen Freeman: it goes up to 18.24

If we add Jalen Cox and Francis Folefac and Owen Freeman: it goes up to 22.09


Unless we literally have negative BPR adds, we have already upgraded the roster slightly and can probably upgrade even more with some positive adds.

Take a look at Syracuse 2024-2025 total BPR in 2023-2024: 9.85

We most likely have upgraded already and counting going into next season per Evan Miya. Hopefully I didn’t mess up any calculation here.

That’s really cool data, i wonder what he predicts for Sadiq and Kiyan next year?

 

[IthacaMatt]

I’ll give a little update right now, will give a lot more analysis if I remember too when the portal adds are over, but this portal cycle is going better so far than last year per Evan Miya. This includes total BPR (does not include incoming freshmen) for the previous year of returning and transferred in players going into the next season:

Syracuse 2025-2026 total BPR in 2024-2025: 11.4

Syracuse 2026-2027 total BPR in 2025-2026 (still can go up and down with remaining adds): 12.17. I’ll play a little game

If we add Owen Freeman: it goes up to 16.21

If we add Francis Folefac and Owen Freeman: it goes up to 18.24

If we add Jalen Cox and Francis Folefac and Owen Freeman: it goes up to 22.09


Unless we literally have negative BPR adds, we have already upgraded the roster slightly and can probably upgrade even more with some positive adds.

Take a look at Syracuse 2024-2025 total BPR in 2023-2024: 9.85

We most likely have upgraded already and counting going into next season per Evan Miya. Hopefully I didn’t mess up any calculation here.

Thanks for doing this.

From my perspective, I think we have added more "middle and end of the rotation" talent that is clearly better than the last couple years.

This group is strong on competency, and is fairly balanced.

To me, we are a few players short. Jalen Cox does look like a nice fit, even if he's not a star. He is a junior, and has a lot of shooting and play making ability.

Of course, Mingo would be a home run, but Cox is a clear 2-base hit to balance out Dual a bit. 36% from three and 85% from the line. Those are good numbers. He's 6-3, so that's solid.

If we could close with those 3 guys (Freeman, Folefac and Cox), this would look like a pretty good roster. Very blue collar, not any big stars. But a pretty solid team.

 

[sufan59]

That’s really cool data, i wonder what he predicts for Sadiq and Kiyan next year?

Yeah I don’t pay for the premium lol, but I think he does have a projections tool. This was more so to point out the production that is returning and being brought in collectively from the prior 2 seasons.

 

[Sherman20]

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I don’t have exact numbers, but I seriously doubt we are spending at $20.5 million that is the rev share cap.

The 20.5 million is for all sports, and the majority goes to football. Maybe $4-4.5 million will go to basketball. The rest of the roster money needs to come from NIL, and we still don’t have a working basketball collective right now.

 

[orangepassion]

I don’t understand this comment at all. What did you want them to do?

Eat more chicken