I’m not disagreeing with you at all. I’m jaded by years of the football team being under funded and being told player x with 2 stars is a diamond every other p4 team missed to only see the undersized kid get pushed around. This class to me seems to fit the under funded football teams that lost for 20 years. Su couldn’t land the top coaches and then sold us on not being culture fits. They sold us on gmac needing a fork lift to move the money he is bringing. Outside looking in we don’t have the money and we aren’t selling the players. If I’m wrong I’ll admit it but this is a fan page and to crap on anyone that doesn’t toe the line is crazy.
sold us? What big time coach would want to come here? This isnt Syracuse from 20 years ago. College athletics have changed dramatically and the brand isnt the same and people just need to accept that.
But why do you want that player. Sure we need talent but culture and work ethic matter not just how much you have to spend. Also coaching. So many chicken little posters on this site. I like coming on the forum but it’s getting to the point that it’s 80% negative.
We probably won’t ever be what we were that’s a reasonable bet. We do have to start somewhere to try. Which means you have to do it with a combination of things to go with good money. It’s not a money ball approach but it’s also not a super team approach either. You put together 12 - 15 guys who want to be here even if it’s for a check, a deep staff that has a history of developing players, a staff committed to the details and work to game plan and prepare extensively and look to find that groove where the right combination works and proves your concept. If you can do that your ceiling as a program gets a lot higher.
I hope you aren't saying that I crapped on your opinion because I didn't. I disagree with it. Money is always going to be an issue but we have money to compete this year. We are not at the top of the heap and anyone that said that would have been wrong. As wrong as the people that think we are one of the sisters of the poor. Wrong on both counts. A lot of money came in with Gerry. More than we could probably of had with any other choice. And if you don't remember, Gerry wasn't my first choice. But I will give the devil his due. no other coach that we were considering would have raised the money that Gerry has. We have spent a great deal of money to get the guys that we have got. I have heard what we have offered Freeman. It would make Omaha sick.
Earlier in the portal, I totally agreed with our decision to not overpay for mediocre bigs--paying $3 million for a totally average big is dumb and would be a repeat of when we blew our whole budget on Lampkin. Now that the portal is almost closed and most of the top talent is off the board, I think it's very fair to question whether Gerry can close/whether we have enough NIL money. Unless Siby is ready to start and play major minutes, we have a huge hole up front and would be essentially punting the season if we don't add more size. I'm a big fan of Doty, Tobiason and Dual (and the euros too, though idk much about them), but if our most proven big is Goodrick, it'll reframe our whole approach to the portal and make it look like that we were dumpster diving for scraps rather than being savvy with our resource allocation
Just to clear no one wanted to leave the Big East but also the Big East will be a dead conference in less than 5 years. The minute Uconn decides to leave and Pitino is done it will collapse. It's a 3 bid league over 2 of the last 3 seasons and there is nothing left for these schools. They will be at best a decent midmajor.
Once again, we should wait before we push the panic button. We don't know what we don't know.
Wasn't arguing that was smart policy, just that recruiting is different these days. Not sure the fit matters as much as it used to, if colleges are overpaying.
Guys are still entering the portal and there is still talent available. We were never going to get a top 5-10 big guy. The guy from App State looks promising and we are a player there. We also have seemingly built in roads with European guys, which is another option. We are not done yet, there is still time.
Yes. We would have been crazy not to leave and going to the ACC saved us. We could forget about havinga football program if we had refused the offer. And if we didn't have football, well, the consequences would have been horrible. Yeah, we miss the Big East for hoop but even that, look at who is in the league now. It isn't the same league we left.
Just to play devils advocate, if we're offering a lot of money for Freeman and lose him to Auburn, wouldn't that mean that Gerry can't close? Auburn has an even less proven head coach than we do; it's not like they're a blue blood. Money being equal, we should be the better destination. If we're offering Freeman a lot of money and Gerry can't beat out Bruce Pearl's idiot kid, that doesn't reflect too well on the program's standing
well i am talking about the last 13 years where the BE has multiple hoops nattys. Any these ACC teams playing in the football natty doesnt really mean jack for us as we havent even sniffed it so Im not sure how that helps us aside from extra cash.
Agree about the App State guy and screw Freeman. A lot less money and think AO could do wonders with App State guy. Freeman to me is looking for a hefty paycheck.
Not neccessarily. I didn't say we were paying more than Auburn was. I don't know that. I only know what I was told we offered. Maybe Auburn offered a great deal more. Or maybe Freeman doesn't like snow. Texas Tech alledgedly offered more to Aiden than we did. Did Gerry close with him?
Screw Freeman and move on.
you struggle with the word possibilitie.
UConn has had a historic 4 year bball run and the athletic department still runs a $50+ million deficit every year because basketball money pales in comparison to football money. And unlike UConn which gets money from the state, Syracuse is private, so a deficit that big would have huge ramifications for the rest of the school.
except i didn't post that.
im not saying we should have stayed in the BE im just pointing out that the ACC move has been awful
